Comestibles and satiation - Revision history

Hordes: /* History */

2022-10-12T18:31:34Z

‎History

Hordes at 15:27, 28 September 2022

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Hordes at 15:21, 28 September 2022

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Hordes: /* Chunks of flesh */

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‎Chunks of flesh

Hordes: /* Chunks of flesh */

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‎Chunks of flesh

Hordes: archaic and ugly; put chunks in their own section like food

2022-09-27T17:16:56Z

archaic and ugly; put chunks in their own section like food

Hordes: clean topics that should belong to other pages. for example, regen's metabolism should be on regen's page. also remove "other sources of food"

2022-09-27T17:12:55Z

clean topics that should belong to other pages. for example, regen's metabolism should be on regen's page. also remove "other sources of food"

Hordes at 07:25, 8 August 2022

2022-08-08T07:25:32Z

Ge0ff: /* History */ add a section for retired permafood

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‎History: add a section for retired permafood

Ge0ff: /* History */

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‎History

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 *Prior to [[0.24]], Vampires used blood from corpses/[[potions of blood]] to achieve a similar food conduct to other species. Fedhas' abilities required rations. Also, wielding a [[vampiric]] weapon required being at least "Full" unless you were undead and would immediately drain a large amount of satiation.
 *Prior to [[0.19]], players could not go berserk if they were Very Hungry or worse.
-*Prior to [[0.17]], certain monsters (lik [[hungry ghost]]s) could eat [[corpse]]s from the floor.
+*Prior to [[0.17]], certain monsters (like [[hungry ghost]]s) could eat [[corpse]]s from the floor.
 *Prior to [[0.16]], chunks would turn into rotten chunks before rotting away completely; these could only be eaten by ghouls or with the [[Saprovore]] mutation. [[Potions of coagulated blood]] were also removed.
 *Prior to [[0.13]], contaminated chunks occasionally caused [[nausea]] and were less rewarding to non-saprovores.

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 ==Satiation==
-Your '''satiation''' level is determined by the number of nutrition units you have remaining. Most characters will use at least three food points per turn and will use more if actively fighting. Using spells can incur [[spell hunger]], which can only be reduced by the player's [[Intelligence]] and [[Spellcasting]] ability. Many special abilities also use up nutrition.
+Your '''satiation''' level is determined by the number of nutrition units you have remaining. Most characters will use at least three food points per turn, and will use more if actively fighting. Using spells can incur [[spell hunger]], which can only be reduced by the player's [[Intelligence]] and [[Spellcasting]] ability. Many special abilities also use up nutrition.
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 ===Effects of satiation===
-*If you are at level "Satiated" or more, most characters get no special bonus or penalty, although at level "Engorged", you cannot eat anything (with no other special penalties).
+*Engorged is the maximum hunger level, so you can't eat beyond it.
-*At level "Hungry" or lower, non-carnivores are allowed to eat chunks.
+*At Hungry or lower, non-carnivores are allowed to eat chunks.
-*At "Starving", you suffer a −3 penalty [[to hit]] when fighting, and the damage you inflict is reduced by (1d5 − 1). You cannot cast spells or use most abilities.
+*At Starving, you suffer a −3 penalty [[to hit]] when fighting, and the damage you inflict is reduced by (1d5 − 1). You cannot cast spells or use most abilities.
-**If you are under 500 points of satiation ("Fainting"), there is a 1/40 chance that you will [[sleep|lose consciousness]] for 1d8 + 5 turns. If you fall to 0 points, you will automatically eat one ration if you are carrying any; otherwise, your character will immediately die of starvation.
+**If you are under 500 points of satiation (Fainting), there is a 1/40 chance that you will [[sleep|lose consciousness]] for 1d8 + 5 turns.
 Undead characters are handled differently:
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 ===Other sources of hunger===
-Normal food consumption isn't the only way to decrease satiation: fighting, abilities, and spells eat up sustenance, as well.
+Normal food consumption isn't the only way to decrease satiation: fighting, abilities, and spells eat up sustenance, as well. Being a hungerless species/form means you don't need to spend satiation.
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 ;[[Spell Hunger]]
-:Casting a spell reduces your satiation level by an amount depending on the spell level, your [[Intelligence]], and your [[Spellcasting]] skill. This can be eliminated by [[wield]]ing a [[staff of energy]], being in [[lichform]], or playing a [[Mummy]] or [[Vampire]]. See [[Spell Hunger]] for more details.
+:Casting a spell reduces your satiation level by an amount depending on the spell level, your [[Intelligence]], and your [[Spellcasting]] skill. This can be eliminated by [[wield]]ing a [[staff of energy]]. See [[Spell Hunger]] for more details.
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 ==Overview==
 Hunger and food in Dungeon Crawl are rarely significant issues but, if ignored, can be fatal. Characters start with a satiated stomach, but grow steadily hungrier over time. Some races require less food than others, but all characters burn food more quickly when fighting and/or casting spells.
 ==Types of Food==
-Food is provided in two main forms: temporary chunks of raw flesh that rot over time, and "permafood" in the form of [[ration]]s that does not rot.
+Food is provided in two main forms: "permafood", in the form of rations, and temporary chunks of raw flesh that rot over time.
 ===Chunks of flesh===
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 [[Gozag Ym Sagoz]] imposes no formal dietary restrictions, but since it turns all corpses into gold, followers will not be able harvest chunks and must instead rely on permafood. Gozag does provide food [[shop]]s which the player will likely have to call on throughout the game to ensure they do not starve.
 ==Nutritional values of food items==
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 Undead characters are handled differently:
-*[[Mummy|Mummies]] and players under the [[Necromutation]] spell do not have a hunger clock and are not susceptible to the effects of hunger, nor can they consume food.
+*[[Mummy|Mummies]], [[Vampire]]s, and players under the [[Necromutation]] spell do not have a hunger clock and are not susceptible to the effects of hunger, nor can they consume food.
 *[[Ghoul]]s cannot become Full no matter how much they eat; any food points accumulated above 6,999 are wasted. They cannot starve to death, but will gradually rot over time (and will rot much faster when Hungry or worse). Ghouls are still susceptible to [[spell hunger]], but unlike other species, they can cast spells and use abilities while starving. Eating chunks both repairs rot and restores some HP; rations do not provide these benefits, but help stave off rot from being hungry.
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 *[[0.21]]: Mutagenic chunks (caused 0-1 random [[mutation]]s)
 *[[0.17]]: Poisonous chunks (inedible without rPois), putrefying chunks (caused [[rot]]).
-*[[0.15]]: Contaminated chunks (less nutrition  to non-sapovores)
+*[[0.15]]: Contaminated chunks (less nutrition to non-sapovores), Contaminated + poisonous chunks (as contaminated, but also [[poison]]ed you)
 ==History==

