Category talk:Conditions - Revision history

Flun at 20:50, 10 April 2013

2013-04-10T20:50:53Z

Flun: +1 for status effects

2013-04-10T20:50:35Z

+1 for status effects

MoogleDan: Reply to Bwijn

2013-04-10T19:18:39Z

Reply to Bwijn

Bwijn: "condition" describes better what is meant

2013-04-10T18:57:10Z

"condition" describes better what is meant

MoogleDan: Conditions vs. Status Effects

2013-04-10T11:55:21Z

Conditions vs. Status Effects

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Am I the only one who's wondered why the term "condition" is used here? I've always been familiar with this game concept being referred to as "status effects." If everyone's fine with this change in terminology, I'd like to go through the site and standardize them as status effects, NOT conditions. That being said, if "condition" is used in game somewhere, or if it's a more broadly used term than I'm aware of, I'll just clean up our current sloppy setup. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 13:55, 10 April 2013 (CEST)

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 ::What do you mean by "sth punctual"? Status effect is a term used in many other RPGs referring to temporary negative states such as confusion, poison, petrification, and so on. English is not your native language; I don't like to make presumptions like this, but you may not be familiar with the terminology even though it is very widely used in English language RPGs.
 ::Like I said, if ''Crawl'' uses the term "condition" somewhere in-game, then I'm all for sticking to it, but if not it seems very strange for us to use our own invented term. As for cleaning it up, I mean to organize it and fill in the many, many missing conditions that aren't currently listed on the [[status condition]] page. I think even you will agree that that would be a good idea :P  --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 21:18, 10 April 2013 (CEST)
-::Bwijn, I don't think MoogleDan is menacing anything but instead trying to improve the accuracy and readability of the wiki. I think that changing the "Condition" category is a good idea. In the source code, these effects/conditions/statuses are coded under [http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/status.cc status.cc]). Also the term "status effect" is [http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=grep&s=status+effect used in the source a few times as well]. MoogleDan, what is your plan for changing things? Is it just renaming the category to "Status Effects"? Are you going to be putting positive temporary effects such as [[Fast]], [[Fly]], [[Might]], [[Finesse]] in there too? You say that status effects are only negative. --[[User:Flun|Flun]] 22:50, 10 April 2013 (CEST)
+:::Bwijn, I don't think MoogleDan is menacing anything but instead trying to improve the accuracy and readability of the wiki. I think that changing the "Condition" category is a good idea. In the source code, these effects/conditions/statuses are coded under [http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/status.cc status.cc]). Also the term "status effect" is [http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=grep&s=status+effect used in the source a few times as well]. MoogleDan, what is your plan for changing things? Is it just renaming the category to "Status Effects"? Are you going to be putting positive temporary effects such as [[Fast]], [[Fly]], [[Might]], [[Finesse]] in there too? You say that status effects are only negative. --[[User:Flun|Flun]] 22:50, 10 April 2013 (CEST)

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	::What do you mean by "sth punctual"? Status effect is a term used in many other RPGs referring to temporary negative states such as confusion, poison, petrification, and so on. English is not your native language; I don't like to make presumptions like this, but you may not be familiar with the terminology even though it is very widely used in English language RPGs.		::What do you mean by "sth punctual"? Status effect is a term used in many other RPGs referring to temporary negative states such as confusion, poison, petrification, and so on. English is not your native language; I don't like to make presumptions like this, but you may not be familiar with the terminology even though it is very widely used in English language RPGs.
	::Like I said, if ''Crawl'' uses the term "condition" somewhere in-game, then I'm all for sticking to it, but if not it seems very strange for us to use our own invented term. As for cleaning it up, I mean to organize it and fill in the many, many missing conditions that aren't currently listed on the [[status condition]] page. I think even you will agree that that would be a good idea :P --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] 21:18, 10 April 2013 (CEST)		::Like I said, if ''Crawl'' uses the term "condition" somewhere in-game, then I'm all for sticking to it, but if not it seems very strange for us to use our own invented term. As for cleaning it up, I mean to organize it and fill in the many, many missing conditions that aren't currently listed on the [[status condition]] page. I think even you will agree that that would be a good idea :P --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] 21:18, 10 April 2013 (CEST)
		+	::Bwijn, I don't think MoogleDan is menacing anything but instead trying to improve the accuracy and readability of the wiki. I think that changing the "Condition" category is a good idea. In the source code, these effects/conditions/statuses are coded under [http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=blob;f=crawl-ref/source/status.cc status.cc]). Also the term "status effect" is [http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git&a=search&h=HEAD&st=grep&s=status+effect used in the source a few times as well]. MoogleDan, what is your plan for changing things? Is it just renaming the category to "Status Effects"? Are you going to be putting positive temporary effects such as [[Fast]], [[Fly]], [[Might]], [[Finesse]] in there too? You say that status effects are only negative. --[[User:Flun\|Flun]] 22:50, 10 April 2013 (CEST)

