Divine retribution - Revision history

Hordes: v. bump

2026-02-12T17:45:59Z

v. bump

Hordes: /* Penance */ reduce parenthesis

2023-10-25T22:32:48Z

‎Penance: reduce parenthesis

Hordes: clarify - there's two 'counters' mentioned, so make the wrath counter explicit

2023-10-17T02:04:00Z

clarify - there's two 'counters' mentioned, so make the wrath counter explicit

Ge0ff at 17:12, 8 October 2023

2023-10-08T17:12:06Z

Hordes: /* Penance Counter */

2023-10-07T17:52:40Z

‎Penance Counter

Hordes: /* Penance Counter */

2023-10-07T17:48:38Z

‎Penance Counter

Hordes: "these gods do not use the wrath counter" "lists with other gods in penance section"

2023-10-07T17:47:56Z

"these gods do not use the wrath counter" "lists with other gods in penance section"

Hordes at 22:29, 10 September 2023

2023-09-10T22:29:00Z

Ge0ff at 19:25, 10 September 2023

2023-09-10T19:25:39Z

Hordes: move "list of gods w/o wrath counter" to the section describing wrath counter

2023-09-09T15:59:13Z

move "list of gods w/o wrath counter" to the section describing wrath counter

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 '''Divine retribution''' (or '''wrath''') is the consequence of having incurred '''penance''', divine disfavor, with a god.
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 *'''50''' - Beogh, Lugonu, Nemelex Xobeh, Trog, and Xom ("Relatively long duration")
 *'''30''' - Fedhas, Kikubaaqudgha, Jiyva, The Shining One, Sif Muna, and Yredelemnul
-*'''25''' - Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Makhleb, Qazlal, Vehumet, Zin
+*'''25''' - Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Okawaru, Makhleb, Qazlal, Vehumet, Zin
 *'''15''' - Ignis
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 ===Reduction===
-For most gods, penance is reduced by:
+Every time you'd receive a punishment through the wrath counter, penance is reduced by 1-3 (even if nothing actually happens).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|god-wrath.cc|2278}}</ref> Certain gods' punishments can reduce penance by a greater amount. Passive effects like [[Vehumet]]'s miscast effects don't decrement penance; for the gods with entirely passive effects (Ashenzari, Elyvilon, Gozag, and Helpliaklqana), XP gain is used instead.
-*[[Piety]] gain. If you're still worshipping a god with penance, if you would get piety, it can be used to reduce penance instead.
-*XP gain. Every time you'd receive a punishment through the wrath counter, penance is reduced by 1-3 (even if nothing actually happens).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|god-wrath.cc|2278}}</ref>
+In addition, if you still worship a god that is providing penance, gaining piety will reduce the penance meter.
 If penance is reduced to zero, you will see the following message:
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 ==History==
 *Prior to [[0.14]], divine wrath was applied approximately once every 2000 turns, and could be waited out.
 *Prior to [[0.11]], the check for retribution every 20 turns would pick only one god. Thus, if you were under penance from multiple gods: penance would take longer to wear off, but each god's wrath happened less often. You could "dilute" particularly nasty wraths (like [[Lugonu]]'s) by angering gods with 'weaker' wraths.

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 ==Penance==
-Penance is increased by violating a god's conducts. All gods except [[Ru]] incur penance for abandoning them, e.g. [[Trog]] gives 50 penance on abandonment. It can be reduced by gaining [[piety]] and/or XP ([[#Reduction|see below]] for details).
+Penance is increased by violating a god's conducts. All gods except [[Ru]] incur penance for abandoning them, e.g. [[Trog]] gives 50 penance on abandonment. It can be reduced by gaining [[piety]] and/or XP. [[#Reduction|See below]] for details.
-Penance and retribution are usually synonymous; penance can cause retribution. The three [[good god]]s ([[Elyvilon]], [[Zin]], [[TSO]]) can incur "penance", but don't inflict punishments unless you worship a disliked god (all good gods hate [[evil god]]s; Zin also hates [[Xom]] and [[Jiyva]]).
+Penance and retribution are usually synonymous; penance can cause retribution. The three [[good god]]s - [[Elyvilon]], [[Zin]], [[TSO]] - can incur "penance", but don't inflict punishments unless you worship a disliked god (all good gods hate [[evil god]]s; Zin also hates [[Xom]] and [[Jiyva]]).
 ==Divine Retribution==

