Great sword - Revision history

Hordes at 18:26, 15 June 2023

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‎Strategy

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‎Strategy

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‎Strategy: scimitars deal much less than a great sword

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‎Strategy

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rewrite

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‎History

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 Great swords are rarely found on the Dungeon floor. However, they can occasionally generate on enemy [[wight]]s, [[orc warrior]]s, [[orc knight]]s, and a few other enemies.
-You may prefer a [[demon blade]] or [[double sword]]; they deal slightly less damage, but can be worn with a [[shield]]. However, both weapons are much rarer. The great sword is considerably stronger than other one-handed Long Blades (such as the [[scimitar]]).
+You may prefer a [[demon blade]] or [[double sword]]; they deal slightly less damage, but can be worn with a [[shield]]. However, both weapons are rarer. The great sword is considerably stronger than other one-handed Long Blades (such as the [[scimitar]]).
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 Great swords are rarely found on the Dungeon floor. However, they can occasionally generate on enemy [[wight]]s, [[orc warrior]]s, [[orc knight]]s, and a few other enemies.
-You may prefer a [[demon blade]] or [[double sword]]; they deal slightly less damage, but can be worn with a [[shield]]. However, both weapons are rarer than the great sword. The great sword is considerably stronger than other one-handed Long Blades (such as the [[scimitar]]).
+You may prefer a [[demon blade]] or [[double sword]]; they deal slightly less damage, but can be worn with a [[shield]]. However, both weapons are much rarer. The great sword is considerably stronger than other one-handed Long Blades (such as the [[scimitar]]).
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 Great swords are rarely found on the Dungeon floor. However, they can occasionally generate on enemy [[wight]]s, [[orc warrior]]s, [[orc knight]]s, and a few other enemies.
-You may prefer a [[demon blade]] or [[double sword]]; they deal slightly less damage, but can be worn with a [[shield]]. However, both weapons are rarer than the great sword. The [[scimitar]] is a more common one-hander, though there is a significant damage difference between scimitar and great sword.
+You may prefer a [[demon blade]] or [[double sword]]; they deal slightly less damage, but can be worn with a [[shield]]. However, both weapons are rarer than the great sword. The great sword is considerably stronger than other one-handed Long Blades (such as the [[scimitar]]).
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 Great swords are rarely found on the Dungeon floor. However, they can occasionally generate on enemy [[wight]]s, [[orc warrior]]s, [[orc knight]]s, and a few other enemies.
-You may prefer a [[demon blade]], [[double sword]], or even a [[scimitar]]. These weapons deal slightly less damage, but can be worn with a [[shield]].
+You may prefer a [[demon blade]] or [[double sword]]; they deal slightly less damage, but can be worn with a [[shield]]. However, both weapons are rarer than the great sword. The [[scimitar]] is a more common one-hander, though there is a significant damage difference between scimitar and great sword.
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 ==Strategy==
-Great swords are rarely found on the Dungeon floor. However, they can occasionally generate on enemy [[wight]]s, [[orc warrior]]s, and [[orc knight]]s.
+Great swords are rarely found on the Dungeon floor. However, they can occasionally generate on enemy [[wight]]s, [[orc warrior]]s, [[orc knight]]s, and a few other enemies.
 You may prefer a [[demon blade]], [[double sword]], or even a [[scimitar]]. These weapons deal slightly less damage, but can be worn with a [[shield]].

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 {{weapon
   |name      = Great sword
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 {{crawlquote|This weapon falls into the '[[Long Blades]]' category. It is a two handed weapon.}}
-'''Great swords''' are large, two-handed [[Long Blades]] that deal heavy damage, though they require a significant amount of Long Blades skill to reach min delay. Characters with experience to spare may eventually wish to upgrade to a [[triple sword]]. Alternatively, wielding a [[demon blade]]/[[eudemon blade]]/[[double sword]] instead will allow you to use a [[shields|shield]] in exchange for slightly lower damage.
+'''Great swords''' are large, two handed [[Long Blades]] that deal good damage, though they require high Long Blades skill to reach minimum delay. [[Triple sword]]s are stronger, but considerably rarer.
-Great swords are uncommon items to find lying around the Dungeon, but occasionally generate on enemy [[wight]]s and [[orc warrior]]s early on.
+==Strategy==
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 ==History==
 *In [[0.28]], Long Blades lost [[riposte]]. Damage was increased back to pre-riposte levels.
-*In [[0.19]], Long Blades gained riposte. All Long Blades were reduced by 1 base damage to compensate.
+*In [[0.19]], Long Blades gained riposte. Great swords were reduced by 2 base damage to compensate.
 *In very early versions of ''Crawl'', these (and triple swords) were governed by [[Great swords|their own skill]].
 {{weapons}}
 [[Category:Long blades]]

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 {{weapon
   |name      = Great sword
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   |weight    = 25.0
   |skill     = Long Blades
-  |damage    = 15
+  |damage    = 17
   |accuracy  = -3
   |basedelay = 17 (170%)
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 ==History==
-In very early versions of ''Crawl'', these (and triple swords) were governed by [[Great swords|their own skill]].
+*The great sword's base damage was reduced to 15 when [[riposte]] was added in [[0.19]], then buffed back when it was removed from long blades in [[0.28]].
 {{weapons}}
 [[Category:Long blades]]