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‎Weapon attributes

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Ge0ff: /* History */ Add a note about infinite ammo for monsters

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‎History: Add a note about infinite ammo for monsters

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Spudwalt: /* Throwing */

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‎Throwing

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−	~~{{version029}}~~	+	#REDIRECT[[Ranged Weapons]]
−	'''Ranged Weapons''' is a [[skill]] that governs '''launchers''', weapons which fire missiles from a distance. This includes slings, bows, and crossbows. Being able to attack enemies from any unobstructed tile in [[line of sight]] is a large perk, especially for faster characters. However, not only are they weaker than their melee counterparts, but ranged weapons suffer penalties when wearing heavy body [[armour]]. Note that while monsters lacking the [[Category:Archer_flag\|archer flag]] are unable to use ranged weapons in melee, players may do so without an explicit penalty.
−
−	~~All ranged weapons use [[dexterity]] instead of [[strength]] for damage calculations.~~
−
−	~~==List of Ranged Weapons==~~
−	~~{\| class="wikitable"~~
−	~~! Name \|\| Dam \|\| Hit \|\| Delay \|\| Hands \|\| Size \|\| Prob~~
−	~~\|-style="vertical-align: top;"~~
−	~~\| [[Hunting sling\|Sling]] \|\| 7 \|\| 0 \|\| 14 \|\| One \|\| Little \|\| 10~~
−	~~\|-style="vertical-align: top;"~~
−	~~\| [[Shortbow]] \|\| 9 \|\| +2 \|\| 15 \|\| Two \|\| Little \|\| 10~~
−	~~\|-style="vertical-align: top;"~~
−	~~\| [[Longbow]] \|\| 12 \|\| 0 \|\| 17 \|\| Two \|\| Medium \|\| 10~~
−	~~\|-style="vertical-align: top;"~~
−	~~\| [[Hand crossbow]] \|\| 17 \|\| +3 \|\| 18 \|\| One \|\| Little \|\| 10~~
−	~~\|-style="vertical-align: top;"~~
−	~~\| [[Arbalest]] \|\| 17 \|\| -2 \|\| 19 \|\| Two \|\| Little \|\| 10~~
−	~~\|-style="vertical-align: top;"~~
−	~~\| [[Triple crossbow]] \|\| 23 \|\| -2 \|\| 23 \|\| Two \|\| Small \|\| 2~~
−	\|}
−	~~Note that the three crossbows - hand crossbow, arbalest, triple crossbow - are unique in that they have a [[weapon speed\|minimum delay]] of 1.0, instead of the standard 0.7 (they attack slower).~~
−
−	~~==Armour Penalty==~~
−	~~Ranged weapons are uniquely penalized down by [[Encumbrance_rating\|armor encumberance]]. The more encumbered you are, the slower you attack. The penalty, in [[decaAut]], is as follows:~~
−
−	~~{{crawlquote\|[ (e)^2 / 2250 ] * [ (90-2A) / (S + 3) ]}}~~
−	~~For e = encumberance rating, A = Armour skill, and S = strength.~~
−
−	~~Therefore, lower~~ [[~~strength]] species without [[Armour (skill)\|armour skill]] suffer more from heavier armour.~~
−
−	~~==Brands==~~
−	Ranged Weapons ~~have a different set of [[brand]]s. Most of these are similar to their melee version.~~
−	*[[Chaos]] - Causes random effects
−	*[[Electrocution]] - Deals additional [[electricity]] damage
−	*[[Flaming]] - Adds up to an additional 50% [[fire]] damage
−	*[[Freezing]] - Adds up to an additional 50% [[cold]] damage
−	*[[Penetration]] - Projectiles can pierce through enemies, hitting everything along its trajectory
−	*[[Speed (brand)\|Speed]] - Attacks take 66.6% normal time
−	*[[Venom]] - Poisons target
−	*[[Vorpal]] - Increases damage by up to 20%.
−	~~Ranged weapons may also get [[pain (brand)\|pain]] or [[holy wrath]] (but not [[distortion]]) from [[Kikubaaqudgha]]'s and [[The Shining One]]'s capstone gifts.~~
−
−	~~==Retired Weapons==~~
−	~~Over the years, a few ranged weapons have been retired or reworked into new forms:~~
−	*[[Fustibalus]] - removed with the removal of the Slings skill in [[0.29]]
−	*[[Blowgun]]/[[Needle]] - effect was moved on to the throwable [[dart]] in [[0.24]]
−	*[[Bow (item)\|Bow]] - Split into shortbow/longbow in [[0.15]].
−	*[[Crossbow (item)\|Crossbow]] - Split into hand crossbow/arbalest in [[0.15]].
−
−	~~===Returning Weapons===~~
−	*[[Dart]]s - removed in [[0.15]], re-added in [[0.24]].
−	*[[Sling]] - split into [[hunting sling]] and greatsling ([[fustibalus]]) in [[0.15]], renamed back from hunting sling in [[0.29]].
−
−	~~==See also==~~
−	*[[Throwing]]
−	*[[Ranged Combat]]
−
−	~~==History==~~
−	*In [[0.29]], ranged weapons were reworked. Prior to this:
−	**Ranged weapons were split into [[Slings (skill)\|Slings]], [[Bows]], and [[Crossbows]], with their seperate skills. Slings [[crosstrain]]ed with [[Throwing]].
−	**Launchers required [[ammo]] to use ([[stone]]s/[[sling bullet]]s, [[arrow]]s, [[bolt]]s, respectively). [[Okawaru]] gifted ammo, and enemies using launchers would have plentiful amounts of it.
−	**Weapon stats as a whole were drastically different. They scaled off [[strength]] instead of DEX, and were not especially encumbered by [[armour]].
−	**[[Fustibali]] existed as an upgrade to slings, [[sling]]s were named [[hunting sling]]s, and Throwing weapons were informally considered ranged weapons (as they were more similar; Throwing went mostly unchanged).
−	*In [[0.27]], monsters with ranged attacks got unlimited ammunition (except [[net]]s). Throwing ammo was reduced as a result.
−	*In [[0.24]], throwing weapons were streamlined. Darts replaced blowguns/needles, boomerangs replaced tomahawks and brands were simplified.
−	*Prior to [[0.18]], each weapon had a strength weight percentage that determined how the weapon would benefit from your strength and dexterity. Additionally, more types of ammunition could have brands of their own.
−	*Prior to [[0.15]], ranged combat was significantly more complicated; among other differences, min delay was heavily influenced by your [[stats]]. Additionally, 0.15 introduced greatslings (later called fustibali), hand crossbows, and triple crossbows, and removed the old version of darts.
−	*Prior to [[0.14]], [[dagger]]s, [[spear]]s, [[hand axe]]s, and [[club]]s could be thrown.
−	*Prior to [[0.11]], ammunition could have its own [[enchantment]] bonuses.
−	*Prior to [[0.6]]~~, darts could be fired from an early version of hand crossbows instead of being thrown by hand.~~

