Ignite Poison - Revision history

Hordes: /* Useful Info */

2025-11-03T05:29:07Z

‎Useful Info

Hordes at 10:03, 26 October 2025

2025-10-26T10:03:19Z

Ge0ff: Undo revision 80653 by Kernmantle (talk) It does clear all poison if the target survives, see new src link

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Undo revision 80653 by Kernmantle (talk) It does clear all poison if the target survives, see new src link

Kernmantle: /* Useful Info */ Ignite Poison does not instantly clear poison status

2024-07-05T20:05:15Z

‎Useful Info: Ignite Poison does not instantly clear poison status

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2024-01-15T13:07:32Z

‎Strategy

Hordes: update

2024-01-15T10:28:37Z

update

Slobodan: /* Strategy */ poisonous vapors is level 2, not 3

2023-11-27T09:02:23Z

‎Strategy: poisonous vapors is level 2, not 3

Hordes at 07:33, 17 September 2023

2023-09-17T07:33:02Z

Ge0ff at 14:05, 25 August 2023

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Ge0ff at 14:04, 25 August 2023

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 ==Useful Info==
-All poisoned monsters in line of sight take [[fire]] damage and lose their poisoned status.<ref>{{source ref|0.31.0|spl-damage.cc|2138}}</ref> All poisonous clouds and noxious fumes (i.e. mephitic clouds) in the caster's [[line of sight]] are replaced with flame clouds. Tiles affected by [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]] have a chance to create short-lived flame clouds.
+All poisoned monsters in line of sight take [[fire]] damage and lose their poisoned status.<ref>{{source ref|0.31.0|spl-damage.cc|2138}}</ref> All poisonous clouds and noxious fumes (i.e. mephitic clouds) in the caster's [[line of sight]] are replaced with flame clouds. Tiles affected by [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]] are not reverted and have a chance to create short-lived flame clouds.
 Higher [[spell power]] increases the duration of the flame clouds and the damage taken by poisoned creatures.

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 Ignite Poison deals heavy, unavoidable fire damage to every poisoned creature in sight.
-*With [[Mercury Vapours]], it becomes a strong, reliable, and reasonably MP efficient way to kill lone monsters. While it deals less damage/turn than something like [[Iron Shot]], Ignite Poison never misses, ignores AC, and saves MP.
+*With [[Poisonous Vapours]], it becomes a high damage, never missing attack which is more MP efficient than similar Conjurations.
-*With [[Olgreb's Toxic Radiance]], it's strong against whole groups. It's Mercury Vapours, but applied to everything on screen.
+*With [[Olgreb's Toxic Radiance]], it's strong against whole groups, able to attack the whole screen.
-*With [[Mephitic Cloud]], it will create flame clouds. While not as impressive as the above effects, it can deal decent damage after you've confused an enemy.
+*With [[Mephitic Cloud]] and [[Alistair's Walking Alembic]], it will create flame clouds, which can damage those immune to poison.
 *Particularly great with [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]], which inflicts high amounts of poison, even against those with poison resistance.

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 ==Useful Info==
-All poisoned monsters in line of sight take [[fire]] damage, based on their level of poisoning.  All poisonous clouds and noxious fumes (i.e. mephitic clouds) in the caster's [[line of sight]] are replaced with flame clouds. Tiles affected by [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]] have a chance to create short-lived flame clouds.
+All poisoned monsters in line of sight take [[fire]] damage and lose their poisoned status.<ref>{{source ref|0.31.0|spl-damage.cc|2138}}</ref> All poisonous clouds and noxious fumes (i.e. mephitic clouds) in the caster's [[line of sight]] are replaced with flame clouds. Tiles affected by [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]] have a chance to create short-lived flame clouds.
 Higher [[spell power]] increases the duration of the flame clouds and the damage taken by poisoned creatures.

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 ==Useful Info==
-All poisoned monsters in line of sight take [[fire]] damage and lose their poisoned status.  All poisonous clouds and noxious fumes (i.e. mephitic clouds) in the caster's [[line of sight]] are replaced with flame clouds. Tiles affected by [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]] have a chance to create short-lived flame clouds.
+All poisoned monsters in line of sight take [[fire]] damage, based on their level of poisoning.  All poisonous clouds and noxious fumes (i.e. mephitic clouds) in the caster's [[line of sight]] are replaced with flame clouds. Tiles affected by [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]] have a chance to create short-lived flame clouds.
 Higher [[spell power]] increases the duration of the flame clouds and the damage taken by poisoned creatures.

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 Ignite Poison deals heavy, unavoidable fire damage to every poisoned creature in sight.
-*With [[Mercury Vapours]], it becomes strong, reliable, and reasonably MP efficient way to kill lone monsters. While it deals less damage/turn than something like [[Iron Shot]], Ignite Poison never misses, ignores AC, and saves MP.
+*With [[Mercury Vapours]], it becomes a strong, reliable, and reasonably MP efficient way to kill lone monsters. While it deals less damage/turn than something like [[Iron Shot]], Ignite Poison never misses, ignores AC, and saves MP.
 *With [[Olgreb's Toxic Radiance]], it's strong against whole groups. It's Mercury Vapours, but applied to everything on screen.
 *With [[Mephitic Cloud]], it will create flame clouds. While not as impressive as the above effects, it can deal decent damage after you've confused an enemy.

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-'''Ignite Poison''' is a level 3 [[Fire Magic|Fire]]/[[Transmutations|Transmutation]]/[[Poison Magic|Poison]] spell which causes all nearby [[poisoned]] creatures and poisonous [[cloud]]s to burst into flames.
+'''Ignite Poison''' is a level 4 [[Fire Magic|Fire]]/[[Alchemy]] spell which causes all nearby [[poisoned]] creatures and poisonous [[cloud]]s to burst into flames.
 ==Useful Info==
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 **Duration of the flame clouds from Noxious Bog is instead <code>1 + 1d(1 + <power>/30)</code> turns (2-5 turns).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|spl-damage.cc|2013}}</ref>
-Note that the spell can't affect monsters with fire immunity, e.g., [[lava snake]]s or [[salamander]]s. Casting the spell won't damage them, and they will retain their poison.
+Note that the spell can't affect monsters with fire immunity, e.g., [[lava snake]]s or [[salamander]]s. Casting the spell won't damage them, and they will retain their poison. It will still affect clouds under these monsters, however.
 ==Strategy==
 Ignite Poison deals heavy, unavoidable fire damage to every poisoned creature in sight.
-*With [[Poisonous Vapours]], it's strong against single targets. It's also MP-efficient, especially compared to [[Conjurations]] spells like [[Iron Shot]].
+*With [[Mercury Vapours]], it becomes strong, reliable, and reasonably MP efficient way to kill lone monsters. While it deals less damage/turn than something like [[Iron Shot]], Ignite Poison never misses, ignores AC, and saves MP.
-: For reference: At 30 power, casting Vapours x2 -> Ignite Poison consistently deals 8d13 damage (avg. 56).<ref>Poisonous Vapours inflicts <code>pow/15</code> "stacks" of poison, so Ignite Poison deals <code>(8)d(12 + pow/16.6)</code> damage.</ref> [[Iron Shot]] at 70 power deals 9d7 damage (avg. 36), and [[Plasma Beam]] deals 2d53 (avg. 54). While the former takes 3 turns to pull off, Poisonous Vapours has a number of advantages - it is [[smite-targeted]], never misses, ignores AC, has full [[LOS]] range, and ''it's a level 2 spell''.
+*With [[Olgreb's Toxic Radiance]], it's strong against whole groups. It's Mercury Vapours, but applied to everything on screen.
-*With [[Olgreb's Toxic Radiance]], it's strong against whole groups. Imagine Poisonous Vapours, but applied to everything on the screen.
+The biggest downside is that Ignite Poison relies on poison, making it worse against enemies with poison resistance. It is also somewhat poor with turn economy. Otherwise, Ignite Poison is a very strong spell, usable even in the late game.
 ===Tips & Tricks===
 *It doesn't matter where the poison clouds come from, they'll be turned into fire. You can turn a [[swamp drake]]'s or [[swamp dragon]]'s breath against it. You can ignite clouds from a [[scroll of poison]] - just make sure you have no immediate plans to move anywhere. Can also convert clouds from a low-power [[condenser vane]].
 *Ignite Poison doesn't count as a fiery beam; it doesn't create [[steam]] clouds on water, and it won't get rid of [[freezing vapour]]s.
-*[[Vehumet]] considers this spell destructive; [[Venom Mage]]s looking for this spell should consider worshipping this god.
+*[[Vehumet]] considers this spell destructive; [[Alchemist]]s looking for this spell should consider worshipping this god.
 ==History==
 *[[Venom Mage]]s started with this spell in [[0.25]] and [[0.26]].
 *Prior to [[0.18]], Salamander mystics had [[Localized Ignite Poison]] in their spellset.

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 Higher [[spell power]] increases the duration of the flame clouds and the damage taken by poisoned creatures.
-*Poisoned creatures take direct damage according to how many [[Poison#Monster Formula|poison stacks]] they have, dealing approximately 200%-300% of the potential poison damage immediately, depending on spell power.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|spl-damage.cc|2095}}<br>Specifically, Ignite Poison deals <code>(Stacks * 2)</code>d<code>(12 + 6*pow/100)</code> damage. At maximum poison (4 stacks; "extremely poisoned"), this ranges from 8d12 to 8d18 damage. Like poison damage, it ignores [[AC]].</ref>
+*Poisoned creatures take direct damage according to how many [[Poison#Monster Formula|poison stacks]] they have, dealing approximately 200%-300% of the potential poison damage immediately, depending on spell power.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|spl-damage.cc|2095}}<br>Specifically, Ignite Poison deals <code>(Stacks * 2)</code>d<code>(12 + 6*pow/100)</code> damage. At maximum poison (4 stacks; "extremely poisoned"), this ranges from 8d12 to 8d18. Like poison damage, this spell ignores [[AC]].</ref>
 *Duration of the flame clouds from poison and noxious clouds is <code>3 + (1d(20 + <power>) - 1) / 10</code> turns<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|spl-damage.cc|2051}}</ref>—that is, from 3-5 turns to 3-15 turns.
 **Duration of the flame clouds from Noxious Bog is instead <code>1 + 1d(1 + <power>/30)</code> turns (2-5 turns).<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|spl-damage.cc|2013}}</ref>