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Hordes: /* Strategy */ freezing -> flaming

2025-04-22T16:02:21Z

‎Strategy: freezing -> flaming

Hordes: add links to "flame"

2023-11-30T19:00:13Z

add links to "flame"

Hordes: adjust example to match freezing

2023-11-28T22:50:54Z

adjust example to match freezing

Hordes: add note on the actual damage formula

2023-11-28T22:39:11Z

add note on the actual damage formula

Hordes: quick space blade

2023-11-08T11:29:53Z

quick space blade

Hordes: /* Sources */

2023-11-08T11:26:08Z

‎Sources

Hordes: new format

2023-09-02T21:51:16Z

new format

Hordes at 15:07, 20 February 2023

2023-02-20T15:07:37Z

Hordes at 20:25, 23 January 2023

2023-01-23T20:25:15Z

Hordes at 20:20, 23 January 2023

2023-01-23T20:20:58Z

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 Flaming is one of a couple percentage-based brands that's good enough to beat a 3-rune game. For edged-weapon users, flaming is very desirable against hydras, who are often difficult to take out otherwise.
-As flaming applies its percentage boost after AC reduction, it is no better or worse when considering strength, weapon type, slaying, or AC. An [[executioner's axe]] of freezing receives the same +25% boost to final damage as a [[quick blade]] of freezing. It's just that a quick blade's base damage is weak, so a brand like [[electrocution]] or [[pain (brand)|pain]] will be stronger for it.
+As flaming applies its percentage boost after AC reduction, it is no better or worse when considering strength, weapon type, slaying, or AC. An [[executioner's axe]] of flaming receives the same +25% boost to final damage as a [[quick blade]] of flaming. It's just that a quick blade's base damage is weak, so a brand like [[electrocution]] or [[pain (brand)|pain]] will be stronger for it.
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 {{flavour|It burns victims, dealing an additional one-quarter of any damage that pierces defenders' armour. Big, fiery blades are also staple armaments of hydra-hunters.}}
 The '''flaming''' [[brand]] does the following:
 *Adds an average of roughly +25% [[fire]] damage (0% - 50%) to attacks, applied after [[AC]] and all damage factors (including [[slaying]]).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|attack.cc|1585}}<br>Specifically, if you dealt damage, flaming adds <code>(1d<damage_dealt>/2) + 0.5</code> fire damage, rounded down. Therefore, flaming's boost is slightly bigger than 25%. This is more noticeable on weak attacks, e.g. if you dealt 1 damage, you'd always get +1 flaming damage (for an average of +100%).</ref>
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 ==History==
-*Prior to [[0.15]], you could temporarily apply a flaming brand to your (unbranded) weapon with the spell [[Fire Brand]], which could be made permanent with a [[scroll of vorpalize weapon]].
+*Prior to [[0.15]], you could temporarily apply a flaming brand to your (unbranded) weapon with the spell [[Fire Brand]], which could be made permanent with a [[scroll of vorpalize weapon]]. Also, [[ranged weapon]]s had the "flame" brand, which was identical other than its name.
 ==References==

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 {{flavour|It burns victims, dealing an additional one-quarter of any damage that pierces defenders' armour. Big, fiery blades are also staple armaments of hydra-hunters.}}
 The '''flaming''' [[brand]] does the following:
-*Adds an average of roughly +25% [[fire]] damage (0% - 50%) to attacks, applied after [[AC]] and all damage factors (including [[slaying]]).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|attack.cc|1585}}<br>Specifically, if you dealt damage, flaming adds <code>(1d<damage_dealt>/2) + 0.5</code> fire damage, rounded down. Because of this formula, flaming's boost is slightly bigger than 25%. This is more noticeable on weak attacks, e.g. if you dealt 2 damage, you always get +1 flaming (for an average of +50%).</ref>
+*Adds an average of roughly +25% [[fire]] damage (0% - 50%) to attacks, applied after [[AC]] and all damage factors (including [[slaying]]).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|attack.cc|1585}}<br>Specifically, if you dealt damage, flaming adds <code>(1d<damage_dealt>/2) + 0.5</code> fire damage, rounded down. Therefore, flaming's boost is slightly bigger than 25%. This is more noticeable on weak attacks, e.g. if you dealt 1 damage, you'd always get +1 flaming damage (for an average of +100%).</ref>
 *When an edged weapon of flaming ([[Long Blades]], [[Axes]], 2-handed [[Polearms]], [[lajatang]]s) cuts [[hydra]] heads, flaming will cauterize the wound, preventing the hydra from regrowing heads, for a net loss of 1 head.