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 !style="text-align: left;" | [[Weapon Speed|Speed]]
-| This is actually the attack delay, which is multiplied by 10 to get the "percentages" you see in-game.  (That is, attack delay 10 shows as 100%.)  Every 2 levels of weapon skill lowers the delay by 1 unit.  A weapon's minimum delay is half of its base delay (rounded down) or 7, whichever is lower ([[hand crossbow]]s, [[arbalest]]s, and [[triple crossbow]]s all have a hard-coded minimum delay of 10).  The [[speed brand]] and [[haste]] cut delay by one third (round randomly up or down). These effects stack, ''after'' the base cap, but there's an absolute cap of 2 for attack delay.
+| Attack delay.  Every 2 levels of weapon skill lowers the delay by 1 unit.  A weapon's minimum delay is half of its base delay (rounded down) or 7, whichever is lower ([[hand crossbow]]s, [[arbalest]]s, and [[triple crossbow]]s all have a hard-coded minimum delay of 10).  Speed effects apply ''after'' the base cap, but there's an absolute cap of 2 for attack delay.
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	'''Ranged weapons''' include all [[weapon]]s capable of attacking any target within your [[line of sight]]. All of these require ammunition to function, and most of them require you to wield a launcher. The ability to attack distant foes is very helpful, particularly for characters with fast [[movement]] speed (see [[kiting]]). However, ranged weapons are not without their drawbacks. Running out of ammo renders a ranged weapon nearly useless, and [[melee weapon]]s tend to have better overall stats.		'''Ranged weapons''' include all [[weapon]]s capable of attacking any target within your [[line of sight]]. All of these require ammunition to function, and most of them require you to wield a launcher. The ability to attack distant foes is very helpful, particularly for characters with fast [[movement]] speed (see [[kiting]]). However, ranged weapons are not without their drawbacks. Running out of ammo renders a ranged weapon nearly useless, and [[melee weapon]]s tend to have better overall stats.

