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Hordes at 21:53, 19 September 2023

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Hordes: mention evilness

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Kernmantle: /* Strategy */

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 **Any non-undead species can gain torment immunity through a [[potion of lignification]] (at the cost of not moving).
 **Worshippers of [[Kikubaaqudgha]] with sufficiently high [[piety]] have a chance to receive some protection from torment effects, sometimes preventing the damage altogether.
-*If you have ranged attacks and a monster doesn't, you can pelt the monster and potentially kill it before it reaches you, allowing you to potentially kill [[out of depth]] monsters. Ideally, you should be standing on an upstair or have another way to retreat from the monster.
+*If you have ranged attacks and a monster doesn't, you can pelt the monster and potentially kill it before it reaches you, allowing you to possibly kill [[out of depth]] monsters. Ideally, you should be standing on an upstair or have another way to retreat from the monster.
 *Healing after using torment can let you win fights you wouldn't have, namely in the early game when you have few other options.

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 **Any non-undead species can gain torment immunity through a [[potion of lignification]] (at the cost of not moving).
 **Worshippers of [[Kikubaaqudgha]] with sufficiently high [[piety]] have a chance to receive some protection from torment effects, sometimes preventing the damage altogether.
-*If you have ranged attacks and a monster doesn't, you can pelt the monster and potentially kill it before it reaches you. Ideally, you should be standing on an upstair.
+*If you have ranged attacks and a monster doesn't, you can pelt the monster and potentially kill it before it reaches you, allowing you to potentially kill [[out of depth]] monsters. Ideally, you should be standing on an upstair or have another way to retreat from the monster.
 *Healing after using torment can let you win fights you wouldn't have, namely in the early game when you have few other options.

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 *Healing after using torment can let you win fights you wouldn't have, namely in the early game when you have few other options.
-Torment is especially good for taking out [[the Royal Jelly]]. Tormenting TRJ still creates high-level jellies, but you can follow up with a [[scroll of immolation]], [[Ignition]], or a number of strategies mentioned in [[The Royal Jelly#Strategy|TRJ's page]]. A second torment may be necessary.
+Torment is especially good for taking out [[the Royal Jelly]]. Tormenting TRJ still creates high-level jellies, but you can follow up with a [[scroll of immolation]], [[Ignition]], or a number of strategies mentioned in [[The Royal Jelly#Strategy|TRJ's page]]. A second torment may be necessary. Having torment immunity is helpful.
 Without a means of healing and/or escape, you'll want some form of heavy torment resistance ([[Gargoyle]]s, [[Statue Form]], [[Kiku]] protection...) before using this scroll. Usually, there are better last resorts than torment.

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 ==Strategy==
-Flat out using a scroll of torment without immunity is inherently dubious, as it halves your HP, then monsters get to attack. However, it ''does'' have uses:
+Flat out using a scroll of torment without immunity is inherently dubious, as it halves your HP, then monsters get a turn to act. However, it ''does'' have uses:
-*[[Torment immunity|Immunity]] or resistance to torment will negate the downside.
+*[[Torment Immunity|Immunity]] or resistance to torment will negate the downside.
 **The [[undead]] ([[Poltergeist]], [[Revenant]], [[Mummy]]) are naturally immune, and [[Gargoyle]]s/[[Statue Form]] players have protection.
 **Any non-undead species can gain torment immunity through a [[potion of lignification]] (at the cost of not moving).

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 ==Strategy==
 Flat out using a scroll of torment without immunity is inherently dubious, as it halves your HP, then monsters get to attack. However, it ''does'' have uses:
-*Immunity to/protection from torment will negate the downside.
+*[[Torment immunity|Immunity]] or resistance to torment will negate the downside.
-**The [[undead]] are naturally immune.
+**The [[undead]] ([[Poltergeist]], [[Revenant]], [[Mummy]]) are naturally immune, and [[Gargoyle]]s/[[Statue Form]] players have protection.
 **Any non-undead species can gain torment immunity through a [[potion of lignification]] (at the cost of not moving).
 **Worshippers of [[Kikubaaqudgha]] with sufficiently high [[piety]] have a chance to receive some protection from torment effects, sometimes preventing the damage altogether.
 *If you have ranged attacks and a monster doesn't, you can pelt the monster and potentially kill it before it reaches you. Ideally, you should be standing on an upstair.
 Torment is especially good for taking out [[the Royal Jelly]]. Tormenting TRJ still creates high-level jellies, but you can follow up with a [[scroll of immolation]], [[Ignition]], or a number of strategies mentioned in [[The Royal Jelly#Strategy|TRJ's page]]. A second torment may be necessary.

