Longbow - Revision history

Hordes at 06:33, 9 November 2025

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Hordes at 06:30, 9 November 2025

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Pisaster: add quote

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Hordes at 00:20, 11 February 2024

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Hordes: update skill

2024-01-14T14:35:26Z

update skill

Hordes: de-CBA

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de-CBA

Patrick2011b: +CBA

2023-11-18T08:09:44Z

+CBA

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2023-08-19T18:05:07Z

‎Strategy

Hordes: simple strategy

2023-08-19T18:02:37Z

simple strategy

Hordes at 17:14, 9 June 2023

2023-06-09T17:14:12Z

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 ==Strategy==
-Longbows are one of the stronger weapons for a ranged weapons user. At around 16 skill (or higher), a longbow will outdamage an [[arbalest]] against a 0 AC target. An arbalest can still be better against AC or if it has better properties, though the base delay introduces [[Heavy#Risks of >1.0 attack delay|risks in combat]].
+Longbows are one of the stronger weapons for a ranged weapons user. At around 16 skill (or higher), a longbow will outdamage an [[arbalest]] against a 0 AC target if you have 0 encumbrance. An arbalest can still be better against high AC foes or if it has better properties, though the base delay introduces [[Heavy#Risks of >1.0 attack delay|risks in combat]].
 Of course, a [[triple crossbow]] is more powerful, but it's rarer and requires more skill to reach mindelay.

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 ==Strategy==
-Longbows are one of the stronger weapons for a ranged weapons user. At around 16 skill (or higher), a longbow will outdamage an [[arbalest]] against a 0 AC target. An arbalest can still be better if it has higher enchantment, but the base delay introduces [[Heavy#Risks of >1.0 attack delay|risks in combat]].
+Longbows are one of the stronger weapons for a ranged weapons user. At around 16 skill (or higher), a longbow will outdamage an [[arbalest]] against a 0 AC target. An arbalest can still be better against AC or if it has better properties, though the base delay introduces [[Heavy#Risks of >1.0 attack delay|risks in combat]].
 Of course, a [[triple crossbow]] is more powerful, but it's rarer and requires more skill to reach mindelay.

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   |ranged    = Yes
   |acquirement = 10
-}}{{flavour|A long, strong bow made of yew.}}
+}}{{flavour|A long, strong bow made of yew.
 '''Longbows''' are an upgrade over [[shortbow]]s and [[orcbow]]s, dealing more damage. They fire faster than [[arbalest]]s.

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 Longbows are one of the stronger weapons for a ranged weapons user. At around 16 skill (or higher), a longbow will outdamage an [[arbalest]] against a 0 AC target. An arbalest can still be better if it has higher enchantment, but the base delay introduces [[Heavy#Risks of >1.0 attack delay|risks in combat]].
-Of course, a [[triple crossbow]] is more powerful , but it's rarer and requires more skill to use.
+Of course, a [[triple crossbow]] is more powerful, but it's rarer and requires more skill to reach mindelay.
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 {{version031}}{{weapon
   |name      = Longbow
-  |skill     = Bows
+  |skill     = Ranged Weapons
   |damage    = 14
   |accuracy  = +0

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-{{version030}}{{weapon
+{{version031}}{{weapon
   |name      = Longbow
   |skill     = Bows
-  |damage    = 13
+  |damage    = 14
   |accuracy  = +0
-  |basedelay = 16
+  |basedelay = 17
-  |mindelay  = 7 at 18 skill
+  |mindelay  = 7 at 20 skill
   |hands     = 2H
   |size      = Large
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 }}{{flavour|A long, strong bow made of yew.}}
-'''Longbows''' are an upgrade over [[shortbow]]s, dealing more damage. They fire faster than [[arbalest]]s.
+'''Longbows''' are an upgrade over [[shortbow]]s and [[orcbow]]s, dealing more damage. They fire faster than [[arbalest]]s.
 ==Strategy==
-Longbows are a usable two-handed weapon for [[ranged weapon]] users. At mindelay (>18 skill), longbows deal more damage than [[arbalest]]s against 0 AC targets. While arbalests are better against [[AC]], longbows benefit more from [[slaying]].
+Longbows are one of the stronger weapons for a ranged weapons user. At around 16 skill (or higher), a longbow will outdamage an [[arbalest]] against a 0 AC target. An arbalest can still be better if it has higher enchantment, but the base delay introduces [[Heavy#Risks of >1.0 attack delay|risks in combat]].
-Of course, a [[triple crossbow]] is stronger than either weapon, but it's rarer and requires more skill to use.
+Of course, a [[triple crossbow]] is more powerful , but it's rarer and requires more skill to use.
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 ==History==
-*In [[0.31]], longbows will have 14 damage and 17 base delay.
+*Prior to [[0.31]], longbows had 13 damage and 16 base delay. Also, it was significantly more likely to find a longbow in the early-mid game (as [[centaur warrior]]s could have them.)
 *Prior to [[0.30]], longbows had 12 damage, 17 base delay, and a mindelay of 6.
 *In [[0.29]], longbows had their damage and mindelay reduced (previously 15 damage, 7 mindelay) . They were affected by the [[Ranged Weapons#History|ranged weapons rework]] that applied to all launchers, including the removal of the dedicated [[Bows (skill)|bows skill]] and [[arrow]] requirement.
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 [[Category:Bows]]

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 ==Strategy==
-Longbows are a suitable endgame two-handed weapon for [[Ranged Weapon]] users. At mindelay (>14 skill), longbows deal more damage than [[arbalest]]s against 0 AC targets. While arbalests deal better against [[AC]], longbows benefit more from [[slaying]]. Of course, a [[triple crossbow]] is stronger than a longbow, but is rarer and requires more skill to use.
+Longbows are a usable two-handed weapon for [[ranged weapon]] users. At mindelay (>14 skill), longbows deal more damage than [[arbalest]]s against 0 AC targets. While arbalests are better against [[AC]], longbows benefit more from [[slaying]].
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	'''Longbows''' are an upgrade over [[shortbow]]s, dealing more damage. They fire faster than [[arbalest]]s.		'''Longbows''' are an upgrade over [[shortbow]]s, dealing more damage. They fire faster than [[arbalest]]s.
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		+	==Strategy==
		+	Longbows are a suitable endgame two-handed weapon for [[Ranged Weapon]] users. At mindelay (>14 skill), longbows deal more damage than [[arbalest]]s against 0 AC targets. While arbalests deal better against [[AC]], longbows benefit more from [[slaying]]. Of course, a [[triple crossbow]] is stronger than a longbow, but is rarer and requires more skill to use.

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