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Hordes: 3d(13 * 1.5) / 3 - 1 = (3d19.5)/3 - 1 = roll from 0 - 19

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3d(13 * 1.5) / 3 - 1 = (3d19.5)/3 - 1 = roll from 0 - 19

Ge0ff at 12:50, 5 September 2023

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 *If you're a caster, the following can work (depending on the character):
 **Damage-over-time effects. [[Freezing Cloud]], despite their cold resistance, can kill if the moth spends enough time in the cloud. [[Sticky Flame]] is usually too weak to kill in 1 cast, but it does negate their invisibility.
-**[[Summon Cactus Giant]]. While cactus giants lack SInv, the spines can do a lot. If the giant is in the moth's way, the moth will attack the giant, causing the moth to take heavy damage (possibly killing it). If needed, '''[[t]]'''ell the giant to '''r'''etreat towards a desired direction.
+**[[Ally]] users typically have a way to deal with ghost moths. Summoners can use [[Summon Cactus Giant]], which, despite lacking SInv, can deal lots of damage through spines - just get the giant to stand in the way of the moth. Forgecraft users can use [[Forge Blazeheart Golem]] in a similar way, while [[Hoarfrost Cannonade]] can SInv and deal significant chip damage. For Necromancers, [[Death Channel]]'s spectres can see invisible, and can be easily accessed if you worship [[Kiku]].
 **Failing that, [[evocable]]s are good MP-less ways of dealing damage. Even at 0 Evocations, using 4 charges of a [[lightning rod]] will take a huge chunk of the moth's HP. With good Evocations training, a [[condenser vane]], [[tin of tremorstones]], or attack [[wand]]s can kill / finish off a moth.
 *Ghost moths make for great [[Yredelemnul]] souls. When Draining Gaze hits a monster, it inflicts [[antimagic]], which is brutally effective against spellcasters.

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-'''Ghost moths''' are speedy, [[invisible]] monsters with an [[MP]]-draining gaze and [[stat]]-draining melee attacks.  If you can't see invisible, you'll "feel you are being watched by something" whenever a ghost moth is around. They can be found in the [[Spider's Nest]] (particularly in Spider:4), rarely in [[the Realm of Zot]], and in a special "eye of draining" [[Pandemonium]] rune vault.
+'''Ghost moths''' are speedy, [[invisible]] monsters with a [[mana]]-draining gaze and surprisingly hurtful melee attacks.  If you can't see invisible, you'll "feel you are being watched by something" whenever a ghost moth tries to drain your MP. They can be found in the [[Spider's Nest]] (particularly in Spider:4), rarely in [[the Realm of Zot]], and in a special "eye of draining" [[Pandemonium]] rune [[vault]].
 A ghost moth's [[Draining Gaze|gaze]] causes you to lose 0-19 MP, weighted towards the average. Since moths cast Draining Gaze on 50% of their actions,<ref>{{source ref|0.32.1|mon-spell.h|712}}<br>Monsters cast spells, if valid, at a X/200 chance.</ref> and as the gaze takes up no time, they can rapidly drain your MP.
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 ==History==
 *Prior to [[0.31]], ghost moths would heal themselves when draining MP.
 *Prior [[0.28]], ghost moths' melee attacks could inflict strong poison, making stat drain less likely.

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 '''Ghost moths''' are speedy, [[invisible]] monsters with an [[MP]]-draining gaze and [[stat]]-draining melee attacks.  If you can't see invisible, you'll "feel you are being watched by something" whenever a ghost moth is around. They can be found in the [[Spider's Nest]] (particularly in Spider:4), rarely in [[the Realm of Zot]], and in a special "eye of draining" [[Pandemonium]] rune vault.
-A ghost moth's [[Draining Gaze|gaze]] causes you to lose 0-19 MP, weighted towards the average. Since moths cast Draining Gaze on 50% of their actions,<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|mon-spell.h|44}}<br>Monsters cast spells, if valid, at a X/200 chance.</ref> and as the gaze takes up no time, they can rapidly drain your MP.
+A ghost moth's [[Draining Gaze|gaze]] causes you to lose 0-19 MP, weighted towards the average. Since moths cast Draining Gaze on 50% of their actions,<ref>{{source ref|0.32.1|mon-spell.h|712}}<br>Monsters cast spells, if valid, at a X/200 chance.</ref> and as the gaze takes up no time, they can rapidly drain your MP.
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 *If you're a caster, the following can work (depending on the character):
 **Damage-over-time effects. [[Freezing Cloud]], despite their cold resistance, can kill if the moth spends enough time in the cloud. [[Sticky Flame]] is usually too weak to kill in 1 cast, but it does negate their invisibility.
-**[[Summon Cactus Giant]]. While cactus giants lack SInv, the spines can do a lot. If the giant is in the moth's way, the moth will attack the giant, taking heavy damage (possibly killing the moth). If needed, '''[[t]]'''ell the giant to '''r'''etreat towards a desired direction.
+**[[Summon Cactus Giant]]. While cactus giants lack SInv, the spines can do a lot. If the giant is in the moth's way, the moth will attack the giant, causing the moth to take heavy damage (possibly killing it). If needed, '''[[t]]'''ell the giant to '''r'''etreat towards a desired direction.
 **For [[Kiku]] worshippers, [[Death Channel]]'s spectres can see invisible. You can use Unearth Wretches multiple times for each ghost moth; it's a cheap 1* ability, so don't worry about piety too much.
 **Failing that, [[evocable]]s are good MP-less ways of dealing damage. Even at 0 Evocations, using 4 charges of a [[lightning rod]] will take a huge chunk of the moth's HP. With good Evocations training, a [[condenser vane]], [[tin of tremorstones]], or attack [[wand]]s can kill / finish off a moth.