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-'''Divine retribution''' ('''wrath''') is the consequence of having incurred '''penance''', divine disfavor, with a god.
+'''Divine retribution''' (or '''wrath''') is the consequence of having incurred '''penance''', divine disfavor, with a god.
 ==Penance==
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 ==Divine Retribution==
-Every time you gain XP with penance, a counter is decreased. When it reaches 0, there's a 5% chance (for each god) that you'll suffer wrath within the next 30 [[decaAut]]. On average, the wrath counter reaches 0 once every 0.5% of an experience level. That's an average of 10 retributions per XL per god. Owing penance to multiple gods means you will suffer wrath more frequently, but it will not last any longer.
+Every time you gain XP with penance, a separate 'wrath' counter is decreased. When it reaches 0, there's a 5% chance (for each god) that you'll suffer wrath within the next 30 [[decaAut]]. On average, the wrath counter reaches 0 once every 0.5% of an experience level. That's an average of 10 retributions per XL per god. Owing penance to multiple gods means you will suffer wrath more frequently, but it will not last any longer.
 Some gods inflict passive effects while under penance. For example, [[Ashenzari]] reduces your skills and makes enemy AI stronger; [[Elyvilon]] will randomly heal monsters about to die; [[Vehumet]] gives a 5% chance to get a [[miscast effect]] when casting destructive spells (but the spell still succeeds).

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 *'''15''' - Ignis
-Ashenzari, Elyvilon, Gozag, and Helpliaklqana give 50 penance on abandonment, however, it is not used like other gods. Instead, they require you to get roughly 2 [[XL]] worth of experience before being mollified.
+Ashenzari, Elyvilon, Gozag, and Helpliaklqana give 50 penance on abandonment, however, it is used differently. Unlike other gods, they require you to get roughly 2 [[XL]] worth of experience before being mollified.
 ===Reduction===

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 *'''15''' - Ignis
-Ashenzari, Elyvilon, Gozag, and Helpliaklqana start with 50 penance, however it is not used like other gods. Instead, these gods require you to get roughly 2 [[XL]] worth of experience before being mollified.
+Ashenzari, Elyvilon, Gozag, and Helpliaklqana give 50 penance on abandonment, however, it is not used like other gods. Instead, they require you to get roughly 2 [[XL]] worth of experience before being mollified.
 ===Reduction===
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 *XP gain. Every time you'd receive a punishment through the wrath counter, penance is reduced by 1-3 (even if nothing actually happens).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|god-wrath.cc|2278}}</ref>
 **Certain gods' punishments can reduce penance by a greater amount.
-**"Passive" effects, e.g. [[Vehumet]] miscast effects, don't decrement penance. If a god only has passive effects, penance is reduced by direct XP gain instead (see above).
+**"Passive" effects, e.g. [[Vehumet]] miscast effects, don't decrement penance. If a god only has passive effects, penance is reduced by direct XP gain instead.
 *If you leave and re-worship the god, penance will be reset (though your piety is reset, too). Only [[Lugonu]] prevents re-worship.