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 '''Ranged weapons''' include all [[weapon]]s capable of attacking any target within your [[line of sight]]. All of these require ammunition to function, and most of them require you to wield a launcher. The ability to attack distant foes is very helpful, particularly for characters with fast [[movement]] speed (see [[kiting]]). However, ranged weapons are not without their drawbacks. Running out of ammo renders a ranged weapon nearly useless, and [[melee weapon]]s tend to have better overall stats.
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 | Which skill is required to effectively use this weapon.
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-!style="text-align: left;" | [[Handedness|One-handed min. size]]
+!style="text-align: left;" | [[Handedness|One-hand min. size]]
 | Minimum size required to be able to use the weapon with one hand. The order is little, small, medium, large, big.
 |-style="vertical-align: top;"
-!style="text-align: left;" | [[Handedness|Two-handed min. size]]
+!style="text-align: left;" | [[Handedness|Two-hand min. size]]
 | Minimum size required to be able to use the weapon with two hands. When the player's size is equal or greater than 'Two-handed min. size', but less than 'One-handed min. size', the weapon cannot be used with a [[shield]].
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 ==Throwing==
-Thrown weapons are unique among ranged weapons in that they do not require you to wield a launcher to use them; you simply hurl them without even needing a free hand (don't ask how). This means you don't have to waste time in combat swapping weapons, saving turns and reducing frustration, you can wear [[shield]]s, and you can save many of your [[scrolls of enchant weapon]]. Additionally, many throwing weapons have inherent properties that change how the projectile works or adds an additional effect. Unfortunately, most throwing weapons are among the weaker ranged options, and none of them have any inherent bonus to accuracy.
+Thrown weapons are unique among ranged weapons in that they do not require you to wield a launcher to use them; you simply hurl them without even needing a free hand (don't ask how). This means you don't have to waste time in combat swapping weapons, keeping a shield, saving turns, and reducing frustration. Additionally, many throwing weapons have inherent properties that change how the projectile works or adds an additional effect. Unfortunately, most throwing weapons are among the weaker ranged options, and none of them have any inherent bonus to accuracy.
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 ==Bows==
-[[Bows]] are a moderate player's choice of ranged weapon, firing [[arrow]]s at your opponents to deadly effect. They are universally more powerful than slings, and require only a reasonable skill investment to fire quickly. However, both kinds of bow require two hands to wield, and longbows are too large for smaller-than-average characters to use.
+[[Bows]] are a fairly plain, but powerful ranged weapons. They fire [[arrow]]s at your opponents to deadly effect. They are universally more powerful than slings, and require only a reasonable skill investment to fire quickly. However, both kinds of bow require two hands to wield, and longbows are too large for smaller-than-average characters to use.
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 ==Crossbows==
-If you want a ranged weapon that tears into foes with the strength of a melee weapon, consider getting a [[crossbow]]. These contraptions are the largest, slowest ranged weapons available, but they launch their [[bolt]]s with unparalleled force. Unfortunately, they require the most skill of all ranged weapons to attack quickly, particularly in the case of the super-heavy [[triple crossbow]], and none of them can attack any faster than the regular turn speed. With the exception of the tiny [[hand crossbow]], crossbows are two-handed weapons, precluding the use of a shield.
+If you want a ranged weapon that tears into foes with the strength of a melee weapon, consider getting a [[crossbow]]. These contraptions are the largest, slowest ranged weapons available, but they launch their [[bolt]]s with unparalleled force. Unfortunately, they require the most skill of all ranged weapons to attack quickly, particularly in the case of the super-heavy [[triple crossbow]]. Their mindelay is also set at 1.0, higher than any other weapon in the game. And with the exception of the tiny [[hand crossbow]], crossbows are two-handed weapons. Both crossbows and their bolts aren't extremely common until you get to the [[Vaults]] branch.
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 ==History==
-*In [[0.27]], monsters with ranged attacks got unlimited ammunition (except [[net]]s).
+*In [[0.27]], monsters with ranged attacks got unlimited ammunition (except [[net]]s). Throwing ammo was reduced as a result.
 *In [[0.24]], throwing weapons were streamlined. Darts replaced blowguns/needles, boomerangs replaced tomahawks and brands were simplified.
 *Prior to [[0.18]], each weapon had a strength weight percentage that determined how the weapon would benefit from your strength and dexterity. Additionally, more types of ammunition could have brands of their own.

