Blade talisman - Revision history

Qqqqwe2: 0.34 overhaul (needs new references and expanding)

2026-03-17T15:59:22Z

0.34 overhaul (needs new references and expanding)

Patrick2011b: the initial AC penalty is -100% in stable

2025-04-18T18:18:07Z

the initial AC penalty is -100% in stable

Ge0ff: /* History */ cba 44653be0

2025-04-18T13:45:31Z

‎History: cba 44653be0

Spudwalt at 06:26, 27 October 2024

2024-10-27T06:26:27Z

Hordes: /* Useful Info */ slight clarify

2024-02-05T15:51:54Z

‎Useful Info: slight clarify

Hordes: /* Useful Info */ it's rounded down, i think

2024-02-05T15:51:20Z

‎Useful Info: it's rounded down, i think

Qqqqwe2 at 17:18, 30 January 2024

2024-01-30T17:18:39Z

Hordes: image, src

2024-01-15T12:12:34Z

image, src

Patrick2011b: -trunk

2024-01-14T20:23:03Z

-trunk

Hordes: more accurate format for displaying skill scaling. also fix max damage

2023-11-11T06:09:50Z

more accurate format for displaying skill scaling. also fix max damage

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-{{version032}}
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 ''For the spell present in [[0.30]], see [[Blade Hands (spell)]].''
-{{flavour|Causes long, needle-thin blades to grow from the user's hands and smaller fragments of metal to grow inside their body, deforming them and reducing the effectiveness of body armour. Shapeshifting skill mitigates and eventually eliminates the latter effect, as well as increasing damage dealt.
+{{flavour|A jagged cluster of blades, almost impossible to grasp without injury. Causes long, needle-thin blades to grow from the wearer's body, allowing them to perform rapid auxiliary melee attacks and even parry blows. Having so many fragments of metal inside one's body reduces the effectiveness of body armour, but Shapeshifting skill mitigates this effect as well as increases the damage dealt.}}
 [[File:blade talisman.png]] A '''blade talisman''' is a [[talisman]] that gives you '''Blade Hands''', greatly increasing your damage in [[Unarmed Combat]].
 ==Useful Info==
-When e'''V'''oked, a blade talisman grants Blade Hands, which lasts until you end the form. Entering or exiting a form takes 5 turns.
+When e'''V'''oked, a blade talisman grants Blade Form, which lasts until you end the form. Entering or exiting a form takes 5 turns.
 Blade Hands has the following effects:
 '''Combat Bonuses'''
-*'''[[Unarmed Combat]]:''' Linearly scales from the following points:
+*'''[[Unarmed Combat]]:''' 3 base damage (no bonus)
-**Below minimum: 6 damage (0 skill) - 15 damage (10 skill)
+*'''Blade [[Auxiliary attack]]:''' Gain two aux attacks which have a 60% chance to attack independently with each melee attack you perform. Has a base damage of 10 (17 skill) to 16 (25 skill).
-**Above minimum: 15 damage (10 skill) - 23 damage (19 skill) ; +0.88 damage per level
+*'''[[Parrying]]:''' Gain temporary [[SH]] on turns you perform a melee attack. Scales with shapeshifting skill, from 6 SH at 17 skill to 12 SH at 25 skill.
-*Your [[auxiliary attack|off-hand punch]] gains +6 damage.
+*Reduces base [[AC]] of [[body armour]]; multiplies body armour AC by -50% to -20%
-*Reduces base [[AC]] of [[body armour]]; multiplies body armour base AC by <code>(Shapeshifting - 10) / 9</code> (min. 0), where your total AC is rounded down.<ref>{{source ref|0.32.0|transform.cc|659}}</ref> (+11.1% per level)
+**Does not impact [[enchantment]], but does impact AC gained from [[Armour skill]]. Stacks multiplicatively with [[Deformed]] / [[Pseudopods]].
 '''Restrictions'''
-*'''[[Transformation#Useful Info|Melded Gear]]:''' [[Weapon]], [[shield]], and [[gloves]]. [[Claws]] are also melded.
+*'''[[Transformation#Useful Info|Melded Gear]]:''' Blade Form melds no equipment and suppresses no mutations, unlike most other forms.
-It has a minimum [[Shapeshifting]] skill of 10, below which you get an [[Talisman#Skill|HP penalty]], and Unarmed damage scales down. It has a maximum skill of 19, where skill has no further impact.
+It has a minimum [[Shapeshifting]] skill of 17, below which you get an [[Talisman#Skill|HP penalty]], your armor is reduced further and your blade auxes do less damage. It has a maximum skill of 25, where skill has no further impact.
 ==Strategy==
-Blade Form is essentially [[hand|two-handed]] Unarmed Combat. Even at 0 Unarmed Combat skill, you'll hit as hard as an [[eveningstar]], while keeping the off-hand punch. It's certainly strong, but melds the shield slot and reduces AC (until max skill).
+Blade form benefits greatly from [[slay]]ing bonuses.
 ==History==
-{{CBA|0.33|the initial AC penalty will be reduced from -100% to -60%.}}
+*Prior to [[0.34]], Blade Form was a 12-skill form which replaced the user's hands with long needles, greatly increasing unarmed damage (and enabling stabbing) but melding weapons and the offhand slot, as well as suppressing the [[claws]] mutation.
 *Introduced in [[0.31]] in the transformation overhaul. Previously implemented as a spell, [[Blade Hands (spell)|Blade Hands]].
 :The previous spell had 22 base damage, cut [[hydra]] heads, had a spellcasting penalty, and didn't have an AC penalty. (However, since it was a spell, heavy armour made it harder to cast).

