Instadeath - Revision history

Hordes: unlike turning a corner, when going down, it's likely that there's multiple enemies

2024-02-27T04:24:02Z

unlike turning a corner, when going down, it's likely that there's multiple enemies

Hordes: /* Player Instadeath */

2024-02-27T04:20:37Z

‎Player Instadeath

Hordes: mention stairs

2024-02-27T04:19:18Z

mention stairs

Ge0ff at 19:40, 25 February 2024

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Hordes at 03:09, 24 February 2024

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Hordes at 03:01, 24 February 2024

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Hordes at 02:53, 24 February 2024

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Hordes: /* Player Instadeath */

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‎Player Instadeath

Hordes: /* Player Instadeath */

2024-01-15T06:37:58Z

‎Player Instadeath

Hordes: the Z:5 instakill can happen w/o klowns

2024-01-15T06:37:35Z

the Z:5 instakill can happen w/o klowns

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 There are a few situations where a player can die from 100% health, in a single turn, through no fault of their own:
 *You can step around a corner into an enemy that can one-shot you. Any character with less than ~35 HP can get one-shot by an [[ogre (monster)|ogre]]; anyone with less than ~75 HP can die to a [[two-headed ogre]]. [[Grinder]] can [[paralyse]] you for 5 turns, then cast [[Pain]] five times for 5 x 1d14 damage, dealing up to 70 damage.
-*If you have already visited a floor before, you can descend up/down the [[stair]]s into an enemy that can one-shot you. This chance is significantly lower for 'fast' stairs (stairs with unknown destination), but still present so long as you've visited the floor.
+*If you have already visited a floor before, you can descend up/down the [[stair]]s into an enemy (or group of enemies) that can one-shot you. This chance is significantly lower for 'fast' stairs (stairs with unknown destination), but still present so long as you've visited the floor.
 *When you are teleported by [[malevolent force]], any monsters at your destination may get to attack before you get a turn to respond. If there are too many and/or too strong monsters at your destination, you can die before you get a single turn to respond. For example, a D:10 character could be teleported next to an out-of-depth [[storm dragon]], get [[doublezap]]ped for 114 damage, and die. Or you could be teleported into [[Zot:5]], and simply take too much damage from a group of [[ancient lich]]es and [[orbs of fire]].
 *When an [[ironbound convoker]] completes a [[Word of Recall]], recalled monsters may get to attack before you can respond. This usually isn't lethal, but Word of Recall can bring monsters from sealed [[vault]]s. If the convoker brings 2 [[ancient lich]]es, and each lich casts a 144 damage [[crystal spear]], you'll just die. (It's possible to stop Word of Recall through [[silence]] or a [[phial of floods]], but these may not always be available.)

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 There are a few situations where a player can die from 100% health, in a single turn, through no fault of their own:
 *You can step around a corner into an enemy that can one-shot you. Any character with less than ~35 HP can get one-shot by an [[ogre (monster)|ogre]]; anyone with less than ~75 HP can die to a [[two-headed ogre]]. [[Grinder]] can [[paralyse]] you for 5 turns, then cast [[Pain]] five times for 5 x 1d14 damage, dealing up to 70 damage.
-*If you have already visited a floor before, you can descend down the stairs into an enemy that can one-shot you. This chance is significantly lower for 'fast' stairs (stairs with unknown destination), but still present if you've visited the floor.
+*If you have already visited a floor before, you can descend up/down the [[stair]]s into an enemy that can one-shot you. This chance is significantly lower for 'fast' stairs (stairs with unknown destination), but still present so long as you've visited the floor.
 *When you are teleported by [[malevolent force]], any monsters at your destination may get to attack before you get a turn to respond. If there are too many and/or too strong monsters at your destination, you can die before you get a single turn to respond. For example, a D:10 character could be teleported next to an out-of-depth [[storm dragon]], get [[doublezap]]ped for 114 damage, and die. Or you could be teleported into [[Zot:5]], and simply take too much damage from a group of [[ancient lich]]es and [[orbs of fire]].
 *When an [[ironbound convoker]] completes a [[Word of Recall]], recalled monsters may get to attack before you can respond. This usually isn't lethal, but Word of Recall can bring monsters from sealed [[vault]]s. If the convoker brings 2 [[ancient lich]]es, and each lich casts a 144 damage [[crystal spear]], you'll just die. (It's possible to stop Word of Recall through [[silence]] or a [[phial of floods]], but these may not always be available.)

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 There are a few situations where a player can die from 100% health, in a single turn, through no fault of their own:
-*You can step around a corner into an enemy that can one-shot you. Any character with less than ~35 HP can get one-shot by an [[ogre (monster)|ogre]]; anyone with less than ~75 HP can die to a [[two-headed ogre]].
+*You can step around a corner into an enemy that can one-shot you. Any character with less than ~35 HP can get one-shot by an [[ogre (monster)|ogre]]; anyone with less than ~75 HP can die to a [[two-headed ogre]]. [[Grinder]] can [[paralyse]] you for 5 turns, then cast [[Pain]] five times for 5 x 1d14 damage, dealing up to 70 damage.
-*When teleported by [[malevolent force]], any monsters at your destination may get to attack before you get a turn to respond. If there are too many and/or too strong monsters at your destination, you can die before you get a single turn to respond. For example, a D:10 character could be teleported next to an out-of-depth [[storm dragon]], get [[doublezap]]ped for 114 damage, and die. Or you could be teleported into [[Zot:5]], and simply take too much damage from a group of [[ancient lich]]es and [[orbs of fire]].
+*If you have already visited a floor before, you can descend down the stairs into an enemy that can one-shot you. This chance is significantly lower for 'fast' stairs (stairs with unknown destination), but still present if you've visited the floor.
 *When an [[ironbound convoker]] completes a [[Word of Recall]], recalled monsters may get to attack before you can respond. This usually isn't lethal, but Word of Recall can bring monsters from sealed [[vault]]s. If the convoker brings 2 [[ancient lich]]es, and each lich casts a 144 damage [[crystal spear]], you'll just die. (It's possible to stop Word of Recall through [[silence]] or a [[phial of floods]], but these may not always be available.)

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 The term '''instadeath''' (or '''instakill''') often refers to a [[death]] that happens instantly or very quickly. For example, an early [[ogre (monster)|ogre]] killing a low level [[Spriggan]] in one hit.
-It is also used to described deaths which occur regardless of a character's current [[HP]], even if the death itself is not ''instant''. For instance, [[Maxwell's Capacitive Coupling]] will always kill a monster in one hit, but it takes a few turns to charge.  Such 'instadeaths' are extremely rare in Crawl.
+It is also used to describe deaths which occur regardless of a character's current [[HP]], even if the death itself is not ''instant''. For instance, [[Maxwell's Capacitive Coupling]] will always kill a monster in one hit, but it takes a few turns to charge.  Such 'instadeaths' are extremely rare in Crawl.
 ==Player Instadeath==

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 As of 0.30, the only way a player can involuntarily die is if they are reduced (by direct damage) to 0 HP. As mentioned, this doesn't mean you can't die from a single attack or in a single turn.
-There are a few situations where a player can die from 100% health, in 1 turn, through no fault of their own:
+There are a few situations where a player can die from 100% health, in a single turn, through no fault of their own:
-*You can step around a corner into an enemy that can one-shot you. Any character with less than 35 or so HP can get one-shot by an ogre.
+*You can step around a corner into an enemy that can one-shot you. Any character with less than ~35 HP can get one-shot by an [[ogre (monster)|ogre]]; anyone with less than ~75 HP can die to a [[two-headed ogre]].
-*When teleported by [[malevolent force]], any monsters at your destination may get to attack before you get a turn to respond. If there are too many and/or too strong monsters at your destination, you can die without getting a single turn to react. For example, a D:10 character could be teleported next to an out-of-depth [[storm dragon]], get [[doublezap]]ped for 114 damage, and die. Or you could be teleported into [[Zot:5]], and simply take too much damage from a group of [[ancient lich]]es and [[orbs of fire]].
+*When teleported by [[malevolent force]], any monsters at your destination may get to attack before you get a turn to respond. If there are too many and/or too strong monsters at your destination, you can die before you get a single turn to respond. For example, a D:10 character could be teleported next to an out-of-depth [[storm dragon]], get [[doublezap]]ped for 114 damage, and die. Or you could be teleported into [[Zot:5]], and simply take too much damage from a group of [[ancient lich]]es and [[orbs of fire]].
-*When an [[ironbound convoker]] completes a [[Word of Recall]], recalled monsters may get to attack before you can respond. This usually isn't lethal, but Word of Recall can bring monsters from sealed [[vault]]s. If the convoker brings 2 [[ancient lich]]es, and each lich casts a 144 damage [[crystal spear]], you just die. (It's possible to stop Word of Recall through [[silence]] or a [[phial of floods]], but these may not always be available.)
+*When an [[ironbound convoker]] completes a [[Word of Recall]], recalled monsters may get to attack before you can respond. This usually isn't lethal, but Word of Recall can bring monsters from sealed [[vault]]s. If the convoker brings 2 [[ancient lich]]es, and each lich casts a 144 damage [[crystal spear]], you'll just die. (It's possible to stop Word of Recall through [[silence]] or a [[phial of floods]], but these may not always be available.)
 You can also escape the dungeon or [[quit]] the game, which are considered deaths as far as the game is concerned.
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 ==Instakilling monsters==
 There are a few ways to kill monsters irrespective of their hit points. They all require specific setups to work:
 *Monsters die if they fall in [[deep water]] or [[lava]], assuming the terrain is inhospitable for them. Usually, this requires [[confusing]] them near such terrain.
 *[[Uskayaw]]'s Grand Finale ***** ability can instantly kill any monster.
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 * The [[unrand]]s [[Finisher]] and [[Throatcutter]] have a chance to instantly kill monsters.
-[[Banishment]] (through [[Lugonu]]'s ** ability or a weapon of [[distortion]]) works regardless of a monster's current HP, although said monster may again be encountered in [[the Abyss]].
+[[Banishment]] (through [[Lugonu]]'s ** ability or a weapon of [[distortion]]) works regardless of a monster's current HP, although it is not counted as a "kill". It doesn't count towards most god's [[piety]], banishing [[the Royal Jelly]] doesn't open the vaults to Slime:5, and said monsters may again be encountered in [[the Abyss]]
 ==History==

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 {{flavour|The possibility of unavoidable deaths is a larger topic in computer games. Ideally, a game like [Crawl] would be really challenging and have both random layout and random course of action, yet still be winnable with perfect play. This goal seems out of reach. Thus, computer games can be soft in the sense that optimal play ensures a win. Apart from puzzles, though, this means that the game is solved from the outset; this is where the lack of a human game-master is obvious. Alternatively, they can be hard in the sense that unavoidable deaths can occur. We feel that the latter choice provides much more fun in the long run.}}
-The term '''instadeath''' (or '''instakill''') can mean many things. It is commonly used to describe a [[death]] that occurs instantly or very quickly, e.g. an early [[ogre (monster)|ogre]] killing a low-level [[Spriggan]] in one shot.
+The term '''instadeath''' (or '''instakill''') can mean many things. It is commonly used to describe a [[death]] that occurs instantly or very quickly, e.g. an early [[ogre (monster)|ogre]] killing a low-level [[Spriggan]] in one shot. The term is also used to describe deaths which occur regardless of a character's current [[HP]], even if the death itself is not ''instant''. Such 'instadeaths' are extremely rare in Crawl.
 ==Player Instadeath==

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 There are a few situations where a player can die from 100% health, in 1 turn, through no fault of their own:
 *You can step around a corner, into an enemy that can one-shot you. Any character with less than 35 or so HP can get one-shot by an ogre.
-*When teleported by [[malevolent force]], any monsters at your destination may get to attack. If there are too many and/or too strong monsters at your destination, you can die without getting a single turn to react. For example, a D:10 character could be teleported next to an out-of-depth [[storm dragon]], get [[doublezap]]ped for 114 damage, and die. Or you could be teleported into [[Zot:5]], and simply take too much damage from [[ancient lich]]es and [[orbs of fire]].
+*When teleported by [[malevolent force]], any monsters at your destination may get to attack. If there are too many and/or too strong monsters at your destination, you can die without getting a single turn to react. For example, a D:10 character could be teleported next to an out-of-depth [[storm dragon]], get [[doublezap]]ped for 114 damage, and die. Or you could be teleported into [[Zot:5]], and simply take too much damage from a group of [[ancient lich]]es and [[orbs of fire]].
 *When an [[ironbound convoker]] completes a [[Word of Recall]], recalled monsters may get to attack. This usually isn't lethal, but Word of Recall can bring monsters from sealed [[vault]]s. If the convoker brings 2 [[ancient lich]]es, and each lich casts a 144 damage [[crystal spear]], you just die. (It's possible to stop Word of Recall through [[silence]] or a [[phial of floods]], but these may not always be available.)