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User talk:MoogleDan

2013-10-17T19:39:47Z

Feedmeacat: /* Upgrades! */

== Upgrades! ==
Hi Dan,

I plan on starting the process of updating the wiki to the current trunk (0.14ish as of this writing). I don't know how to make the wiki understand that .14 is not a future version. Can you convince it for me? [[User:Feedmeacat|Feedmeacat]] Oct 4 2013

:NO, no, don't do that! The game's kind of awkward in that it has official releases, beta versions that will soon be official, and trunk, which contains stuff that may or may not be official ever. We keep pages at the official release version only (a lot of the players who use the wiki are those who play offline, and 0.12 is still the most recent thing a lot of them have played), and use the History section of pages to include both stuff that once was and stuff that soon will be. PLEASE don't just start dumping everything from History into the main pages! We'll be doing that up to 0.13 once it's out of beta, but I don't believe that's happening just yet. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan|talk]]) 23:03, 5 October 2013 (CEST)

::Okay! It seems that 0.13 has come out of beta. Are we clear to go on those updates? (By the way, after I posted here and before I saw your response, I had a rather long and involved and excessively in-depth conversation about what exactly stable vs beta vs trunk meant with the crawl dev IRC, and I felt silly about posting this here, and then classes started and I forgot this existed for a couple weeks... so we've come full circle. Sorry to alarm you) --[[User:Feedmeacat|Feedmeacat]] ([[User talk:Feedmeacat|talk]]) 21:39, 17 October 2013 (CEST)

== Bwijn ==

Hi Dan, plz have a look on [[Potion of experience]] and find out why File:SampleScreenForPotionOfExperience.jpg that I just uploaded won't appear. -- [[User:Bwijn|Bwijn]] 15:35, 21 February 2013 (CET)
:The image is showing up on my screen, but as a thumbnail. The image link you're using includes, "|thumb=SampleScreenForPotionOfExperience-thumbnail.jpg"; if you remove that, it should show up at full size.
--[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 15:41, 21 February 2013 (CET)
::Oops, I forgot about emptying the page cache. - Do you know crawl wiki image parameters to increase the size of the SampleScreenPic without blowing it up to full size? It should be readable. It's too tiny now. -- [[User:Bwijn|Bwijn]] 16:27, 21 February 2013 (CET)
:::I'm honestly pretty clueless about that sort of thing : / I'd suggest looking for another page that does a similar thing and stealing the code from that, or possibly asking CommanderC. He's got a much better grasp of the technical stuff than I do. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 16:34, 21 February 2013 (CET)

== Deleting Pages ==

Hey Dan,
I was wondering how to delete pages. I recently merged the [[Breathe Frost]] (and other elements) pages into [[Draconian breath attacks]], and removed all text on the old pages, thinking that would delete them. Apparently, it didn't :P
PS. I looked for it in the help section, but the page (like many other help pages) doesn't seem to exist. Are all those pages planned? I'd be fine with writing some of them --[[User:Lokkij|Lokkij]] 21:43, 8 April 2013 (CEST)
: Only admins can permanently delete pages. If you want a page to be deleted, you can put [[Template:Delete]] on the page to mark it for deletion. MoogleDan or one of the other admins will then delete it when they come around. Often, however, pages that are merged and candidates for deletion are good candidates for redirects. For example [[Breathe Frost]] would be a good candidate for being redirected to [[Draconian breath attacks]].
:As for the help sections, they are somewhere on the new or old wiki but they haven't been updated in a while. You can definitely work on those pages if you like! --[[User:Flun|Flun]] 21:49, 8 April 2013 (CEST)
::To prevent people from vandalizing the place ''too'' badly, we restrict deletion rights to the site admins. If you'd like to suggest the deletion of a page, just put a { {delete} } on the page (without the extra spaces) and we'll look into taking it down. One recommendation I have for this situation is that, instead of deleting the pages, we make them into redirects. That way, someone looking for an ability under its actual name won't find a dead end. We do delete things occasionally, but redirects are almost always the best approach.
::As for the page you made, that looks like a good start, and much more useful than the pretty blatantly incorrect stub pages you're replacing :P I'd suggest adding the flavour text and tile icon next to each one, and damage details would be useful, but aside from that it's a solid arrangement. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 21:53, 8 April 2013 (CEST)

== Regarding new images ==

So I was looking at the recent changes log, and noticed you did a thing where you uploaded the new image for [[royal jelly]] (under a different file name from the current one), deleted the old image, then moved the new image to the old file name. You do know you can just hit the "upload a new version of this file" option to take care of that in one step, right?

