Shield (stat) - Revision history

Hordes at 08:13, 14 November 2025

2025-11-14T08:13:17Z

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2025-07-14T00:30:11Z

‎Strategy

Patrick2011b: /* Blocking */ add ref for blocking value

2025-02-07T23:56:22Z

‎Blocking: add ref for blocking value

Patrick2011b: update to 0.32

2025-02-07T23:44:15Z

update to 0.32

Hordes: /* 1 EV vs 1 SH */

2024-03-11T08:33:09Z

‎1 EV vs 1 SH

Hordes: /* 1 EV vs 1 SH */

2024-03-10T19:47:15Z

‎1 EV vs 1 SH

Hordes: /* 1 EV vs 1 SH */ fix formula (used > instead of >= for SH formula)

2024-03-10T19:31:05Z

‎1 EV vs 1 SH: fix formula (used > instead of >= for SH formula)

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2024-03-10T17:22:36Z

‎Strategy

Hordes: math on EV vs SH

2024-03-10T17:02:37Z

math on EV vs SH

Hordes: update to-hit

2024-03-10T03:24:02Z

update to-hit

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-{{version032}}
+{{version033}}
 ''This page is about the Shield [[stat]]. For shields in general, see [[Shields]]. For the player [[skill]], see [[Shields (skill)]].''
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 *Wearing an [[amulet of reflection]], [[Brooch of Shielding]], or [[ring of the Octopus King]]
 *Having the [[Large Bone Plates]] [[mutation]]
 *[[Qazlal]]'s Storm Shield passive
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 *[[Penetration|Penetrating]] attacks: [[Javelin]]s, [[Bolt spell]]s, [[Starburst]]...
 *Almost everything with perfect [[accuracy]]: [[Magic Dart]], [[Smiting]], [[Chain Lightning]], Explosions ([[Fireball]], [[Damnation]]), [[Shatter]]...
-:([[Orb of Destruction]] is the only spell that ignores EV but can be blocked)
+**[[Orb of Destruction]] is the only spell that ignores EV but can be blocked
 *Enchantments: [[Agony]], [[Pain]], [[Confuse]], everything that checks [[willpower]]
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 *EV defends against penetrating attacks, while SH doesn't.
-However, shields give high amounts of SH. Wearing a [[kite shield]] instantly brings you from 0 to >8 SH, while gaining 8 EV takes a lot of effort. A shield will almost certainly give more SH than the EV you lose by wearing it. Also, blocking is unaffected by [[armour encumbrance]].
+However, shields give high amounts of SH on top of your existing AC/EV. A shield will almost certainly give more SH than the EV you lose by wearing it. Also, blocking is unaffected by [[armour encumbrance]].
 The main costs of wearing a shield are the inability to wield [[hand|two-handed]] weapons, and the shield [[shields#Penalty|penalties]] (which can be reduced and eventually removed with [[Shields skill]]).

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 ==Strategy==
-Generally, SH is less effective per point than EV.
+Generally, 1 point of SH is less effective than 1 point of EV.
 *In almost all cases, +1 EV is a better defense than +1 SH. [[#1 EV vs 1 SH|See below]] for the formulas.
 *There is no limit to the amount of attacks you can dodge. There ''is'' a limit to the attacks you can block in 1 turn.

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 *'''Ranged attack:'''  <code>1d(1.3×to_hit)</code>
-The defender's blocking value is equal to:
+The defender's blocking value is equal to:<ref>{{source ref|0.32.1|player.cc|6078}}<br>Note that "player_shield_class" is half of your displayed SH.</ref>
 *'''All attacks:''' <code>2d(4×SH)/6 - 1</code>
 *Divide by 3 against melee attacks from [[invisible]] opponents.

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-{{version031}}
+{{version032}}
 ''This page is about the Shield [[stat]]. For shields in general, see [[Shields]]. For the player [[skill]], see [[Shields (skill)]].''
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 ===Calculation===
-If you are wielding a physical shield, its SH is determined as follows:<ref>{{source ref|0.31-b1|player.cc|2200}}<br>These values are divided by 200 by later functions.</ref>
+If you are wielding a physical shield, its SH is determined as follows:<ref>{{source ref|0.32.1|player.cc|2300}}<br>These values are divided by 200 by later functions.</ref>
 *Your '''Base SH''' is determined by type of shield. 3 for [[buckler]]s, 8 for [[kite shield]]s, 13 for [[tower shield]]s.
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 *Add '''[[Dexterity|Stat Bonus]]''' of <code>DEX * 38 * (base_SH + 13) / 5200</code>.
 *Add '''[[Enchant]]ment''' value. +1 enchantment = +1 SH.
-*Add 0.82 SH.<ref>{{source ref|0.31-b1|player.cc|2254}}<br>Divided by 2 by a later function.</ref>
+*Add 0.57 SH.
 All other sources of SH ([[Qazlal]] shield, [[amulet of reflection]]...) are flat bonuses, and are added on top of the physical shield bonus. The final value is rounded to the nearest integer and displayed as the player's SH value.
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 The attacker's pierce value is dependent on their [[to-hit]] (accuracy) and the type of attack:
-* '''Melee attack:''' <code>1d(15 + to_hit/2)</code>
+*'''Melee attack:''' <code>1d(15 + to_hit/2)</code>
-* '''Ranged attack:'''  <code>1d(1.3×to_hit)</code>
+*'''Ranged attack:'''  <code>1d(1.3×to_hit)</code>
 The defender's blocking value is equal to:
-* '''All attacks:''' <code>2d(4×SH)/6 - 1</code>
+*'''All attacks:''' <code>2d(4×SH)/6 - 1</code>
-* Divide by 3 against melee attacks from [[invisible]] opponents.
+*Divide by 3 against melee attacks from [[invisible]] opponents.
 If the blocking value is greater or equal than the attacker's pierce value, and you haven't exceeded the max block count, the attack is blocked.