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	Am I the only one who's wondered why the term "condition" is used here? I've always been familiar with this game concept being referred to as "status effects." If everyone's fine with this change in terminology, I'd like to go through the site and standardize them as status effects, NOT conditions. That being said, if "condition" is used in game somewhere, or if it's a more broadly used term than I'm aware of, I'll just clean up our current sloppy setup. --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] 13:55, 10 April 2013 (CEST)		Am I the only one who's wondered why the term "condition" is used here? I've always been familiar with this game concept being referred to as "status effects." If everyone's fine with this change in terminology, I'd like to go through the site and standardize them as status effects, NOT conditions. That being said, if "condition" is used in game somewhere, or if it's a more broadly used term than I'm aware of, I'll just clean up our current sloppy setup. --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] 13:55, 10 April 2013 (CEST)
	:IMO the term "condition" describes better what is meant. You shouldn't revise that. An effect is sth punctual. And I don't understand what you mean by you menace "I'll just clean up our current sloppy setup"? Plz don't do it! -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 20:57, 10 April 2013 (CEST)		:IMO the term "condition" describes better what is meant. You shouldn't revise that. An effect is sth punctual. And I don't understand what you mean by you menace "I'll just clean up our current sloppy setup"? Plz don't do it! -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 20:57, 10 April 2013 (CEST)
		+	::What do you mean by "sth punctual"? Status effect is a term used in many other RPGs referring to temporary negative states such as confusion, poison, petrification, and so on. English is not your native language; I don't like to make presumptions like this, but you may not be familiar with the terminology even though it is very widely used in English language RPGs.
		+	::Like I said, if ''Crawl'' uses the term "condition" somewhere in-game, then I'm all for sticking to it, but if not it seems very strange for us to use our own invented term. As for cleaning it up, I mean to organize it and fill in the many, many missing conditions that aren't currently listed on the [[status condition]] page. I think even you will agree that that would be a good idea :P --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] 21:18, 10 April 2013 (CEST)

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	Am I the only one who's wondered why the term "condition" is used here? I've always been familiar with this game concept being referred to as "status effects." If everyone's fine with this change in terminology, I'd like to go through the site and standardize them as status effects, NOT conditions. That being said, if "condition" is used in game somewhere, or if it's a more broadly used term than I'm aware of, I'll just clean up our current sloppy setup. --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] 13:55, 10 April 2013 (CEST)		Am I the only one who's wondered why the term "condition" is used here? I've always been familiar with this game concept being referred to as "status effects." If everyone's fine with this change in terminology, I'd like to go through the site and standardize them as status effects, NOT conditions. That being said, if "condition" is used in game somewhere, or if it's a more broadly used term than I'm aware of, I'll just clean up our current sloppy setup. --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] 13:55, 10 April 2013 (CEST)
		+	:IMO the term "condition" describes better what is meant. You shouldn't revise that. An effect is sth punctual. And I don't understand what you mean by you menace "I'll just clean up our current sloppy setup"? Plz don't do it! -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 20:57, 10 April 2013 (CEST)