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Hordes: /* Merge Mechanics */

2023-11-18T05:12:04Z

‎Merge Mechanics

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i dont know how to manually change the info boxes but i know for a fact that none of these monsters have fast regen anymore

Hordes at 17:39, 15 October 2023

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Hordes: version bump, rw strategy

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version bump, rw strategy

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Spudwalt at 04:23, 15 June 2021

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Spudwalt: /* Tips & Tricks */

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‎Tips & Tricks

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 ==Tips & Tricks==
 ===Merge Mechanics===
-*It's better to fight slime creatures when separated. For instance, 5 individual slimes can deal 5*22 = 110 damage, while titanic slime deals 110 damage. However, when fighting 5 individual slimes, your [[AC]] and [[EV]] benefit you for each of the 5 hits. With a titanic slime, AC and EV are only checked once.
+*It's better to fight slime creatures when separated. Damage may seem similar: fighting 5 individual slimes can deal 5*22 = 110 damage, while a titanic slime deals 110 damage. However, when fighting the individual slimes, your [[AC]] and [[EV]] applies for each of the 5 hits. With the titanic slime, AC and EV are only applied once.
 *Slime creatures generally merge when one slime "wants to move" into another slime's tile.
 **In corridors, you can expect them to merge immediately.

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	:Note that a slime which ''fails'' to split will polymorph into the same sorts of monster as an individual would. That is, you always get the same possibilities, but you have a 20% chance of getting ''one'' monster regardless of size, and for four-and five-fold merges, you have another 16% chance of losing one in the transformation.		:Note that a slime which ''fails'' to split will polymorph into the same sorts of monster as an individual would. That is, you always get the same possibilities, but you have a 20% chance of getting ''one'' monster regardless of size, and for four-and five-fold merges, you have another 16% chance of losing one in the transformation.
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		+	==History==
		+	*Prior to [[0.30]], slime creatures had fast regeneration.

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 **A [[wand of charming]] turns even the biggest slimes into your side. Plus, if you bring a charmed slime into open space, it'll split.
 **[[Agony]] is effective for its raw damage output. However, it can only be used in melee range. Unless you got great defenses, don't try to agony a titanic slime creature; frailer necromancers can get one-shot.
-*When you [[polymorph]] a merged slime creature, there's an 80% chance of it splitting before the polymorph completes. Each resulting slime is then polymorphed (limited to one of the three listed monsters, as usual). The final number of creatures depends on size:
+*When you [[polymorph]] a merged slime creature, there's an 80% chance of it splitting before the polymorph completes, then each resulting slime is polymorphed. As usual, this is limited to one of the three listed monsters you see before using the wand. The final number of creatures depends on size:
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-:Note that a slime which ''fails'' to split will polymorph into the same sorts of monster as an individual would. That is, you always get the same possibilities based on a "slime creature", but you have a 20% chance of getting ''one'' monster regardless of size, and for four-and five-fold merges, you have another 16% chance of losing one in the transformation.
+:Note that a slime which ''fails'' to split will polymorph into the same sorts of monster as an individual would. That is, you always get the same possibilities, but you have a 20% chance of getting ''one'' monster regardless of size, and for four-and five-fold merges, you have another 16% chance of losing one in the transformation.