Plus, doing that leaves the old image in the image's history, which is handy for people like me who like adding to the [[Retired Artwork]] page. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 00:02, 2 September 2013 (CEST)

:Don't worry; if it had been a REAL old image, I would have done the Retired Artwork page step myself! I just did that when I realized that our royal jelly item image was pulling a dupe of the TRJ monster image. Nothing was actually lost. As for the multi-step process involved, I actually haven't fiddled with those tools too much; I'll give 'em a go once 0.13 lands and we have a mountain of artwork to move about. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan|talk]]) 05:37, 3 September 2013 (CEST)

== online comments ==
Sorry I haven't responded to your comments while online -- I tend to concentrate on the game, and I don't generally notice the little green text in the corner saying I have new messages. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 04:29, 14 October 2013 (CEST)
: It's perfectly fine, no harm done. Sorry for vanishing last night! My internet connection went spotty and I had to crash anyway. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan|talk]]) 13:50, 14 October 2013 (CEST)

User:Feedmeacat

2013-10-04T21:02:28Z

Feedmeacat: Created page with "== What == I've decided that knitting lace is not masochistic enough, and I'm starting the process of getting everything up to date with 0.14. Anyone with a taste for punish..."

== What ==

I've decided that knitting lace is not masochistic enough, and I'm starting the process of getting everything up to date with 0.14. Anyone with a taste for punishment should join me.

User talk:MoogleDan

2013-10-04T21:01:48Z

Feedmeacat: /* Upgrades! */

== Upgrades! ==
Hi Dan,

I plan on starting the process of updating the wiki to the current trunk (0.14ish as of this writing). I don't know how to make the wiki understand that .14 is not a future version. Can you convince it for me? [[User:Feedmeacat|Feedmeacat]] Oct 4 2013

== Bwijn ==

Hi Dan, plz have a look on [[Potion of experience]] and find out why File:SampleScreenForPotionOfExperience.jpg that I just uploaded won't appear. -- [[User:Bwijn|Bwijn]] 15:35, 21 February 2013 (CET)
:The image is showing up on my screen, but as a thumbnail. The image link you're using includes, "|thumb=SampleScreenForPotionOfExperience-thumbnail.jpg"; if you remove that, it should show up at full size.
--[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 15:41, 21 February 2013 (CET)
::Oops, I forgot about emptying the page cache. - Do you know crawl wiki image parameters to increase the size of the SampleScreenPic without blowing it up to full size? It should be readable. It's too tiny now. -- [[User:Bwijn|Bwijn]] 16:27, 21 February 2013 (CET)
:::I'm honestly pretty clueless about that sort of thing : / I'd suggest looking for another page that does a similar thing and stealing the code from that, or possibly asking CommanderC. He's got a much better grasp of the technical stuff than I do. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 16:34, 21 February 2013 (CET)

== Deleting Pages ==

Hey Dan,
I was wondering how to delete pages. I recently merged the [[Breathe Frost]] (and other elements) pages into [[Draconian breath attacks]], and removed all text on the old pages, thinking that would delete them. Apparently, it didn't :P
PS. I looked for it in the help section, but the page (like many other help pages) doesn't seem to exist. Are all those pages planned? I'd be fine with writing some of them --[[User:Lokkij|Lokkij]] 21:43, 8 April 2013 (CEST)
: Only admins can permanently delete pages. If you want a page to be deleted, you can put [[Template:Delete]] on the page to mark it for deletion. MoogleDan or one of the other admins will then delete it when they come around. Often, however, pages that are merged and candidates for deletion are good candidates for redirects. For example [[Breathe Frost]] would be a good candidate for being redirected to [[Draconian breath attacks]].
:As for the help sections, they are somewhere on the new or old wiki but they haven't been updated in a while. You can definitely work on those pages if you like! --[[User:Flun|Flun]] 21:49, 8 April 2013 (CEST)
::To prevent people from vandalizing the place ''too'' badly, we restrict deletion rights to the site admins. If you'd like to suggest the deletion of a page, just put a { {delete} } on the page (without the extra spaces) and we'll look into taking it down. One recommendation I have for this situation is that, instead of deleting the pages, we make them into redirects. That way, someone looking for an ability under its actual name won't find a dead end. We do delete things occasionally, but redirects are almost always the best approach.
::As for the page you made, that looks like a good start, and much more useful than the pretty blatantly incorrect stub pages you're replacing :P I'd suggest adding the flavour text and tile icon next to each one, and damage details would be useful, but aside from that it's a solid arrangement. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 21:53, 8 April 2013 (CEST)

== Regarding new images ==

So I was looking at the recent changes log, and noticed you did a thing where you uploaded the new image for [[royal jelly]] (under a different file name from the current one), deleted the old image, then moved the new image to the old file name. You do know you can just hit the "upload a new version of this file" option to take care of that in one step, right?