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 ==History==
 *In [[0.24]], throwing weapons were streamlined. Darts replaced blowguns/needles, boomerangs replaced tomahawks and brands were simplified.
 *Prior to [[0.18]], each weapon had a strength weight percentage that determined how the weapon would benefit from your strength and dexterity. Additionally, more types of ammunition could have brands of their own.

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-'''Ranged weapons''' include all [[weapon]]s capable of attacking any target within your [[line of sight]]. All of these require ammo to function, and most of them require you to wield a launcher. The ability to attack distant foes is very helpful, particularly for characters with fast [[movement]] speed (see [[kiting]]). However, ranged weapons are not without their drawbacks. Running out of ammo renders a ranged weapon nearly useless, and [[melee weapon]]s tend to have better overall stats.
+'''Ranged weapons''' include all [[weapon]]s capable of attacking any target within your [[line of sight]]. All of these require ammunition to function, and most of them require you to wield a launcher. The ability to attack distant foes is very helpful, particularly for characters with fast [[movement]] speed (see [[kiting]]). However, ranged weapons are not without their drawbacks. Running out of ammo renders a ranged weapon nearly useless, and [[melee weapon]]s tend to have better overall stats.
 ==Weapon attributes==
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 !style="text-align: left;" | [[Weapon Speed|Speed]]
-| This is actually the attack delay, which is multiplied by 10 to get the "percentages" you see in-game.  (That is, attack delay 10 shows as 100%.)  Every 2 levels of weapon skill lowers the delay by 1 unit.  A weapon's minimum delay is half of its base delay (rounded down) or 7 (5 for [[cutlass]], 10 for [[hand crossbow]]s, [[arbalest]]s and [[triple crossbow]]s), whichever is lower.  Speed brand and haste cut delay by one third (round randomly up or down). These effects stack, ''after'' the base cap, but there's an absolute cap of 2 for attack delay.
+| This is actually the attack delay, which is multiplied by 10 to get the "percentages" you see in-game.  (That is, attack delay 10 shows as 100%.)  Every 2 levels of weapon skill lowers the delay by 1 unit.  A weapon's minimum delay is half of its base delay (rounded down) or 7, whichever is lower ([[hand crossbow]]s, [[arbalest]]s, and [[triple crossbow]]s all have a hard-coded minimum delay of 10).  The [[speed brand]] and [[haste]] cut delay by one third (round randomly up or down). These effects stack, ''after'' the base cap, but there's an absolute cap of 2 for attack delay.
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 !style="text-align: left;" | Skill
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 ==Throwing==
-Thrown weapons are unique among ranged weapons in that they do not require you to wield anything to use them; you simply hurl them without needing a free hand (don't ask how). This means you don't have to waste time in combat swapping weapons, saving turns and reducing frustration, you can wear [[shield]]s, and you can save many [[scrolls of enchant weapon]]. Additionally, many throwing weapons have inherent properties that change how the projectile works or adds an additional effect. Unfortunately, most throwing weapons are among the weakest ranged options, and none of them have any inherent bonus to accuracy.
+Thrown weapons are unique among ranged weapons in that they do not require you to wield a launcher to use them; you simply hurl them without even needing a free hand (don't ask how). This means you don't have to waste time in combat swapping weapons, saving turns and reducing frustration, you can wear [[shield]]s, and you can save many of your [[scrolls of enchant weapon]]. Additionally, many throwing weapons have inherent properties that change how the projectile works or adds an additional effect. Unfortunately, most throwing weapons are among the weaker ranged options, and none of them have any inherent bonus to accuracy.
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 | [[Throwing net]] || 0 || 0 || 10 || Throwing || Little || 0 || Deals no damage, but inflicts the [[Held]] [[status effect]]
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-| [[Stone]] || 2 || 0 || 11 || Throwing || Little || 0 || Can be launched from [[slings]] for more damage
+| [[Stone]] || 2 || 0 || 11 || Throwing || Little || 0 || Weak, but plentiful; can be launched from [[slings]] for more damage