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 {{flavour|It burns victims, dealing an additional one-quarter of any damage that pierces defenders' armour. Big, fiery blades are also staple armaments of hydra-hunters.}}
 The '''flaming''' [[brand]] does the following:
-*Deals an average of +25% [[fire]] damage (0% - 50%), applied after [[AC]] and all damage factors (including [[slaying]]).
+*Adds an average of roughly +25% [[fire]] damage (0% - 50%) to attacks, applied after [[AC]] and all damage factors (including [[slaying]]).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|attack.cc|1585}}<br>Specifically, if you dealt damage, flaming adds <code>(1d<damage_dealt>/2) + 0.5</code> fire damage, rounded down. Because of this formula, flaming's boost is slightly bigger than 25%. This is more noticeable on weak attacks, e.g. if you dealt 2 damage, you always get +1 flaming (for an average of +50%).</ref>
 *When an edged weapon of flaming ([[Long Blades]], [[Axes]], 2-handed [[Polearms]], [[lajatang]]s) cuts [[hydra]] heads, flaming will cauterize the wound, preventing the hydra from regrowing heads, for a net loss of 1 head.
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 ==History==
 *Prior to [[0.15]], you could temporarily apply a flaming brand to your (unbranded) weapon with the spell [[Fire Brand]], which could be made permanent with a [[scroll of vorpalize weapon]].
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 Flaming is one of a couple percentage-based brands that's good enough to beat a 3-rune game. For edged-weapon users, flaming is very desirable against hydras, who are often difficult to take out otherwise.
-As flaming applies its percentage boost after AC reduction, it is no better or worse when considering strength, weapon type, slaying, or AC. An [[executioner's axe]] of freezing receives the same +25% boost to final damage as a [[quickblade]] of freezing. It's just that a quickblade's base damage is weak, so a brand like [[electrocution]] or [[pain (brand)|pain]] will be stronger overall.
+As flaming applies its percentage boost after AC reduction, it is no better or worse when considering strength, weapon type, slaying, or AC. An [[executioner's axe]] of freezing receives the same +25% boost to final damage as a [[quick blade]] of freezing. It's just that a quick blade's base damage is weak, so a brand like [[electrocution]] or [[pain (brand)|pain]] will be stronger for it.
 ==History==

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 *[[Efreet]]s, as well as the uniques [[Erica]] and [[Azrael]], often carry [[scimitar]]s of flaming.
 *[[Fire giant]]s usually generate with flaming [[great sword]]s.
-*[[Nessos]] is always generate with a flaming [[longbow]].
+*[[Nessos]] is always generated with a flaming [[longbow]].
 *[[Trog]] often gifts weapons of flaming.

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-The '''flaming''' [[brand]] deals an average of +25% [[fire]] damage, or 0% - 50% more per swing, reduced proportionally by [[fire resistance]]. This damage is applied after [[AC]]. Although less effective against creatures with fire resistance, it can devastate anything vulnerable to it.
+{{flavour|It burns victims, dealing an additional one-quarter of any damage that pierces defenders' armour. Big, fiery blades are also staple armaments of hydra-hunters.}}
-A flaming edged weapon ([[Long Blades]], [[Axes]], 2-handed [[Polearms]], [[lajatang]]) will cauterize a [[hydra]]'s heads, preventing it from regrowing. In effect, they reduce the head count by 1 per hit, without any of the regular healing.
+==Sources==
-As flaming applies its percentage boost after AC reduction, it is no better or worse when considering strength, weapon type, slaying, or AC. An [[executioner's axe]] of flaming receives the same +25% boost to final damage as a [[quickblade]] of flaming. It's just that brands like [[electrocution]] and [[pain]] deal flat damage; ''they'' are stronger with faster weapons, but check strength less.
+==Strategy==
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+As flaming applies its percentage boost after AC reduction, it is no better or worse when considering strength, weapon type, slaying, or AC. An [[executioner's axe]] of freezing receives the same +25% boost to final damage as a [[quickblade]] of freezing. It's just that a quickblade's base damage is weak, so a brand like [[electrocution]] or [[pain (brand)|pain]] will be stronger overall.
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 A flaming edged weapon ([[Long Blades]], [[Axes]], 2-handed [[Polearms]], [[lajatang]]) will cauterize a [[hydra]]'s heads, preventing it from regrowing. In effect, they reduce the head count by 1 per hit, without any of the regular healing.
-As flaming applies its percentage boost after AC reduction, it is no better or worse when considering strength, weapon type, slaying, or AC. An [[executioner's axe]] of flaming receives the same +25% boost to final damage as a [[quickblade]] of flaming. It's just that brands like [[electrocution]] and [[pain]] deal flat damage, so are stronger with faster weapons but check strength less.
+As flaming applies its percentage boost after AC reduction, it is no better or worse when considering strength, weapon type, slaying, or AC. An [[executioner's axe]] of flaming receives the same +25% boost to final damage as a [[quickblade]] of flaming. It's just that brands like [[electrocution]] and [[pain]] deal flat damage; they are stronger with faster weapons, but check strength less.
 ===Sources===