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 Every time you gain XP with penance, a counter is decreased. When it reaches 0, there's a 5% chance (for each god) that you'll suffer wrath within the next 30 [[decaAut]]. On average, the wrath counter reaches 0 once every 0.5% of an experience level. That's an average of 10 retributions per XL per god. Owing penance to multiple gods means you will suffer wrath more frequently, but it will not last any longer.
-Some gods inflict passive effects while under penance. For example, [[Ashenzari]] reduces your skills and makes enemy AI stronger; [[Elyvilon]] will randomly heal monsters about to die; [[Vehumet]] gives a 5% chance to get a [[miscast effect]] when casting destructive spells (but the spell still suceeds).
+Some gods inflict passive effects while under penance. For example, [[Ashenzari]] reduces your skills and makes enemy AI stronger; [[Elyvilon]] will randomly heal monsters about to die; [[Vehumet]] gives a 5% chance to get a [[miscast effect]] when casting destructive spells (but the spell still succeeds).
-For [[Ashenzari]], [[Elyvilon]], [[Gozag]], and [[Hepliaklqana]], their wrath is considered entirely of passive effects. These gods do not use the wrath counter.
+For [[Ashenzari]], [[Elyvilon]], [[Gozag]], and [[Hepliaklqana]], their wrath is manifested through passive effects only. These gods do not use the wrath counter.
 ===Overwhelming Retribution===
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 ==Penance Counter==
-If you are still worshipping the god in question, the Favour description in the religion screen ('''^''') describes the amount of penance remaining:<ref>{{source ref|0.23.0|describe-god.cc|91}}</ref>
+If you are still worshipping the god in question, the Favour description in the religion screen ('''^''') describes the amount of penance remaining:<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|describe-god.cc|88}}</ref>
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-If you aren't worshipping the god, you can look up the god (with '''? / G''') or pray at their [[altar]] to get a description:<ref>{{source ref|0.23.0|describe-god.cc|731}}</ref>
+If you aren't worshipping the god, you can look up the god (with '''? / G''') or pray at their [[altar]] to get a description:<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|describe-god.cc|705}}</ref>
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 |... wrath is beginning to fade.||greater than 25%
 |-
-|... is almost ready to forgive your sins.||less than 25%
+|... is almost ready to forgive your sins.<br>... wrath will not burn much longer. (Ignis only)||less than 25%
 |-
 |... is neutral towards you.||0%
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 *'''50''' - Ashenzari, Beogh, Elyvilon, Goazag, Helpliaklqana, Lugonu, Nemelex Xobeh, Trog, and Xom ("Relatively long duration")
 *'''30''' - Fedhas, Kikubaaqudgha, Jiyva, The Shining One, Sif Muna, and Yredelemnul
-*'''25''' - Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Qazlal, Vehumet, Zin
+*'''25''' - Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Makhleb, Qazlal, Vehumet, Zin
 *'''15''' - Ignis

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 Some gods inflict passive effects while under penance. For example, [[Ashenzari]] reduces your skills and makes enemy AI stronger; [[Elyvilon]] will randomly heal monsters about to die; [[Vehumet]] gives a 5% chance to get a [[miscast effect]] when casting destructive spells (but the spell still suceeds).
 ===Overwhelming Retribution===
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   If (1 in 5) AND (XL < 1d37 - 1) pass, it is overwhelming.
-You will either be [[confused]] (resistibly) for 5-7 turns, or [[slow]]ed for 0-19 (more) turns, with an equal chance for each.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|god-wrath.cc|2263}}</ref>
+You will either be [[confused]] (resistibly) for 5-7 turns, or [[slow]]ed for 0-19 (more) turns, with an equal chance for each.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|god-wrath.cc|2263}}</ref> Passive effects won't trigger this.
 ==Penance Counter==
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 *If you leave and re-worship the god, penance will be reset (though your piety is reset, too). Only [[Lugonu]] prevents re-worship.
-"Passive" effects, e.g. [[Vehumet]] miscast effects, don't decrement penance. For [[Ashenzari]], [[Elyvilon]], [[Gozag]], and [[Hepliaklqana]], their wrath is considered entirely of passive effects. They do not use the wrath counter; only direct XP gain (or piety, for Elyvilon) will end penance.
+"Passive" effects, e.g. [[Vehumet]] miscast effects, don't decrement penance. If a god only has passive effects, penance is reduced by direct XP gain instead.
 If the penance is reduced to zero, you will see the following message: