Eveningstar - Revision history

Pisaster: bump, quote, and unrands

2024-02-13T02:01:03Z

bump, quote, and unrands

Hordes: capitalize species names, add flavour

2023-07-11T05:10:27Z

capitalize species names, add flavour

Hordes: slight format

2023-07-11T05:05:48Z

slight format

Hordes: actually version bump

2023-06-15T13:02:59Z

actually version bump

Hordes at 13:02, 15 June 2023

2023-06-15T13:02:37Z

Hordes at 10:33, 15 June 2023

2023-06-15T10:33:46Z

Hordes at 10:33, 15 June 2023

2023-06-15T10:33:01Z

Ge0ff: there are no more str/dex weapons

2021-07-15T11:10:17Z

there are no more str/dex weapons

Hordes at 12:04, 13 July 2021

2021-07-13T12:04:10Z

NormalPerson7: Update to 0.23, add the sceptre of Torment.

2019-02-07T19:42:24Z

Update to 0.23, add the sceptre of Torment.

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-{{version030}}
+{{version031}}
 {{weapon
   |name        = Eveningstar
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   |acquirement = 2
 }}
-{{flavour|The opposite of a morningstar. A balanced mace with a long shaft and a metal head covered in lethal spikes.}}
+{{flavour|The opposite of a morningstar. A balanced mace with a long shaft and a metal head covered in lethal spikes.
 {{crawlquote|This weapon falls into the [[Maces & Flails]] category. It is a one handed weapon.}}
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 |-
 | '''Artifact''' || [[File:Eveningstar3.png]]
-|}
+|-
-{| class="prettytable" style="border:none; margin:auto; padding:0; text-align: center"
+! || [[Unrandart]]s
 |-
 | '''[[Sceptre of Torment]]''' || [[File:Sceptre_of_torment.png]]
 |}

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   |acquirement = 2
 }}
-{{flavour|The opposite of a morningstar.}}
+{{flavour|The opposite of a morningstar. A balanced mace with a long shaft and a metal head covered in lethal spikes.}}
 {{crawlquote|This weapon falls into the [[Maces & Flails]] category. It is a one handed weapon.}}
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 The differences between eveningstars and [[demon whip]]s are small. A +9 [[brand]]ed eveningstar is enough to win you the game, as is a +9 branded demon whip. Generally, the weapon you get ''first'' should be the one that you use. (The weapon you get first can benefit first from [[scrolls of enchant weapon]]).
-There are cases where specific comparison is warranted. Against a 0 AC opponent, a +0 demon whip is roughly 2.6% stronger than a +0 eveningstar. The demon whip attacks faster, so it is penalized more by [[AC]], and conversely benefits more from [[slaying]] and [[auxiliary attack]]s. Characters with lots of auxiliary attacks, like [[vine stalker]]s and monstrous [[demonspawn]] will prefer a demon whip. Otherwise, it is mostly even, slightly favored towards the eveningstar. This analysis is independent of a character's [[strength]] or skill.
+There are cases where specific comparison is warranted. Against a 0 AC opponent, a +0 demon whip is roughly 2.6% stronger than a +0 eveningstar. The demon whip attacks faster, so it is penalized more by [[AC]], and conversely benefits more from [[slaying]] and [[auxiliary attack]]s. Characters with lots of auxiliary attacks, like [[Vine Stalker]]s and monstrous [[Demonspawn]] will prefer a demon whip. Otherwise, it is mostly even, slightly favored towards the eveningstar. This analysis is independent of a character's [[strength]] or skill.
 {| class="prettytable" style="border:none; margin:auto; padding:0; text-align: center"

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 The differences between eveningstars and [[demon whip]]s are small. A +9 [[brand]]ed eveningstar is enough to win you the game, as is a +9 branded demon whip. Generally, the weapon you get ''first'' should be the one that you use. (The weapon you get first can benefit first from [[scrolls of enchant weapon]]).
-There are cases where specific comparison is warranted. Against a 0 AC opponent, a +0 demon whip is roughly 2.6% stronger than a +0 eveningstar. The demon whip attacks faster, so it is penalized more by [[AC]], and conversely benefits more from [[slaying]] and [[auxiliary attack]]s.
+There are cases where specific comparison is warranted. Against a 0 AC opponent, a +0 demon whip is roughly 2.6% stronger than a +0 eveningstar. The demon whip attacks faster, so it is penalized more by [[AC]], and conversely benefits more from [[slaying]] and [[auxiliary attack]]s. Characters with lots of auxiliary attacks, like [[vine stalker]]s and monstrous [[demonspawn]] will prefer a demon whip. Otherwise, it is mostly even, slightly favored towards the eveningstar. This analysis is independent of a character's [[strength]] or skill.
 {| class="prettytable" style="border:none; margin:auto; padding:0; text-align: center"

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-{{version026}}
+{{version030}}
 {{weapon
   |name        = Eveningstar

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 }}
 {{flavour|The opposite of a morningstar.}}
-Not only is an '''eveningstar''' the opposite of a morningstar, it's also a superior weapon. They have the highest base damage of any one-handed weapon, often competing with the faster [[demon whip]]s/[[sacred scourge]]s for overall damage/turn. Unfortunately, they are quite rare.
+Not only is an '''eveningstar''' the opposite of a morningstar, it's also a superior weapon. They have the highest base damage of any one-handed weapon, around the level of [[demon whip]]s for overall damage/turn. Unfortunately, they are quite rare.
 ==Strategy==
 ===Compared to demon whips===
-The differences between eveningstars and [[demon whip]]s are small. A +9 [[brand]]ed eveningstar is enough to win you the game, as is a +9 branded demon whip. Therefore, you should generally be using the weapon that you find ''first'', as it allows you to use up [[scrolls of enchant weapon]] faster.
+The differences between eveningstars and [[demon whip]]s are small. A +9 [[brand]]ed eveningstar is enough to win you the game, as is a +9 branded demon whip. Generally, the weapon you get ''first'' should be the one that you use. (The weapon you get first can benefit first from [[scrolls of enchant weapon]]).
 There are cases where specific comparison is warranted. Against a 0 AC opponent, a +0 demon whip is roughly 2.6% stronger than a +0 eveningstar. The demon whip attacks faster, so it is penalized more by [[AC]], and conversely benefits more from [[slaying]] and [[auxiliary attack]]s.

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−	Not only is an '''eveningstar''' the opposite of a morningstar, it's also a superior weapon. They have the highest base damage of any one-handed weapon, often competing with the faster [[demon whip]]s/[[sacred scourge]]s for damage. Unfortunately, they are quite rare.	+	Not only is an '''eveningstar''' the opposite of a morningstar, it's also a superior weapon. They have the highest base damage of any one-handed weapon, often competing with the faster [[demon whip]]s/[[sacred scourge]]s for overall damage/turn. Unfortunately, they are quite rare.
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		+	===Compared to demon whips===
		+	The differences between [[demon whip]]s and eveningstars are small. A +9 [[brand]]ed eveningstar is enough to win you the game, as is a +9 branded demon whip. Therefore, you should generally be using the weapon that you find ''first'', as it allows you to use up [[scrolls of enchant weapon]] faster.
		+
		+	There are cases where specific comparison is warranted. Against a 0 AC opponent, a +0 demon whip is roughly 2.6% stronger than a +0 eveningstar. The demon whip attacks faster, so it is penalized more by [[AC]], and conversely benefits more from [[slaying]] and [[auxiliary attack]]s.
		+
		+	Characters with lots of auxiliary attacks, like [[Vine Stalker]]s and monstrous [[Demonspawn]] will prefer a demon whip. Otherwise, it is mostly even, slightly favored towards the eveningstar. This is independent of a character's [[strength]] or skill.

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 {{weapon
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 {{crawlquote|This weapon falls into the '[[Maces & Flails]]' category. It is a one handed weapon, and it is better for the strong.}}
-Not only is an '''eveningstar''' the opposite of a morningstar, it's also a superior weapon. They are on par with [[demon whip]]s/[[sacred scourge]]s in terms of one-handed [[M&F]] weapons; although their attack speed is slower, their higher base damage makes them better suited to taking out heavily armoured opponents. Unfortunately, they are quite rare, and one will often find a demon whip long before finding an eveningstar. They have the highest base damage of any one-handed weapon in the game.
+Not only is an '''eveningstar''' the opposite of a morningstar, it's also a superior weapon. They have the highest base damage of any one-handed weapon, often competiting with the faster [[demon whip]]s/[[sacred scourge]]s for damage. Unfortunately, they are quite rare.

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 {{weapon
   |name        = Eveningstar
   |skill       = Maces & Flails
   |damage      = 15
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   |size        = Medium
   |ranged      = No
-  |damtype     = Piercing (bludgeoning)
+  |damtype     = Crushing
   |acquirement = 2
 }}
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 |-
 | '''Artifact''' || [[File:Eveningstar3.png]]
 |}
 ==History==
-Prior to [[0.12]], eveningstars had only 14 base damage.
+*Prior to [[0.23]], the unrandart [[sceptre of Torment]] was a [[staff]].
 {{weapons}}
 [[Category:Maces & Flails]]