Plus, doing that leaves the old image in the image's history, which is handy for people like me who like adding to the [[Retired Artwork]] page. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 00:02, 2 September 2013 (CEST)

:Don't worry; if it had been a REAL old image, I would have done the Retired Artwork page step myself! I just did that when I realized that our royal jelly item image was pulling a dupe of the TRJ monster image. Nothing was actually lost. As for the multi-step process involved, I actually haven't fiddled with those tools too much; I'll give 'em a go once 0.13 lands and we have a mountain of artwork to move about. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan|talk]]) 05:37, 3 September 2013 (CEST)

User talk:MoogleDan

2013-10-04T21:01:24Z

Feedmeacat:

== Upgrades! ==
Hi Dan,

I plan on starting the process of updating the wiki to the current trunk (0.14ish as of this writing). I don't know how to make the wiki understand that .14 is not a future version. Can you convince it for me? [[User:Feedmeacat]] Oct 4 2013

== Bwijn ==

Hi Dan, plz have a look on [[Potion of experience]] and find out why File:SampleScreenForPotionOfExperience.jpg that I just uploaded won't appear. -- [[User:Bwijn|Bwijn]] 15:35, 21 February 2013 (CET)
:The image is showing up on my screen, but as a thumbnail. The image link you're using includes, "|thumb=SampleScreenForPotionOfExperience-thumbnail.jpg"; if you remove that, it should show up at full size.
--[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 15:41, 21 February 2013 (CET)
::Oops, I forgot about emptying the page cache. - Do you know crawl wiki image parameters to increase the size of the SampleScreenPic without blowing it up to full size? It should be readable. It's too tiny now. -- [[User:Bwijn|Bwijn]] 16:27, 21 February 2013 (CET)
:::I'm honestly pretty clueless about that sort of thing : / I'd suggest looking for another page that does a similar thing and stealing the code from that, or possibly asking CommanderC. He's got a much better grasp of the technical stuff than I do. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 16:34, 21 February 2013 (CET)

== Deleting Pages ==

Hey Dan,
I was wondering how to delete pages. I recently merged the [[Breathe Frost]] (and other elements) pages into [[Draconian breath attacks]], and removed all text on the old pages, thinking that would delete them. Apparently, it didn't :P
PS. I looked for it in the help section, but the page (like many other help pages) doesn't seem to exist. Are all those pages planned? I'd be fine with writing some of them --[[User:Lokkij|Lokkij]] 21:43, 8 April 2013 (CEST)
: Only admins can permanently delete pages. If you want a page to be deleted, you can put [[Template:Delete]] on the page to mark it for deletion. MoogleDan or one of the other admins will then delete it when they come around. Often, however, pages that are merged and candidates for deletion are good candidates for redirects. For example [[Breathe Frost]] would be a good candidate for being redirected to [[Draconian breath attacks]].
:As for the help sections, they are somewhere on the new or old wiki but they haven't been updated in a while. You can definitely work on those pages if you like! --[[User:Flun|Flun]] 21:49, 8 April 2013 (CEST)
::To prevent people from vandalizing the place ''too'' badly, we restrict deletion rights to the site admins. If you'd like to suggest the deletion of a page, just put a { {delete} } on the page (without the extra spaces) and we'll look into taking it down. One recommendation I have for this situation is that, instead of deleting the pages, we make them into redirects. That way, someone looking for an ability under its actual name won't find a dead end. We do delete things occasionally, but redirects are almost always the best approach.
::As for the page you made, that looks like a good start, and much more useful than the pretty blatantly incorrect stub pages you're replacing :P I'd suggest adding the flavour text and tile icon next to each one, and damage details would be useful, but aside from that it's a solid arrangement. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 21:53, 8 April 2013 (CEST)

== Regarding new images ==

So I was looking at the recent changes log, and noticed you did a thing where you uploaded the new image for [[royal jelly]] (under a different file name from the current one), deleted the old image, then moved the new image to the old file name. You do know you can just hit the "upload a new version of this file" option to take care of that in one step, right?

Plus, doing that leaves the old image in the image's history, which is handy for people like me who like adding to the [[Retired Artwork]] page. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 00:02, 2 September 2013 (CEST)

:Don't worry; if it had been a REAL old image, I would have done the Retired Artwork page step myself! I just did that when I realized that our royal jelly item image was pulling a dupe of the TRJ monster image. Nothing was actually lost. As for the multi-step process involved, I actually haven't fiddled with those tools too much; I'll give 'em a go once 0.13 lands and we have a mountain of artwork to move about. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan|talk]]) 05:37, 3 September 2013 (CEST)