Draining (brand) - Revision history

Berder: Undo revision 83728 by Berder (talk) (My mistake! the original formula was correct)

2025-07-25T23:23:27Z

Undo revision 83728 by Berder (talk) (My mistake! the original formula was correct)

Berder: Undo revision 83729 by Berder (talk)

2025-07-25T23:23:00Z

Undo revision 83729 by Berder (talk)

Berder: Undo revision 83732 by Berder (talk)

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Undo revision 83732 by Berder (talk)

Berder at 23:03, 25 July 2025

2025-07-25T23:03:32Z

Berder at 20:10, 25 July 2025

2025-07-25T20:10:10Z

Berder: The previous article was an incorrect reading of the source. Fsim agrees with my reading. The 25% damage is calculated, but monster::drain ignores the pow argument and just does the 2-4 flat damage.

2025-07-25T20:09:09Z

The previous article was an incorrect reading of the source. Fsim agrees with my reading. The 25% damage is calculated, but monster::drain ignores the pow argument and just does the 2-4 flat damage.

Hordes at 19:29, 29 November 2023

2023-11-29T19:29:08Z

Hordes: adjust wording a bit, add ref

2023-11-28T23:01:23Z

adjust wording a bit, add ref

Ge0ff: unrelated monsters could also push drained monsters back, if their HD diff is high

2023-10-20T12:45:55Z

unrelated monsters could also push drained monsters back, if their HD diff is high

Ge0ff: max HP doesn't matter here, high HD monsters can push low HD monsters back (see the last part of monster_senior() in mon-util.cc)

2023-10-20T12:42:56Z

max HP doesn't matter here, high HD monsters can push low HD monsters back (see the last part of monster_senior() in mon-util.cc)

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 The '''draining''' [[brand]] adds a [[draining]] effect to weapons.
-Each attack from a draining weapon against a monster:
+Each attack from a draining weapon has a 50% chance of doing all of the following:
-* Deals 2-4 negative energy damage on every hit, ignoring armor.
+*Adds an average of roughly +25% [[negative energy]] damage (0 - 50%) to attacks, applied after [[AC]] and all damage factors (including [[slaying]]).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|attack.cc|840}}<br>Specifically, if you dealt damage, draining adds <code>(1d<damage_dealt>/2) + 0.5</code> negative energy damage, rounded down (thus, this bonus is slightly larger than 25%). Then, the extra 2-4 damage is added.</ref>
-* Inflicts 20-30 turns of the the [[Draining#Monster|Drained]] status. This decreases monster [[HD]], thus reducing their [[willpower]], [[spell power]], and [[accuracy]]. Further hits can refresh this status, but won't increase the duration beyond 30 turns.
+*Deal an additional 2-4 negative energy damage on top of that.
+*Inflicts 20-30 turns of the the [[Draining#Monster|Drained]] status. This decreases monster [[HD]], thus reducing their [[willpower]], [[spell power]], and [[accuracy]]. Further hits can refresh this status, but won't increase the duration beyond 30 turns.
 :Against players, the draining status will temporarily reduce your maximum HP. This can be cured by gaining XP.

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-{{flavour|It sometimes drains living victims (1/2 chance). Against players, this deals an additional one-quarter of any damage that pierces defenders' armour. Against monsters, this deals a flat 2-4 damage, and also weakens them slightly. A truly terrible weapon...}}
+{{flavour|It sometimes drains living victims (1/2 chance). This deals an additional one-quarter of any damage that pierces defenders' armour as well as a flat 2-4 damage, and also weakens them slightly. A truly terrible weapon...}}
 The '''draining''' [[brand]] adds a [[draining]] effect to weapons.

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 The '''draining''' [[brand]] adds a [[draining]] effect to weapons.
-% of the time, an attack from a draining weapon against a monster:
+Each attack from a draining weapon against a monster:
-* Deals 2-4 negative energy damage, ignoring armour.
+* Deals 2-4 negative energy damage on every hit, ignoring armor.
 * Inflicts 20-30 turns of the the [[Draining#Monster|Drained]] status. This decreases monster [[HD]], thus reducing their [[willpower]], [[spell power]], and [[accuracy]]. Further hits can refresh this status, but won't increase the duration beyond 30 turns.

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 The '''draining''' [[brand]] adds a [[draining]] effect to weapons.
-Each attack from a draining weapon against a monster:
+% of the time, an attack from a draining weapon against a monster:
-* Deals 2-4 negative energy damage on every hit, ignoring armor.
+* Deals 2-4 negative energy damage, ignoring armour.
 * Inflicts 20-30 turns of the the [[Draining#Monster|Drained]] status. This decreases monster [[HD]], thus reducing their [[willpower]], [[spell power]], and [[accuracy]]. Further hits can refresh this status, but won't increase the duration beyond 30 turns.

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-{{version030}}
+{{version033}}
-{{flavour|It sometimes drains living victims (1/2 chance). This deals an additional one-quarter of any damage that pierces defenders' armour as well as a flat 2-4 damage, and also weakens them slightly. A truly terrible weapon...}}
+{{flavour|It sometimes drains living victims (1/2 chance). Against players, this deals an additional one-quarter of any damage that pierces defenders' armour. Against monsters, this deals a flat 2-4 damage, and also weakens them slightly. A truly terrible weapon...}}
 The '''draining''' [[brand]] adds a [[draining]] effect to weapons.

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 Each attack from a draining weapon has a 50% chance of doing all of the following:
-*Deal an average of +25% [[negative energy]] damage (0 - 50%), applied after [[AC]] and all damage factors (including [[slaying]]).
+*Adds an average of roughly +25% [[negative energy]] damage (0 - 50%) to attacks, applied after [[AC]] and all damage factors (including [[slaying]]).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|attack.cc|840}}<br>Specifically, if you dealt damage, draining adds <code>(1d<damage_dealt>/2) + 0.5</code> negative energy damage, rounded down. Therefore, this boost is slightly bigger than 25%.</ref>
 *Deal an additional 2-4 negative energy damage on top of that.
 *Inflicts 20-30 turns of the the [[Draining#Monster|Drained]] status. This decreases monster [[HD]], thus reducing their [[willpower]], [[spell power]], and [[accuracy]]. Further hits can refresh this status, but won't increase the duration beyond 30 turns.
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 *Prior to [[0.15]], draining weapons would permanently lower monster HD, which also slightly lowered the experience and piety rewards for killing them.
 *Prior to [[0.13]], draining weapons used against the player had no impact on your skills. Instead, it permanently reduced your experience, potentially causing you to lose experience levels.
 {{brands}}
 [[Category:Brands]]

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 ===Tips & Tricks===
-*Since the drain status lowers HD, other similar monsters could switch places with drained monsters, pushing them back and wasting turns.
+*Since the drain status lowers HD, higher HD monsters could switch places with drained monsters, pushing them back and wasting turns.
 ==History==