Identification - Revision history

Ge0ff at 12:52, 13 March 2024

2024-03-13T12:52:39Z

Ge0ff: reword: you can't use an ?id on a glowing item

2024-03-13T12:42:13Z

reword: you can't use an ?id on a glowing item

Hordes: re-mention Ash

2024-03-12T18:26:56Z

re-mention Ash

Hordes: /* Read-ID */

2024-03-12T16:09:00Z

‎Read-ID

Hordes: /* Read-ID */

2024-03-12T16:03:41Z

‎Read-ID

Hordes: /* Potions & Scrolls */ mention why a player should blind read

2024-03-12T03:25:22Z

‎Potions & Scrolls: mention why a player should blind read

Hordes: /* Read-ID */

2024-03-12T02:53:25Z

‎Read-ID

Hordes: /* All Other Items */

2024-03-12T02:52:38Z

‎All Other Items

Hordes at 02:50, 12 March 2024

2024-03-12T02:50:45Z

Hordes: full rewrite

2024-03-12T02:47:35Z

full rewrite

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 *All potions and scrolls are identified when used, even if they didn't do anything.
-Using an unknown item "blind" will let you identify it faster, but it generally wastes the item you just used. This can be a good thing, since an identified item can help you survive a situation you otherwise would've died in. In any case, some amount of blind use is practically required. This is because scrolls of identify are unknown, meaning you'll have to blind read until you reveal scrolls of identify in the first place.
+Using an unknown item "blind" will let you identify it faster, but it generally wastes the item you just used. This can be a good thing, since an identified item can help you survive a situation you otherwise would've died in. In any case, some amount of blind use is practically required. This is because scrolls of identify are initially unknown too, meaning you'll have to blind read until you reveal scrolls of identify in the first place.
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 *Be on an ''un''explored level, standing directly on the stairs leading to a clear level.
 **Being on an unexplored level makes the most out of a [[scroll of revelation]].
-**Being on an upstairs lets you retreat in case you read a [[scroll of teleportation]] or a harmful scroll like [[scroll of noise|noise]].
+**Being on an upstairs lets you retreat in case you read a [[scroll of teleportation]] or a dangerous scroll like [[scroll of noise|noise]].
 *Make sure that no monsters - allied or hostile - are in your [[line of sight]]. This way, you won't blow yourself up with a [[scroll of immolation]].
 *You carry at least one enchantable weapon, preferably one you want to [[brand]] or replace the brand of. This makes the most out of [[scrolls of enchant weapon|enchant weapon]] and [[scroll of brand weapon|brand weapon]].

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-Some items have unknown properties, which can be revealed by '''identification'''. For example, you won't know what a ''murky blue'' [[potion]] does or what a ''glowing'' [[short sword]] is until they are identified. A [[scroll of identify]] is the easiest way to do this, but there are a few other methods as well.
+Some items have unknown properties, which can be revealed by '''identification'''. For example, you won't know what a ''murky blue'' [[potion]] does or what a ''glowing'' [[short sword]] is until they are identified. A [[scroll of identify]] is the easiest way to check some items, but there are a few other methods as well.
 Press '''\''' for a list of items already identified. While viewing the list, the command '''-''' will toggle the view to items you have not yet identified.

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 *If you buy an item from a non-antique [[shop]], then it will be identified.
 **You can buy unidentified harmful items (such as [[potions of degeneration]] and [[scrolls of noise]]) in order to ID them.
 *Certain pre-generated [[vault]]s may come with items already identified. For example, there is a [[faded altar]] vault with a [[scroll of immolation]] on top of it. If you come across this specific vault, then upon seeing the vault, you'll automatically identify scrolls of immolation for the rest of the game.
 *If there is only 1 unidentified item of a type (i.e. you find the last unidentified [[potion]] or [[scroll]]), it will be identified for you on sight.

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 If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.
-'''*''' This depends on how you found the scroll. If you find 1 copy of a scroll somewhere, and then find the another copy of the same scroll elsewhere, it's more likely to be a common scroll than usual. But if you find 2-3 copies of a scroll in the same place, it is no more likely to be a common scroll.
+('''*'''It depends on how you found the scrolls. If you find 1 copy of a scroll somewhere, and then find the another copy of the same scroll elsewhere, it's more likely to be a common scroll. But if you find 2-3 copies of a scroll in the same tile, it is no more likely to be a common scroll than usual. This also applies to potions.)
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	If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.		If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.
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		+	'''*''' This depends on how you found the scroll. If you find 1 copy of a scroll somewhere, and then find the another copy of the same scroll elsewhere, it's more likely to be a common scroll than usual. But if you find 2-3 copies of a scroll in the same place, it is no more likely to be a common scroll.

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 If you want to optimize "blind" scroll reading, maximizing safety, you should:
 *Be on an ''un''explored level, standing directly on the stairs leading to a clear level.
-**Being on an unexplored level makes the most out of [[scrolls of revelation]].
+**Being on an unexplored level makes the most out of a [[scroll of revelation]].
 **Being on an upstairs lets you retreat in case you read a [[scroll of teleportation]], [[scroll of noise|noise]], or other harmful scrolls.
 *Make sure that no monsters - allied or hostile - are in your [[line of sight]]. This way, you won't blow yourself up with a [[scroll of immolation]].
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 These conditions can be adjusted as your knowledge improves. If you've already identified scrolls of revelation, then you don't need to use scrolls on an unexplored level. If you've identified most scrolls, you might want to stop blind reading, since you're likely to 'waste' a rare scroll.
 If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.
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 ==All Other Items==
-Each individual piece of equipment ([[armour]], [[weapon]]s, [[jewellery]]) is identified immediately and completely when you occupy its tile. Each instance of a gear needs to be identified: if you identify an artefact [[whip]], you won't automatically identify other artefact whips until you occupy their tiles.
+Each individual piece of equipment ([[armour]], [[weapon]]s, [[jewellery]]) is identified immediately and completely when you occupy its tile (or when you buy the item). Each instance of a gear item needs to be identified: if you identify an artefact [[whip]], you won't automatically identify other artefact whips.
 [[Wand]]s are also identified when stepping on their tile. After identifying a wand, all other wands of that type are identified immediately on sight.

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-Some items have unknown properties, which can be revealed by '''identification'''. For example, you won't know what a ''murky blue'' [[potion]] does or what a ''glowing'' [[short sword]] is until they are identified. A [[scroll of identification]] is the most obvious way, but there are a few other methods as well.
+Some items have unknown properties, which can be revealed by '''identification'''. For example, you won't know what a ''murky blue'' [[potion]] does or what a ''glowing'' [[short sword]] is until they are identified. A [[scroll of identify]] is the easiest way to do this, but there are a few other methods as well.
 Press '''\''' for a list of items already identified. While viewing the list, the command '''-''' will toggle the view to items you have not yet identified.
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-Using a scroll of identify is always safe, but reading unknown scrolls can be dangerous, because some scrolls have negative effects. At the same time, you'll want to maximize the positive effects of scrolls you do read.
+Using a scroll of identify is always safe, but reading unknown scrolls can be dangerous, because some scrolls have negative effects. At the same time, you'll want to maximize the positive effects of the scrolls you do read.
-If you really want to optimize "blind" scroll reading, you should:
+If you want to optimize "blind" scroll reading, maximizing safety, you should:
 *Be on an ''un''explored level, standing directly on the stairs leading to a clear level.
 **Being on an unexplored level makes the most out of [[scrolls of revelation]].
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 *You carry at least one enchantable weapon, preferably one you want to [[brand]] or replace the brand of. This makes the most out of [[scrolls of enchant weapon|enchant weapon]] and [[scroll of brand weapon|brand weapon]].
-Also, you should test the most numerous unknown scrolls you have first. Usually, you'll be more likely to identify common scrolls, such as identify and teleport.'''*''' In addition, you'll have more copies of that scroll available to use. (If you read a scroll you have 5 copies of, after reading, you'll have 4 copies of a useful scroll. If you read a scroll you only have 1 copy of, you've identified the scroll, but now you have no copies of that scroll - not very helpful!)
+Also, you should test the most numerous unknown scrolls you have first. Usually, you'll be more likely to identify common scrolls, such as identify and teleport.'''*''' In addition, you'll have more copies of that scroll available to use. (If you read a scroll you have 5 copies of, after reading, you'll have 4 copies of a potentially useful scroll. If you read a scroll you only have 1 copy of, you've identified the scroll, but now you have no copies of that scroll - not very helpful!)
 These conditions can be adjusted as your knowledge improves. If you've already identified scrolls of revelation, then you don't need to use scrolls on an unexplored level. If you've identified most scrolls, you might want to stop blind reading, since you're likely to 'waste' a rare scroll.
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 If you are in danger and have nothing better, it's generally better to drink unknown potions than scrolls. Consider the following list:
 *Scrolls that can often help win/escape fights: Teleportation, blinking, fear, summoning/butterflies.
-**If you aren't adjacent to any foe and have a ranged attack: immolation.
+**If you aren't adjacent to any foe and have a ranged attack: immolation, poison.
 *Potions that can often help win/escape fights: Curing, heal wounds, might, haste, lignification, invisibility, berserk rage.
-There are more potions that help you resolve danger than scrolls. However, this can change depending on what you've identified. If you've already identified potions of heal wounds, haste, and lignification, then scrolls become better.
+For most characters, there are more potions that help you resolve danger than scrolls. However, this can change depending on what you've identified. If you've already identified many types of emergency potions, then scrolls become better.
 ===Other ways to ID===