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 '''Ghost moths''' are speedy, [[invisible]] monsters with an [[MP]]-draining gaze and [[stat]]-draining melee attacks.  If you can't see invisible, you'll "feel you are being watched by something" whenever a ghost moth is around. They can be found in the [[Spider's Nest]] (particularly in Spider:4), rarely in [[the Realm of Zot]], and in a special "eye of draining" [[Pandemonium]] rune vault.
-A ghost moth's [[Draining Gaze|gaze]] causes you to lose 0-19 MP, weighted towards the average. The moth then is healed for any MP drained. Since moths cast Draining Gaze on 50% of their actions,<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|mon-spell.h|44}}<br>Monsters cast spells, if valid, at a X/200 chance.</ref> and as the gaze takes up no time, they can rapidly drain your MP.
+A ghost moth's [[Draining Gaze|gaze]] causes you to lose 0-19 MP, weighted towards the average. Since moths cast Draining Gaze on 50% of their actions,<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|mon-spell.h|44}}<br>Monsters cast spells, if valid, at a X/200 chance.</ref> and as the gaze takes up no time, they can rapidly drain your MP.
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 ==Tips & Tricks==
-*The loss of MP is very fast. Even if you're not a spellcaster, be wary that some [[god]] abilities require MP to invoke.
+*The loss of MP is ''very'' fast. Even if you're not a spellcaster, be wary that some [[god]] abilities require MP to invoke.
 *Ghost moths are a good reason to keep a source of [[see invisible]] around. When fighting an invisible enemy you can't see - even if you detect their location - you get harsh penalties to [[accuracy]], [[EV]], and [[SH]]. If you receive the message "You feel you are being watched by something," swap to a source of see invisible immediately. Keep in mind they fly faster than most characters run, so escaping without items is not an option.
 *Ghost moths themselves cannot see invisible. If you are invisible, ghost moths can't drain your MP.
 *If you're a caster, the following can work (depending on the character):
-**Damage-over-time effects. [[Freezing Cloud]], despite their cold resistance, can kill with enough time. [[Sticky Flame]] is usually too weak to kill in 1 cast, but it does reveal invisible creatures.
+**Damage-over-time effects. [[Freezing Cloud]], despite their cold resistance, can kill if the moth spends enough time in the cloud. [[Sticky Flame]] is usually too weak to kill in 1 cast, but it does negate their invisibility.
-**[[Summon Cactus Giant]]. While cactus giants lack SInv, the spines can do a lot. If the giant is in the moth's way, the moth will attack the giant, taking heavy damage (possibly killing). If needed, '''[[t]]'''ell the giant to '''r'''etreat towards a desired direction.
+**[[Summon Cactus Giant]]. While cactus giants lack SInv, the spines can do a lot. If the giant is in the moth's way, the moth will attack the giant, taking heavy damage (possibly killing the moth). If needed, '''[[t]]'''ell the giant to '''r'''etreat towards a desired direction.
 **For [[Kiku]] worshippers, [[Death Channel]]'s spectres can see invisible. You can use Unearth Wretches multiple times for each ghost moth; it's a cheap 1* ability, so don't worry about piety too much.
 **Failing that, [[evocable]]s are good MP-less ways of dealing damage. Even at 0 Evocations, using 4 charges of a [[lightning rod]] will take a huge chunk of the moth's HP. With good Evocations training, a [[condenser vane]], [[tin of tremorstones]], or attack [[wand]]s can kill / finish off a moth.
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 ==History==
 *Prior [[0.28]], ghost moths' melee attacks could inflict strong poison, making stat drain less likely.
 *Prior to [[0.16]], ghost moths could drain for 5-17 MP.