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 In extreme cases, if you have much more EV than you do SH, gaining +1 SH could be stronger than 1 EV. This only applies for melee attacks. If an enemy has a to-hit of 36:
 *60 EV, 20 SH:
-**Dodge if <code>2d(119) / 2 > 1d(35) - 1</code>; the chance of dodging is 94.36%.
+**Dodge if <code>2d(119) / 2 > 1d(37) - 1</code>; the chance of dodging is 93.36%.
 **Block if <code>2d(79) / 6 >= 1d(33)</code>; the chance of blocking is 39.14%.
-**Chance to either block or dodge is 96.57%.
+**Chance to either block or dodge is 95.96%.
 *50 EV, 30 SH:
-**Dodge if <code>2d(99) / 2 > 1d(35) - 1</code>; the chance of dodging is 91.85%.
+**Dodge if <code>2d(99) / 2 > 1d(37) - 1</code>; the chance of dodging is 90.88%.
 **Block if <code>2d(119) / 6 >= 1d(33)</code>; the chance of blocking is 59.01%.
-**Chance to either block or dodge is 96.66%.
+**Chance to either block or dodge is 96.26%.
 In this case, +10 SH ''technically'' offers more defense than +10 EV. But, since you can only block so many attacks per turn, you should still prefer having EV over the same amount of SH.
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 For ranged attacks, 1 EV is objectively better than 1 SH in all cases.
-Overall, if you have the choice between +1 EV and +1 SH, pick the EV. However, you'll rarely have this choice in practice.
+Overall, if you have the choice between +1 EV and +1 SH, pick the EV. However, you'll rarely have this choice in practice. With even decent Shields skill, the shield EV penalty will be small, so you can often have both high EV and high SH at the same time.
 [[Category:Stats]]

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 *SH blocks if <code>2d(4SH - 1) / 6 >= 1d(15 + to_hit/2)</code>.
-The highest HD of any enemy in the game is 30, so for sake of example, set to-hit = (1.5 * 30 + 18) = 63. Now, let's say you had 30 EV and 30 SH.
+SH becomes relatively better when the enemy's to-hit value rises. The highest HD of any enemy in the game is 30, so for sake of example, set to-hit = (1.5 * 30 + 18) = 63. Now, let's say you had 30 EV and 30 SH.
 *30 EV: <code>2d(59) / 2 > 1d(64) - 1</code>; the chance of dodging is 46.48%.
 *30 SH: <code>2d(119) / 6 >= 1d(46.5)</code>; the chance of blocking is 42.12%.
-In extreme cases, if you have very high EV, 1 SH could be stronger than 1 EV - but only for melee attacks. If an enemy has a to-hit of 36:
+In extreme cases, if you have much more EV than you do SH, gaining +1 SH could be stronger than 1 EV. This only applies for melee attacks. If an enemy has a to-hit of 36:
 *60 EV, 20 SH:
 **Dodge if <code>2d(119) / 2 > 1d(35) - 1</code>; the chance of dodging is 94.36%.
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 **Chance to either block or dodge is 96.66%.
-In this case, +10 SH technically offers more defense than +10 EV. However, you can only block so many attacks per turn, so you should still prefer having the EV over the same amount of SH.
+In this case, +10 SH ''technically'' offers more defense than +10 EV. But, since you can only block so many attacks per turn, you should still prefer having EV over the same amount of SH.
 For ranged attacks, 1 EV is objectively better than 1 SH in all cases.
 [[Category:Stats]]

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 The attacker's pierce value is dependent on their [[to-hit]] (accuracy) and the type of attack:
-* '''Melee attack:''' <code>1d(15 + to_hit/2 + 5×past_blocks^2)</code>
+* '''Melee attack:''' <code>1d(15 + to_hit/2)</code>
-* '''Ranged attack:'''  <code>1d(1.3×to hit + 5×past_blocks^2)</code>
+* '''Ranged attack:'''  <code>1d(1.3×to hit)</code>
 The defender's blocking value is equal to: