Black Knight's barding - Revision history

Spudwalt at 00:21, 21 October 2024

2024-10-21T00:21:10Z

Patrick2011b: bump ref

2024-04-07T22:25:36Z

bump ref

Hordes: it does not always outweigh the downside of slow movement, even without a barding. e.g. you don't want to be slow next to a 2-H ogre

2024-02-16T02:34:32Z

it does not *always* outweigh the downside of slow movement, even without a barding. e.g. you don't want to be slow next to a 2-H ogre

Pisaster: art, desirability, bump

2024-02-16T00:32:09Z

art, desirability, bump

Hordes: /* Desirability */ typo

2023-08-01T02:58:51Z

‎Desirability: typo

Hordes: /* Desirability */

2023-08-01T02:58:20Z

‎Desirability

Hordes: /* Desirability */

2023-06-14T18:05:28Z

‎Desirability

Hordes: /* Desirability */

2023-06-14T18:01:29Z

‎Desirability

Hordes: update

2023-06-14T17:55:46Z

update

Hordes at 20:56, 8 July 2022

2022-07-08T20:56:25Z

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-{{version031}}
+{{version032}}
 {{flavour|A heavy barding made from pitch-black steel and inlaid with plates of black diamond. It once protected the steed of the Black Knight during their reign of terror. Those who wear it become partially undead, gaining some of the benefits without the unfortunate downsides, although the great weight of metal and stone slows the wearer somewhat.}}
-[[File:New bk barding.png]] '''''the +10 Black Knight's barding'''''
+[[File:Black knight barding.png]] '''''the +10 Black Knight's barding'''''
 +10 [[barding]]
-[[Ponderous]]ness ego<br>
+[[Ponderousness]] ego<br>
 [[Negative energy resistance|rN+]]<br>
 [[Poison resistance|rPois]]<br>

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 ==Desirability==
-The  '''Black Knight's barding'''<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|art-data.txt|1198}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances, which can outweigh the downside of slow movement.
+The '''Black Knight's barding'''<ref>{{source ref|0.31.0|art-data.txt|1199}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances, which can outweigh the downside of slow movement.
 For [[Naga]]s, it's usually a great choice, as they are already slower than usual. Going from 1.4 to 1.5 move delay isn't a big deal, since most enemies are still faster than you. It does mean that you'll take slightly more attacks when repositioning, though the AC should more than make up for that.

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 ==Desirability==
-The  '''Black Knight's barding'''<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|art-data.txt|1198}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances, which generally outweighs the downside of slow movement (and is always better than not wearing barding at all).
+The  '''Black Knight's barding'''<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|art-data.txt|1198}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances, which can outweigh the downside of slow movement.
-For [[Naga]]s, it's usually a great choice, as they are already slower than usual. Going from 1.4 to 1.5 move delay isn't a big deal in practice; most enemies are still faster than you. It does mean that you'll take slightly more attacks when repositioning, though the AC should more than make up for that.
+For [[Naga]]s, it's usually a great choice, as they are already slower than usual. Going from 1.4 to 1.5 move delay isn't a big deal, since most enemies are still faster than you. It does mean that you'll take slightly more attacks when repositioning, though the AC should more than make up for that.
 For [[Armataur]]s, it's more iffy, as they go from normal to slow movement. This makes you unable to retreat from 10-speed enemies, a significant downside. In exchange, they appreciate the extra AC, and unlike Nagas, actually benefit from rPois. Armataurs have a special advantage: they can approach enemies quickly due to their [[rampaging]]. If all else, [[Swiftness]] and/or a [[potion of haste]] will let you move faster for a short period of time.

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-{{version030}}
+{{version031}}
 {{flavour|A heavy barding made from pitch-black steel and inlaid with plates of black diamond. It once protected the steed of the Black Knight during their reign of terror. Those who wear it become partially undead, gaining some of the benefits without the unfortunate downsides, although the great weight of metal and stone slows the wearer somewhat.}}
-[[File:Black_knight_barding.png]] '''''the +10 Black Knight's barding'''''
+[[File:New bk barding.png]] '''''the +10 Black Knight's barding'''''
 +10 [[barding]]
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 ==Desirability==
-The  '''Black Knight's barding'''<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|art-data.txt|1198}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances. Whether the speed reduction is worth it depends on your species.
+The  '''Black Knight's barding'''<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|art-data.txt|1198}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances, which generally outweighs the downside of slow movement (and is always better than not wearing barding at all).
 For [[Naga]]s, it's usually a great choice, as they are already slower than usual. Going from 1.4 to 1.5 move delay isn't a big deal in practice; most enemies are still faster than you. It does mean that you'll take slightly more attacks when repositioning, though the AC should more than make up for that.