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 | [[Boomerang]] || 6 || 0 || 13 || Throwing || Little || 0 || Inherent [[returning]] property
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 ==Crossbows==
-If you want a ranged weapon that tears into foes with the strength of a melee weapon, consider getting a [[crossbow]]. These contraptions are the largest, slowest ranged weapons available, but they launch their [[bolt]]s with unparalleled force. Unfortunately, they require the most skill of all ranged weapons to attack quickly, particularly in the case of the super-heavy [[triple crossbow]], and none of them can attack any faster than the regular turn speed. With the exception of the tiny [[hand crossbow]], crossbows are two-handed weapons and benefit much more from high [[strength]] than from [[dexterity]].
+If you want a ranged weapon that tears into foes with the strength of a melee weapon, consider getting a [[crossbow]]. These contraptions are the largest, slowest ranged weapons available, but they launch their [[bolt]]s with unparalleled force. Unfortunately, they require the most skill of all ranged weapons to attack quickly, particularly in the case of the super-heavy [[triple crossbow]], and none of them can attack any faster than the regular turn speed. With the exception of the tiny [[hand crossbow]], crossbows are two-handed weapons, precluding the use of a shield.
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 ===Launcher Brands===
 *[[Electrocution]] - Deals additional [[electricity]] damage
-*[[Flame]] - Converts all damage to [[fire]], increases damage by 0-40%
+*[[Flaming]] - Adds up to an additional 50% [[fire]] damage
-*[[Frost]] - Converts all damage to [[cold]], increases damage by 0-40%
+*[[Freezing]] -  Adds up to an additional 50% [[cold]] damage
 *[[Penetration]] - Projectiles can pierce through enemies, hitting everything along its trajectory
 *[[Speed (brand)|Speed]] - Attacks take 66.6% normal time
 *[[Venom]] - Poisons target
-*[[Vorpal]] - Increases damage by 0-40%
+*[[Vorpal]] - Increases damage by 20%
 ===Throwing Weapon Brands===
-*[[Atropa]] - Temporarily blinds and confuses target
+*[[Atropa]] - Temporarily [[blind]]s and [[confusion|confuses]] target
 *[[Curare]] - [[Poison]]s, [[slow]]s, and [[asphyxiate]]s target
-*[[Datura]] - [[Berserk]]s target and temporarily turns it hostile to everything
+*[[Datura]] - Sends target into a [[berserk]] frenzy, turning it against everything nearby
-*[[Dispersal_(brand)|Dispersal]] - Forces target to [[blink]] randomly
+*[[Dispersal_(brand)|Dispersal]] - Forces target to [[blink]] roughly away from the thrower
-*[[Penetration]] - Projectiles can pierce through enemies, hitting everything along its trajectory
+*[[Penetration]] - Projectiles pierce through enemies, hitting everything along their trajectory
 *[[Poisoned]] - [[Poison]]s target
-*[[Returning]] - Ammo may return to the attacker, with chance based on player skill or monster [[HD]]
+*[[Returning]] - Ammo returns to attacker after being thrown
 *[[Silver]] - Deals increased damage, particularly to [[chaotic]] targets
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 ==History==
 *In [[0.24]], throwing weapons were streamlined. Darts replaced blowguns/needles, boomerangs replaced tomahawks and brands were simplified.
-*Prior to [[0.18]], each weapon had a strength weight percentage that determined how the weapon would benefit from your strength and dexterity.
+*Prior to [[0.18]], each weapon had a strength weight percentage that determined how the weapon would benefit from your strength and dexterity. Additionally, more types of ammunition could have brands of their own.
-*Prior to [[0.15]], ranged combat was significantly more complicated. Min delay was heavily influenced by your [[stats]], and there was a much smaller variety of weapons available.
+*Prior to [[0.15]], ranged combat was significantly more complicated; among other differences, min delay was heavily influenced by your [[stats]]. Additionally, 0.15 introduced greatslings (later called fustibali), hand crossbows, and triple crossbows, and removed the old version of darts.
 *Prior to [[0.14]], [[dagger]]s, [[spear]]s, [[hand axe]]s, and [[club]]s could be thrown.

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 | [[Boomerang]] || 6 || 0 || 13 || Throwing || Little || 0 || Inherent [[returning]] property
 |-style="vertical-align: top;"
-| [[Javelin]] || 10 || 0 || 15 || Throwing || Medium || 0 || Inherent [[piercing]] property
+| [[Javelin]] || 10 || 0 || 15 || Throwing || Medium || 0 || Inherent [[penetration]] property
 |-style="vertical-align: top;"
 | [[Large rock]] || 20 || 0 || 20 || Throwing || Large || 0 ||