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 *If you're [[Torment Immunity|immune to torment]], these scrolls are obviously useful. [[Undead]] species ([[Ghoul]], [[Mummy]], bloodless [[Vampire]]) are naturally immune; for other species, [[Tree Form]] confers immunity, but prevents you from moving.
-*If you have healing items, a scroll can be an excellent ace-in-the-hole item, allowing you to kill things above your league.
+*If you have healing items, torment can be an excellent ace-in-the-hole item, allowing you to kill things above your league.
-**If monsters can't attack you, tormenting yourself can be "safe" without healing. You can torment an [[out-of-depth]] melee monster, attack it from range, and go up the stairs if it fails.
+**If monsters can't attack you, tormenting yourself can be "safe" without healing. You can torment an [[out-of-depth]] melee monster, attack it before it gets in range, and go up the stairs if it fails.
-*Torment can be great for taking out [[the Royal Jelly]]. Tormenting TRJ still creates high-level jellies, but you can follow up with a [[scroll of immolation]], [[Ignition]], or a number of strategies mentioned in [[The Royal Jelly#Strategy|TRJ's page]].
+*Torment can be great for taking out [[the Royal Jelly]]. Tormenting TRJ still creates high-level jellies, but you can follow up with a [[scroll of immolation]], [[Ignition]], or a number of strategies mentioned in [[The Royal Jelly#Strategy|TRJ's page]]. A second torment may be necessary.
 *Worshippers of [[Kikubaaqudgha]] with sufficiently high [[piety]] have a chance to receive some protection from torment effects, sometimes preventing the damage altogether.
-Without a means of healing and/or escape, you'll want some form of heavy torment resistance ([[Gargoyle]]s, [[Statue Form]], [[Kiku]] protection...) before using this scroll. Once you reach [[Zot:5]] and [[extended]], almost all monsters are immune to torment, making this scroll almost pointless.
+Without a means of healing and/or escape, you'll want some form of heavy torment resistance ([[Gargoyle]]s, [[Statue Form]], [[Kiku]] protection...) before using this scroll. Usually, there are better last resorts than torment.
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 {{flavour|A scroll that calls on the powers of darkness to inflict great pain on any nearby creature -- including the reader! This halves the resilience of all living creatures, although it is never directly fatal.}}
-Reading a [[scroll of torment]] inflicts [[torment]] on yourself and all monsters in your [[line of sight]], cutting their HP in half. Demons and the undead are immune, while each rank of rN+ offers the victim 5% resistance.
+Reading a [[scroll of torment]] inflicts [[torment]] on yourself and all monsters in your [[line of sight]], cutting their HP in half. Monsters that are [[demonic]], [[undead]], [[nonliving]], or [[holy]] are immune. For players, only undead are immune. Each rank of rN+ offers 10% damage reduction (-5% max HP lost). Only undead players are immune to torment.
 This scroll is considered [[evil]], so the [[good god]]s forbid its intentional use.
 ==Strategy==
-*A scroll of torment coupled with some decent healing items is an excellent ace-in-the-hole item, allowing you to mangle enemies far out of your league if found and identified in the early game. If you happen to have torment immunity ([[mummy]], [[ghoul]], bloodless [[vampire]], and characters in [[lichform]] or [[Tree Form]] as a result of drinking a [[potion of lignification]]), it becomes an excellent nuke.
+Scrolls of torment are inherently dubious: reading the scroll will halve your HP, and monsters get a turn to attack as you read the scroll. However, it ''does'' have uses:
-*Tormenting [[The Royal Jelly]] is effective, but will still create many high-level jellies. These can be blown up, either with a [[scroll of immolation]] or [[Ignition]]. Read a 2nd scroll of torment before immolating if you want to create even more cannon fodder, cutting TRJ's health to a quarter - and watch the fireworks.
 *Worshippers of [[Kikubaaqudgha]] with sufficiently high [[piety]] have a chance to receive some protection from torment effects, sometimes preventing the damage altogether.
-*Use of this item without means to heal yourself or escape from the situation is generally ill-advised, unless you have some significant torment protection from being a [[gargoyle]] or in [[Statue Form]], worshipping [[Kikubaaqudgha]], or being a [[mummy]], [[ghoul]] or bloodless [[vampire]], who are completely immune.
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	Reading a [[scroll of torment]] inflicts [[torment]] on yourself and all monsters in your [[line of sight]], cutting their HP in half. Demons and the undead are immune, while each rank of rN+ offers the victim 5% resistance.		Reading a [[scroll of torment]] inflicts [[torment]] on yourself and all monsters in your [[line of sight]], cutting their HP in half. Demons and the undead are immune, while each rank of rN+ offers the victim 5% resistance.
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		+	This scroll is considered [[evil]], so the [[good god]]s forbid its intentional use.

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