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 ==History==
-{{CBA|0.33|the initial AC penalty will be reduced from -80% to -60%.}}
+{{CBA|0.33|the initial AC penalty will be reduced from -100% to -60%.}}
 *Introduced in [[0.31]] in the transformation overhaul. Previously implemented as a spell, [[Blade Hands (spell)|Blade Hands]].
 :The previous spell had 22 base damage, cut [[hydra]] heads, had a spellcasting penalty, and didn't have an AC penalty. (However, since it was a spell, heavy armour made it harder to cast).

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 ==History==
 *Introduced in [[0.31]] in the transformation overhaul. Previously implemented as a spell, [[Blade Hands (spell)|Blade Hands]].
 :The previous spell had 22 base damage, cut [[hydra]] heads, had a spellcasting penalty, and didn't have an AC penalty. (However, since it was a spell, heavy armour made it harder to cast).

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 ''For the spell present in [[0.30]], see [[Blade Hands (spell)]].''
 {{flavour|Causes long, needle-thin blades to grow from the user's hands and smaller fragments of metal to grow inside their body, deforming them and reducing the effectiveness of body armour. Shapeshifting skill mitigates and eventually eliminates the latter effect, as well as increasing damage dealt.
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 While transformed, equipped weapons, shields, and gloves are melded.}}
-[[File:blade talisman.png]] A '''blade talisman''' is a [[talisman]] that gives you '''Blade Hands''', increasing your damage in [[Unarmed Combat]].
+[[File:blade talisman.png]] A '''blade talisman''' is a [[talisman]] that gives you '''Blade Hands''', greatly increasing your damage in [[Unarmed Combat]].
 ==Useful Info==
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 **Above minimum: 15 damage (10 skill) - 23 damage (19 skill) ; +0.88 damage per level
 *Your [[auxiliary attack|off-hand punch]] gains +6 damage.
-*Reduces base [[AC]] of [[body armour]]; multiplies body armour base AC by <code>(Shapeshifting - 10) / 9</code> (min. 0), where your total AC is rounded down.<ref>{{source ref|0.31-b1|transform.cc|668}}</ref> (+11.1% per level)
+*Reduces base [[AC]] of [[body armour]]; multiplies body armour base AC by <code>(Shapeshifting - 10) / 9</code> (min. 0), where your total AC is rounded down.<ref>{{source ref|0.32.0|transform.cc|659}}</ref> (+11.1% per level)
 **Does not impact [[enchantment]], and AC gained from [[Armour skill]] is still calculated with the armour's full base AC. Stacks multiplicatively with [[Deformed]] / [[Pseudopods]].
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 ==Strategy==
-Blade Hands is essentially [[hand|two-handed]] Unarmed Combat. Even at 0 Unarmed Combat skill, you'll hit as hard as an [[eveningstar]], while keeping the off-hand punch. It's certainly strong, but melds the shield slot and reduces AC (until max skill).
+Blade Form is essentially [[hand|two-handed]] Unarmed Combat. Even at 0 Unarmed Combat skill, you'll hit as hard as an [[eveningstar]], while keeping the off-hand punch. It's certainly strong, but melds the shield slot and reduces AC (until max skill).
 Unlike certain other forms, Blade Hands doesn't meld body armour. It's great for Shapeshifters wanting to focus on Armour skill.
 ==History==

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 **Above minimum: 15 damage (10 skill) - 23 damage (19 skill) ; +0.88 damage per level
 *Your [[auxiliary attack|off-hand punch]] gains +6 damage.
-*Reduces base [[AC]] of [[body armour]]; multiplies body armour base AC by <code>(Shapeshifting - 10) / 9</code> (min. 0), where final AC is rounded down.<ref>{{source ref|0.31-b1|transform.cc|668}}</ref> (+11.1% per level)
+*Reduces base [[AC]] of [[body armour]]; multiplies body armour base AC by <code>(Shapeshifting - 10) / 9</code> (min. 0), where your total AC is rounded down.<ref>{{source ref|0.31-b1|transform.cc|668}}</ref> (+11.1% per level)
 **Does not impact [[enchantment]], and AC gained from [[Armour skill]] is still calculated with the armour's full base AC. Stacks multiplicatively with [[Deformed]] / [[Pseudopods]].

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 {{flavour|Causes long, needle-thin blades to grow from the user's hands and smaller fragments of metal to grow inside their body, deforming them and reducing the effectiveness of body armour. Shapeshifting skill mitigates and eventually eliminates the latter effect, as well as increasing damage dealt.
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 '''Combat Bonuses'''
-* '''[[Unarmed Combat]]:''' Linearly scales from the following points:
+*'''[[Unarmed Combat]]:''' Linearly scales from the following points:
 **Below minimum: 6 damage (0 skill) - 15 damage (10 skill)
 **Above minimum: 15 damage (10 skill) - 23 damage (19 skill) ; +0.88 damage per level
-* Your [[auxiliary attack|off-hand punch]] gains +6 damage.
+*Your [[auxiliary attack|off-hand punch]] gains +6 damage.
-* Reduces base [[AC]] of [[body armour]]; multiplies base AC by <code>(Shapeshifting - 10) / 9</code> (min. 0), where AC is rounded down. (+11.1% per level) <!-- https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/2b45326ab1db80c8b2121885b4e2a34d19850beb/crawl-ref/source/transform.cc#L608 transform.cc -->
+*Reduces base [[AC]] of [[body armour]]; multiplies base AC by <code>(Shapeshifting - 10) / 9</code> (min. 0), where AC is rounded down. (+11.1% per level) <!-- https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/2b45326ab1db80c8b2121885b4e2a34d19850beb/crawl-ref/source/transform.cc#L608 transform.cc -->
-** Does not impact [[enchantment]], and AC gained from [[Armour skill]] is still calculated with the armour's full base AC. Stacks multiplicatively with [[Deformed]] / [[Pseudopods]].
+**Does not impact [[enchantment]], and AC gained from [[Armour skill]] is still calculated with the armour's full base AC. Stacks multiplicatively with [[Deformed]] / [[Pseudopods]].
 '''Restrictions'''
-* '''[[Transformation#Useful Info|Melded Gear]]:''' [[Weapon]], [[shield]], and [[gloves]]. [[Claws]] are also melded.
+*'''[[Transformation#Useful Info|Melded Gear]]:''' [[Weapon]], [[shield]], and [[gloves]]. [[Claws]] are also melded.
-* You cannot [[throw]] items.
+*You cannot [[throw]] items.
 Blade Hands does not block [[mutation]]s (other than claws), does not change your [[size]], and gives no innate bonus to HP / [[AC]].
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 ==History==
-* Introduced in [[0.31]] in the transformation overhaul. Previously implemented as a spell, [[Blade Hands]].
+*Introduced in [[0.31]] in the transformation overhaul. Previously implemented as a spell, [[Blade Hands]].
 :The previous spell had 22 base damage, cut [[hydra]] heads, had a spellcasting penalty, and didn't have an AC penalty. (However, since it was a spell, heavy armour made it harder to cast).
 {{Forms}}
 [[Category: Transformation]]