Gnoll - Revision history

Hordes: /* God Choice */

2026-01-22T17:02:10Z

‎God Choice

Hordes: /* Difficulty of Play */

2026-01-08T16:45:19Z

‎Difficulty of Play

Hordes: /* Innate Abilities */

2025-11-10T01:38:54Z

‎Innate Abilities

Hordes: bump, spell choice

2025-11-10T00:29:56Z

bump, spell choice

Hordes: /* Weapon Choice */

2025-10-13T09:02:27Z

‎Weapon Choice

Hordes: /* Notes */

2025-02-22T23:27:32Z

‎Notes

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2025-02-22T23:27:15Z

‎Strategy

Hordes: fix the math - gnolls train 29 skills, not 28

2024-03-11T18:08:09Z

fix the math - gnolls train 29 skills, not 28

Hordes: /* Difficulty of Play */

2024-03-11T17:12:53Z

‎Difficulty of Play

Patrick2011b: update to 0.31

2024-02-12T19:33:26Z

update to 0.31

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 *[[Okawaru]] is a popular god choice for Gnolls, largely due to Heroism's skill boosts. And since Gnolls can use every weapon equally well, Oka's gifts are easier to use, never requiring retraining if you get something absurdly powerful. However, the loss of allies is rougher than most other species.
 *[[Cheibriados]]ʼ stat boosts enable a Gnoll to comfortably use just about any item or spell the game throws at them, at the cost of slow movement speed. This speed penalty may be worth paying in exchange for being able to deal with practically any situation before it becomes dangerous.
-*[[Ashenzari]]'s skill boosts can help bolster your skill levels enough to make use of high-end items and spells. Curses force much stricter weapon choice than Gnolls would normally want -- but a single good weapon remains ''capable'' of killing things, if not the best. Non-encumbering armour (the majority of slots) can be cursed without restricting your weapon or spell options.
+*[[Ashenzari]]'s skill boosts can help bolster your skill levels enough to make use of high-end items and spells. While the curses will prevent weapon swapping, one good weapon is enough to win the game. [[Throw]]ables, [[wand]]s, and spells can be used as ranged options if cursing a melee weapon. Also, the majority of slots can be cursed without restricting options.
 ===Weapon Choice===

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 Gnolls are jacks of all trades, but masters of none. This is even more true than with [[Human]]s; while a Human can (and likely will) specialize in a few specific skills, a Gnoll is forced to have every skill at once. Using what the game provides you as far as items and spells is essential. On the other hand, you will always have skill for any good item you find, which makes skilling and gearing easier. Gnolls also have an easier time with triple school spells than most other races, as they train all three schools at once.
-Notably, Gnoll's nominal +8 and +6 aptitudes mean that they start with inflated skill in whatever their [[background]] provides. For example, a Gnoll [[Conjurer]] starts with 7 Conjurations skill rather than the usual 4. While largely meaningless in the endgame, it does make their starts a lot easier.
+Notably, Gnolls start with inflated skill in whatever their background provides, due to their nominal +8 and +6 aptitudes. For example, a Gnoll [[Conjurer]] starts with 7 Conjurations skill rather than the usual 4. While largely meaningless in the lategame, it does make their starts a lot easier.
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 ==Innate Abilities==
 *'''[[Distributed Training]]:''' Gnolls' experience is split equally to all skills.
-**Note that if you sacrifice a skill to [[Ru]], your other skills won't get a bigger share of the XP. In other words, all skills will get 1/30th of your XP no matter what,
+**Note that if you sacrifice a skill to [[Ru]], your other skills won't get a bigger share of the XP; any XP you would've gained is lost. In other words, all skills will get 1/30th of your XP no matter what.
 *'''[[Fangs]] 1:''' Gnolls can make an [[auxiliary attack|auxiliary bite attack]].
 *'''[[Strong Nose]]:''' Gnolls can sense the location of nearby items on the floor.

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 ''This article covers the player [[species]]. For the monster, see [[Gnoll (monster)]]. For a list of all monstrous gnolls, see [[List of gnolls]].''
 {{flavour|Gnolls are a race of caniform humanoids originally hailing from the arid deserts and grasslands of the east. In recent history they have become unusually attracted to the Dungeon, establishing tribes around and even inside of it. Unfortunately their long stay in the Dungeon has exposed their somewhat fragile minds to excessive amounts of its magic.
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 ==Innate Abilities==
 *'''[[Distributed Training]]:''' Gnolls' experience is split equally to all skills.
-**Note that if you sacrifice a skill to [[Ru]], your other skills won't get a bigger share of the XP. In other words, all skills will get 1/29ths of your XP no matter what,
+**Note that if you sacrifice a skill to [[Ru]], your other skills won't get a bigger share of the XP. In other words, all skills will get 1/30th of your XP no matter what,
 *'''[[Fangs]] 1:''' Gnolls can make an [[auxiliary attack|auxiliary bite attack]].
 *'''[[Strong Nose]]:''' Gnolls can sense the location of nearby items on the floor.
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 *[[Scrolls of enchant weapon]] represent a form of dedication. A good base weapon that's well enchanted and branded (+6 [[spectral (brand)|spectral]] [[broad axe]], [[eveningstar]], demon weapons, etc.) will remain viable throughout a 3-rune game. Don't fret too much about which specific weapon it is.
 **If you find a strong artefact (especially certain [[unrand]]s), it's probably worth using.
 ==Notes==
-In terms of skill training, Gnolls train their +8 skills as if a Human were training a single skill at 13.8%. They train their +6 skills as if a Human were training a single skill at 9.75%.<!-- Simple math: 29 skills, 1/29 * 2^(8/4) and 1/29 * 2^(6/4), respectively -->
+In terms of skill training, Gnolls train their +8 skills as if a Human were training a single skill at 13.33%. They train their +6 skills as if a Human were training a single skill at 9.43%.<!-- Simple math: 30 skills, 1/30 * 2^(8/4) and 1/30 * 2^(6/4), respectively -->
-In other words: a Gnoll's +8 aptitude is equal to training a single skill at a -11.43 aptitude, two skills at a -7.43 aptitude, four skills at a -3.43 aptitude, and so on. The +6 aptitudes are equal to a single skill at a -13.43 aptitude, two skills at a -9.43 aptitude, and so on.
+In other words: a Gnoll's +8 aptitude is equal to training a single skill at a -11.64 aptitude, two skills at a -7.64 aptitude, four skills at a -3.64 aptitude, and so on. The +6 aptitudes are equal to a single skill at a -13.63 aptitude, two skills at a -9.63 aptitude, and so on.
 ==History==

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 Gnolls have a unique dilemma - ''what exactly do I use''? Here are a few points on melee weapons:
 *The main thing to keep in mind is attack delay - you largely want to keep it at or below 1.0. Above that, and you risk normal speed enemies double-hitting you. You can press '''@''' to see the delay with your current weapon.
-*[[Dagger]]s are a useful swap-out when you want to [[stab]], whether you're sneaking up on your foes or using [[Hexes]] or [[wand]]s to give yourself opportunities.
+*[[Dagger]]s and [[quick blade]]s are a useful swap-out when you want to [[stab]], whether you're sneaking up on your foes or using [[Hexes]] or [[wand]]s to give yourself opportunities.
 *Artefacts aren't necessarily better than a regular branded weapon, but they might come with a nice [[brand]] or some neat properties.
 *Gnolls more often than not prefer wearing some sort of shield. They already train the Shields skill, and two-handed weapons demand high skill levels that Gnolls won't get to. [[Buckler]]s and [[orb]]s are universally useful, while [[kite shield]]s are good if you can cast necessary spells reliably in them.

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 *[[Dagger]]s are a useful swap-out when you want to [[stab]], whether you're sneaking up on your foes or using [[Hexes]] or [[wand]]s to give yourself opportunities.
 *Artefacts aren't necessarily better than a regular branded weapon, but they might come with a nice [[brand]] or some neat properties.
-*Gnolls more often than not prefer wearing some sort of shield. They already train the Shields skill, and two-handed weapons demand high skill levels that Gnolls can't compete with. [[Buckler]]s and [[orb]]s are universally useful, while [[kite shield]]s are good if you can cast necessary spells reliably in them.
+*Gnolls more often than not prefer wearing some sort of shield. They already train the Shields skill, and two-handed weapons demand high skill levels that Gnolls won't get to. [[Buckler]]s and [[orb]]s are universally useful, while [[kite shield]]s are good if you can cast necessary spells reliably in them.
 ====Early Dungeon====
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 ====Later Options====
 *Aim for fast, low skill upgrades: [[Demon whip]]s, [[demon trident]]s, and [[demon blade]]s are all effective in terms of power, speed, and skill. Good non-demonic weapons include [[morningstar]]s, [[eveningstar]]s, and [[scimitar]]s. And [[Axes]] are always useful thanks to their [[cleave]].
-*With a strong [[talisman]], like [[blade talisman|blade]] or [[granite talisman|granite]], you may consider [[Unarmed Combat]] - though Gnoll's low skill makes UC a weaker choice without Okawaru.
+*With a strong [[talisman]], like [[blade talisman|blade]] or [[granite talisman|granite]], you may consider [[Unarmed Combat]]. Their inability to focus on the UC skill hurts, but is still passible.
 *[[Scrolls of enchant weapon]] represent a form of dedication. A good base weapon that's well enchanted and branded (+6 [[spectral (brand)|spectral]] [[broad axe]], [[eveningstar]], demon weapons, etc.) will remain viable throughout a 3-rune game. Don't fret too much about which specific weapon it is.
 **If you find a strong artefact (especially certain [[unrand]]s), it's probably worth using.

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 {{Beginner}}
-Gnolls are jacks of all trades, but masters of none. This is even more true than with [[Human]]s; a human has the choice to (and likely will) invest in a few specific skills. Using what the game provides you as far as items and spells is essential. On the other hand, you will always have skill for any good item you find, which makes skilling and gearing easier. Gnolls also have an easier time with triple school spells than most other races, as they train all three schools at once.
+Gnolls are jacks of all trades, but masters of none. This is even more true than with [[Human]]s; while a Human can (and likely will) specialize in a few specific skills, a Gnoll is forced to have every skill at once. Using what the game provides you as far as items and spells is essential. On the other hand, you will always have skill for any good item you find, which makes skilling and gearing easier. Gnolls also have an easier time with triple school spells than most other races, as they train all three schools at once.
 Notably, Gnoll's nominal +8 and +6 aptitudes mean that they start with inflated skill in whatever their [[background]] provides. For example, a Gnoll [[Conjurer]] starts with 7 Conjurations skill rather than the usual 4. While largely meaningless in the endgame, it does make their starts a lot easier.

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 ''This article covers the player [[species]]. For the monster, see [[Gnoll (monster)]]. For a list of all monstrous gnolls, see [[List of gnolls]].''
 {{flavour|Gnolls are a race of caniform humanoids originally hailing from the arid deserts and grasslands of the east. In recent history they have become unusually attracted to the Dungeon, establishing tribes around and even inside of it. Unfortunately their long stay in the Dungeon has exposed their somewhat fragile minds to excessive amounts of its magic.
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 ==Preferred Backgrounds==
-*'''Adventurer:'''  [[Wanderer]]
+*'''Zealots:''' [[Cinder Acolyte]]
-*'''Warrior-mages:''' [[Transmuter]], [[Warper]], [[Hexslinger]], [[Reaver]]
+*'''Adventurers:''' [[Shapeshifter]], [[Wanderer]]
 ==Level Bonuses==
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 ====Later Options====
 *Aim for fast, low skill upgrades: [[Demon whip]]s, [[demon trident]]s, and [[demon blade]]s are all effective in terms of power, speed, and skill. Good non-demonic weapons include [[morningstar]]s, [[eveningstar]]s, and [[scimitar]]s. And [[Axes]] are always useful thanks to their [[cleave]].
-*With a strong [[Transmutation]], like [[Blade Hands]] or [[Statue Form]], you may consider [[Unarmed Combat]] - though Gnoll's low skill makes UC a weaker choice without Okawaru.
+*With a strong [[talisman]], like [[blade talisman|blade]] or [[granite talisman|granite]], you may consider [[Unarmed Combat]] - though Gnoll's low skill makes UC a weaker choice without Okawaru.
-*[[Scrolls of enchant weapon]] represent a form of dedication. A good base weapon that's well enchanted and branded (+6 [[vorpal]] [[broad axe]], [[eveningstar]], demon weapons, etc.) will remain viable throughout a 3-rune game. Don't fret too much about which specific weapon it is.
+*[[Scrolls of enchant weapon]] represent a form of dedication. A good base weapon that's well enchanted and branded (+6 [[spectral (brand)|spectral]] [[broad axe]], [[eveningstar]], demon weapons, etc.) will remain viable throughout a 3-rune game. Don't fret too much about which specific weapon it is.
 **If you find a strong artefact (especially certain [[unrand]]s), it's probably worth using.