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 ==Desirability==
-The  '''Black Knight's barding''''s<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|art-data.txt|1198}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances. Whether the speed reduction is worth it depends on your species.
+The  '''Black Knight's barding'''<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|art-data.txt|1198}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances. Whether the speed reduction is worth it depends on your species.
 For [[Naga]]s, it's usually a great choice, as they are already slower than usual. Going from 1.4 to 1.5 move delay isn't a big deal in practice; most enemies are still faster than you. It does mean that you'll take slightly more attacks when repositioning, though the AC should more than make up for that.
-For [[Armataur]]s, it's more iffy, as they go from normal to slow movement. This makes you unable to retreat from 10-speed enemies, a significant downside. In exchange, Armataurs appreciate the extra AC, and unlike nagas, actually benefit from rPois. Armataurs have a special advantage: they can approach enemies quickly due to their [[rampaging]]. If all else, [[Swiftness]] and/or a [[potion of haste]] will let you move faster for a short period of time.
+For [[Armataur]]s, it's more iffy, as they go from normal to slow movement. This makes you unable to retreat from 10-speed enemies, a significant downside. In exchange, they appreciate the extra AC, and unlike Nagas, actually benefit from rPois. Armataurs have a special advantage: they can approach enemies quickly due to their [[rampaging]]. If all else, [[Swiftness]] and/or a [[potion of haste]] will let you move faster for a short period of time.
 This armour is considered [[evil]] and will offend the [[good gods]] if you wear it.

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 The  '''Black Knight's barding''''s<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|art-data.txt|1198}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances. Whether the speed reduction is worth it depends on your species.
-It is usually a great choice for [[naga]]s, who are already slower than average. Going from 1.4 to 1.5 move delay isn't a big deal in practice; most enemies are already faster than you. It does mean that you'll take slightly more attacks when repositioning, though the AC should more than make up for that.
+For [[Naga]]s, it's usually a great choice, as they are already slower than usual. Going from 1.4 to 1.5 move delay isn't a big deal in practice; most enemies are still faster than you. It does mean that you'll take slightly more attacks when repositioning, though the AC should more than make up for that.
-It is more iffy for [[armataur]]s, who go from normal movement to slow movement. Not being able to reliably run away from a regular-speed enemy is a significant downside. Armataurs have a special advantage: they can approach enemies quickly due to their [[rampaging]]. If all else, [[Swiftness]] and/or a [[potion of haste]] will let you move faster for a short period of time. Armataurs greatly appreciate the extra AC, and unlike nagas, actually benefit from rPois.
+For [[Armataur]]s, it's more iffy, as they go from normal to slow movement. This makes you unable to retreat from a regular-speed enemy, a significant downside. In exchange, Armataurs appreciate the extra AC, and unlike nagas, actually benefit from rPois. Armataurs have a special advantage: they can approach enemies quickly due to their [[rampaging]]. If all else, [[Swiftness]] and/or a [[potion of haste]] will let you move faster for a short period of time.
 This armour is considered [[evil]] and will offend the [[good gods]] if you wear it.

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-{{version028}}
+{{version030}}
 {{flavour|A heavy barding made from pitch-black steel and inlaid with plates of black diamond. It once protected the steed of the Black Knight during their reign of terror. Those who wear it become partially undead, gaining some of the benefits without the unfortunate downsides, although the great weight of metal and stone slows the wearer somewhat.}}
 [[File:Black_knight_barding.png]] '''''the +10 Black Knight's barding'''''
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 ==Desirability==
-It's your choice whether the '''Black Knight's barding''''s<ref>{{source ref|0.28.0|art-data.txt|1175}}</ref> excellent [[AC]] and useful resistances are worth the speed reduction.
+The  '''Black Knight's barding''''s<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|art-data.txt|1197}}</ref> has excellent [[AC]] and two resistances. Whether the speed reduction is worth it depends on your species.
-It's an iffy choice for [[palentonga]]s. Not being able to reliably run from regular-speed enemies is a significant downside, though one that becomes less relevant as the game progresses. [[Swiftness]] and/or a [[potion of haste]] will let you move faster than average for a time, and [[blink]]ing remains unaffected. Palentongas also have unique advantages: you can still approach enemies quickly by rolling, your aptitudes and abilities lend themselves well to fighting in the thick of things, and the Black Knight's barding provides enough physical defense to make close-quarters combat much safer.
+It is usually a great choice for [[naga]]s, who are already slower than average. Going from 1.4 to 1.5 move delay isn't a big deal in practice; most enemies are already faster than you. It does mean that you'll take slightly more attacks when repositioning, though the AC should more than make up for that.
-[[Naga]]s, meanwhile, are already slower than average and thus aren't impacted nearly as much. While they already have innate poison resistance, the AC and rN+ are still just as relevant as ever.
+It is more iffy for [[armataur]]s, who go from normal movement to slow movement. Not being able to reliably run away from a regular-speed enemy is a significant downside. Armataurs have a special advantage: they can approach enemies quickly due to their [[rampaging]]. If all else, [[Swiftness]] and/or a [[potion of haste]] will let you move faster for a short period of time. Armataurs greatly appreciate the extra AC, and unlike nagas, actually benefit from rPois.
 This armour is considered [[evil]] and will offend the [[good gods]] if you wear it.
 ==History==
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 *Prior to [[0.15]], the Black Knight's horse barding also offered a significant delay to your metabolism, requiring you to eat less often.
 *The Black Knight's horse barding was added in [[0.10]].
 [[Category:Unrands]]
 [[Category:Barding]]

Black Knight's barding - Revision history

Spudwalt at 00:21, 21 October 2024

Patrick2011b: bump ref

Hordes: it does not *always* outweigh the downside of slow movement, even without a barding. e.g. you don't want to be slow next to a 2-H ogre

Pisaster: art, desirability, bump

Hordes: /* Desirability */ typo

Hordes: /* Desirability */

Hordes: /* Desirability */

Hordes: /* Desirability */

Hordes: update

Hordes at 20:56, 8 July 2022

Hordes: it does not always outweigh the downside of slow movement, even without a barding. e.g. you don't want to be slow next to a 2-H ogre