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 ===Chunks of flesh===
-'''Chunks''' are edible pieces of meat created by using the butcher ('''c''') on freshly slain [[corpse]]s. The number of chunks that a corpse provides is somewhat random, but larger monsters generally provide more. Butchering a corpse always takes one turn (10 [[aut]]s).
+'''Chunks''' are pieces of meat created by using the butcher ('''c''') on freshly slain [[corpse]]s. The number of chunks that a corpse provides is somewhat random, but larger monsters generally provide more. Butchering a corpse always takes one turn (10 [[aut]]s). Chunks may be edible, or inedible (which only the inhuman [[Ghoul]] species can consume).
-Most [[species]] can eat chunks only when hungry. Being a [[carnivore]], [[troll]], or wearing an [[amulet of the gourmand]] (after a delay) will let you eat chunks until you're Engorged, and you'll gain more nutrition from them. [[Spriggan]]s are completely herbivorous and can't eat meat.
+Most [[species]] can eat chunks only when hungry. Being a [[carnivore]], [[Troll]], or wearing an [[amulet of the gourmand]] (after a delay) will let you eat chunks until you're Engorged, and you'll gain more nutrition from them. [[Spriggan]]s are completely herbivorous and can't eat meat.
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 ===Chunks of flesh===
-'''Chunks''' are edible pieces of meat carved from freshly slain [[corpse]]s using the butcher ('''c''') command. The number of chunks that a corpse provides is somewhat random, but larger monsters generally provide more chunks. Most [[species]] can eat chunks only when [[hungry]], though [[carnivorous]] species can always eat chunks and get more satiation from doing so. Some species cannot eat meat at all ([[spriggan]]s, which are completely herbivorous, and [[vampire]]s and [[mummy|mummies]], which are completely incapable of eating). Butchering a corpse always takes one turn (10 [[aut]]s).
+'''Chunks''' are edible pieces of meat created by using the butcher ('''c''') on freshly slain [[corpse]]s. The number of chunks that a corpse provides is somewhat random, but larger monsters generally provide more. Butchering a corpse always takes one turn (10 [[aut]]s).
-You will most commonly encounter edible meat, which has no ill effects. Some creatures will instead produce inedible meat. For spriggans, all chunks will appear inedible, whereas for ghouls, all chunks will appear edible. Regardless of type, chunks of meat will rot away completely about 200 turns after its source corpse was slain. Each individual chunk has its own freshness and will rot away at its own interval, regardless if they are stacked together into one inventory slot.
+Most [[species]] can eat chunks only when hungry. Being a [[carnivore]], [[troll]], or wearing an [[amulet of the gourmand]] (after a delay) will let you eat chunks until you're Engorged, and you'll gain more nutrition from them. [[Spriggan]]s are completely herbivorous and can't eat meat.
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 *Prior to [[0.24]], Vampires used blood from corpses/[[potions of blood]] to achieve a similar food conduct to other species. Fedhas' abilities required rations. Also, wielding a [[vampiric]] weapon required being at least "Full" unless you were undead and would immediately drain a large amount of satiation.
 *Prior to [[0.21]], mutagenic chunks would be dropped by some chaotic enemies (such as [[ugly thing]]s or [[sky beast]]s) and would grant 0-1 random mutations when eaten.
-*Prior to [[0.20]], [[potion of haste|haste]] and [[invisibility]] had hunger-over-time costs.
+*Prior to [[0.19]], players could not go berserk if they were Very Hungry or worse.
-*Prior to [[0.19]], you could draw the [[Feast card]] from the [[deck of oddities]], instantly setting your satiation to "Engorged". Players could not go berserk if they were Very Hungry or worse. Also, berserk's hunger cost was applied at the end of the effect.
+*Prior to [[0.17]], Poisonous chunks (inedible without rPois) and putrefying chunks (caused [[rot]]) existed, which were merged to 'inedible chunks'. Also, certain monsters (lik [[hungry ghost]]s) could eat [[corpse]]s from the floor.
-*Prior to [[0.18]], the [[amulet of regeneration]] and [[troll leather armour]] increased your metabolism.
+*Prior to [[0.16]], chunks would turn into rotten chunks before rotting away completely; these could only be eaten by ghouls or with the [[Saprovore]] mutation. [[Potions of coagulated blood]] were also removed.
 *Prior to [[0.15]], some monsters would produce contaminated chunks, which provided less nutrition than clean chunks to non-saprovores.
-*Prior to [[0.14]], [[Gastronok]] and [[harpy|harpies]] could eat food and [[corpse]]s from the floor.
+*Prior to [[0.13]], contaminated chunks occasionally caused [[nausea]] and were less rewarding to non-saprovores.
-*Prior to [[0.13]], contaminated chunks occasionally caused [[nausea]], but gave less nutrition for characters that couldn't handle them.
+*Prior to [[0.6]], turn hunger was not proportional to you.time_taken.
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 ==Retired food==
 *[[0.21]]:
-**[[File:Meat ration.png]] [[meat ration]], [[File:Bread ration.png]] [[bread ration]], [[File:Royal jelly (item).png]] [[royal jelly]], and [[File:Apple.png]] [[fruit]] were merged into [[ration]]s.
+**[[File:Meat ration.png]] [[meat ration]], [[File:Bread ration.png]] [[bread ration]], [[File:Royal jelly (item).png]] [[royal jelly]], and [[File:Apple.png]] [[fruit]]; all merged into [[ration]]s, the only permafood item left.
 *[[0.20]]:
 **[[File:Beef jerky.png]] [[beef jerky]] and [[File:Pizza.png]] [[pizza]] were removed.