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 **A [[wand of charming]] turns even the biggest slimes into your side. Plus, if you bring a charmed slime into open space, it'll split.
 **[[Agony]] is effective for its raw damage output. However, it can only be used in melee range. Unless you got great defenses, don't try to agony a titanic slime creature; frailer necromancers can get one-shot.
-*When you [[polymorph]] a merged slime creature, there's an 80% chance of it splitting, where each resulting slime is polymorphed separately. The final number of creatures depends on size:
+*When you [[polymorph]] a merged slime creature, there's an 80% chance of it splitting before the polymorph completes. Each resulting slime is then polymorphed (limited to one of the three listed monsters, as usual). The final number of creatures depends on size:
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 ==Useful Info==
-'''Slime creatures''', a common sight in [[the Dungeon]] and [[Slime Pit]]s, can combine to form larger and larger slime creatures. Two slime creatures combined form a “large slime creature”, three a “very large slime creature”, and so on (see below). As their size increases, so does their HP and damage:
+'''Slime creatures''', a common sight in [[the Dungeon]] and [[Slime Pits]], can combine to form larger and larger slime creatures. Two slime creatures combined form a “large slime creature”, three a “very large slime creature”, and so on (see below). As their size increases, so does their HP and damage:
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 *Slime creatures generally merge when one slime "wants to move" into another slime's tile.
 **In corridors, you can expect them to merge immediately.
 **They'll occasionally merge if a group of slimes are diagonal to you.
 *Slime creatures tend to separate in open space. In practice, if you’re fighting a merged slime creature and there is an adjacent space that is free, they will likely separate. Also, if you leave [[LOS]] of a merged slime, it'll generally split up.
 *Slime creatures cannot merge if they are not adjacent to each other.
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 *The usual tactics of luring individuals away from groups and killing them are vital here. It helps that slime creatures don't make noise.
 *Slimes, no matter how many are merged together, are stuck at 40 [[willpower]]. With moderate skill investment, [[Hexes]] and hex [[wand]]s can be effective. When a merged slime splits, each slime keeps any statuses it had.
-**A [[wand of charming]] turns even the biggest slimes into your side. Plus, if you bring a charmed slime into open space, it will split.
+**A [[wand of charming]] turns even the biggest slimes into your side. Plus, if you bring a charmed slime into open space, it'll split.
-**[[Agony]] is effective for its raw damage output. However, it can only be used in melee range. Unless you got great defenses, don't try to agony a titanic slime creature.
+**[[Agony]] is effective for its raw damage output. However, it can only be used in melee range. Unless you got great defenses, don't try to agony a titanic slime creature; frailer necromancers can get one-shot.
 *When you [[polymorph]] a merged slime creature, there's an 80% chance of it splitting, where each resulting slime is polymorphed separately. The final number of creatures depends on size:
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 ==Useful Info==
-'''Slime creatures''', a common sight in multiple mid-game [[branch]]es, can combine to form larger and larger slime creatures. Two slime creatures combined form a “large slime creature”, three a “very large slime creature”, and so on (see below). As their size increases, so does their HP and damage:
+'''Slime creatures''', a common sight in [[the Dungeon]] and [[Slime Pit]]s, can combine to form larger and larger slime creatures. Two slime creatures combined form a “large slime creature”, three a “very large slime creature”, and so on (see below). As their size increases, so does their HP and damage:
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-A high AC can render you nearly immune to five single slime creatures, but five combined into a titanic slime creature will do enough damage to overwhelm nearly any character. As they merge and grow, however, their [[HD]] and [[willpower]] do not increase, which is relevant for many enchantments. Bigger slimes give less experience than what the individual slimes combined are worth, but ultimately this amount is insignificant.
+Slime creature's [[HD]] and [[willpower]] remains constant. The [[XP]] yield is slightly lower when killing a merged slime creature, but this amount is insignificant.
 ==Tips & Tricks==
-*If you’re fighting them in a corridor, you can expect them to merge immediately. If you’re otherwise surrounded, or the closest position is already filled by a slime creature, they’ll merge. Occasionally, if you are positioned diagonally away from a group, they’ll merge.
+===Merge Mechanics===
-*There are also a few circumstances under which they’ll separate. If you leave their [[LOS]], they'll soon split up. If the closest move to you is an empty space, there’s a chance that they’ll separate. In practice, if you’re fighting a merged slime creature and there is an adjacent space that is free, they will likely separate.
+*It's better to fight slime creatures when separated. For instance, 5 individual slimes can deal 5*22 = 110 damage, while titanic slime deals 110 damage. However, when fighting 5 individual slimes, your [[AC]] and [[EV]] benefit you for each of the 5 hits. With a titanic slime, AC and EV are only checked once.
-*Don’t fight them in corridors and try not to fight them once they’ve merged, as they’ll likely be doing much more damage than multiple single slime creatures would. Thankfully, merged slime creatures are easy to spot: in console mode, their glyphs are a light green, as opposed to the dark green of single slime creatures, while tiles has distinct sprites for each size.
+*Slime creatures generally merge when one slime "wants to move" into another slime's tile.
-*If the slime creatures are already grouped together, kill the ones in the middle first if you can; slime creatures cannot merge if they are separated by a tile or more.
+**In corridors, you can expect them to merge immediately.
 *The usual tactics of luring individuals away from groups and killing them are vital here. It helps that slime creatures don't make noise.
-*Remember that merged slime creatures have the same HD, and hence the same willpower, as unmerged ones. [[Confusing Touch]], [[Slow]], and [[Ensorcelled Hibernation]] will all work just as well on the ginormous blobs as on the little ones. But enormous and titanic slimes might survive a [[stab]] and are still quite capable of obliterating you, even when disabled. Note that 40 will is still quite a lot for an uninvested hex.
+*Slimes, no matter how many are merged together, are stuck at 40 [[willpower]]. With moderate skill investment, [[Hexes]] and hex [[wand]]s can be effective. When a merged slime splits, each slime keeps any statuses it had.
-**[[Agony]] is also very effective, since, as noted, merged slimes are no stronger-willed than normal ones. Using Agony is effective both when luring slimes off one at a time, or to quickly wear down a titanic slime creature, should you accidentally allow one to be created. Be very careful around merged slimes; 110 damage is enough to one-shot many necromancers when they first meet slime creatures.
+**A [[wand of charming]] turns even the biggest slimes into your side. Plus, if you bring a charmed slime into open space, it will split.
-*[[Conjure Flame]] or [[Freezing Cloud]] also does a number on them in corridors, especially if you've got some way to stall them in the clouds.
+**[[Agony]] is effective for its raw damage output. However, it can only be used in melee range. Unless you got great defenses, don't try to agony a titanic slime creature.
-*You probably don't want to [[Polymorph]] a larger slime creature, unless you like the idea of suddenly fighting two [[storm dragon]]s, a [[glowing orange brain]], a [[ghost moth]], and a [[great orb of eyes]]. A merged slime creature has an 80% chance of splitting and having each resulting slime polymorphed separately. The final number of creatures depends on size:
+*When you [[polymorph]] a merged slime creature, there's an 80% chance of it splitting, where each resulting slime is polymorphed separately. The final number of creatures depends on size:
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-Note that a slime which ''fails'' to split will polymorph into the same sorts of monster as an individual would. That is, you always get the same possibilities based on a "slime creature", but you have a 20% chance of getting ''one'' monster regardless of size, and for four-and five-fold merges, you have another 16% chance of losing one in the transformation.
+:Note that a slime which ''fails'' to split will polymorph into the same sorts of monster as an individual would. That is, you always get the same possibilities based on a "slime creature", but you have a 20% chance of getting ''one'' monster regardless of size, and for four-and five-fold merges, you have another 16% chance of losing one in the transformation.

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 ==Useful Info==
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 ! Name || Image || # of Slimes || HP || Damage
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-| slime creature || {{Green|J}} [[Image:Slime creature.png]] || 1 || 46 - 70 || 22
+| slime creature || {{Green|J}} [[Image:Slime creature.png]] || 1 || 39 - 81 || 22
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-| large<br>slime creature  || {{LightGreen|J}} [[Image:Slime creature2.png]] || 2 || 92 - 140 || 44
+| large<br>slime creature  || {{LightGreen|J}} [[Image:Slime creature2.png]] || 2 || 78 - 162 || 44
 |-
-| very large<br>slime creature || {{LightGreen|J}} [[Image:Slime creature3.png]] || 3 || 138 - 210 || 66
+| very large<br>slime creature || {{LightGreen|J}} [[Image:Slime creature3.png]] || 3 || 117 - 243 || 66
 |-
-| enormous<br>slime creature || {{LightGreen|J}} [[Image:Slime creature4.png]] || 4 || 184 - 280 || 88
+| enormous<br>slime creature || {{LightGreen|J}} [[Image:Slime creature4.png]] || 4 || 156 - 324 || 88
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-| titanic<br>slime creature || {{LightGreen|J}} [[Image:Slime creature5.png]] || 5 || 230 - 350 || 110
+| titanic<br>slime creature || {{LightGreen|J}} [[Image:Slime creature5.png]] || 5 || 195 - 405 || 110
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-A high AC can render you nearly immune to five single slime creatures, but five combined into a titanic slime creature will do enough damage to overwhelm nearly any character. As they merge and grow, the experience they grant also rises, though their [[HD]] and [[MR]] do not increase, which is relevant for many enchantments.  Note that you do ''not'' get more experience for killing one titanic slime than for killing five normal ones — you, in fact, get less.
+A high AC can render you nearly immune to five single slime creatures, but five combined into a titanic slime creature will do enough damage to overwhelm nearly any character. As they merge and grow, however, their [[HD]] and [[willpower]] do not increase, which is relevant for many enchantments. They also grant more experience, but do note that you do ''not'' get more experience for killing one titanic slime than for killing five normal ones — the total is, in fact, somewhat less. Ultimately, though the amount of additional experience you would have earned from waiting for a conglomerate to de-merge is fairly insignificant in the long run, so kill slime creatures however you can.
 ==Tips & Tricks==
 *If you’re fighting them in a corridor, you can expect them to merge immediately. If you’re otherwise surrounded, or the closest position is already filled by a slime creature, they’ll merge. Occasionally, if you are positioned diagonally away from a group, they’ll merge.
 *There are also a few circumstances under which they’ll separate. If you leave their [[LOS]], they'll soon split up. If the closest move to you is an empty space, there’s a chance that they’ll separate. In practice, if you’re fighting a merged slime creature and there is an adjacent space that is free, they will likely separate.
-*Don’t fight them in corridors and try not to fight them once they’ve merged, as they’ll likely be doing much more damage than multiple single slime creatures would. Thankfully, merged slime creatures are easy to spot: their glyphs are a light green, as opposed to the dark green of single slime creatures.
+*Don’t fight them in corridors and try not to fight them once they’ve merged, as they’ll likely be doing much more damage than multiple single slime creatures would. Thankfully, merged slime creatures are easy to spot: in console mode, their glyphs are a light green, as opposed to the dark green of single slime creatures, while tiles has distinct sprites for each size.
 *If the slime creatures are already grouped together, kill the ones in the middle first if you can; slime creatures cannot merge if they are separated by a tile or more.
 *The usual tactics of luring individuals away from groups and killing them are vital here. It helps that slime creatures don't make noise.
-*Be aware that merged slime creatures have the same HD, and hence the same MR, as unmerged ones. [[Confusing Touch]], [[Slow]], and [[Ensorcelled Hibernation]] will all work just as well on the ginormous blobs as on the little ones. Be wary, however, of attempting to stab disabled enormous or titanic slime creatures: even disabled, they are quite capable of obliterating you (in the case of sleeping ones, their HP may be high enough that you fail to stab them to death in one hit). Such hexes are best used to keep out of melee range and pelt the slime creature from afar. Be aware their MR of 40 is high enough to make enchanting them difficult for those who haven't dedicated themselves to using Hexes.
+*Be aware that merged slime creatures have the same HD, and hence the same willpower, as unmerged ones. [[Confusing Touch]], [[Slow]], and [[Ensorcelled Hibernation]] will all work just as well on the ginormous blobs as on the little ones. Be wary, however, of attempting to stab disabled enormous or titanic slime creatures: even disabled, they are quite capable of obliterating you (in the case of sleeping ones, their HP may be high enough that you fail to stab them to death in one hit). Such hexes are best used to keep out of melee range and pelt the slime creature from afar. Be aware their 40 willpower is high enough to make enchanting them difficult for those who haven't dedicated themselves to using Hexes.
-*[[Agony]] is also very effective, since, as noted, merged slimes have no more MR than normal ones. Using Agony is effective both when luring slimes off one at a time, or to quickly wear down a titanic slime creature, should you accidentally allow one to be created. Be very careful around merged slimes; 110 damage is enough to one-shot many necromancers when they first meet slime creatures.
+*[[Agony]] is also very effective, since, as noted, merged slimes are no stronger-willed than normal ones. Using Agony is effective both when luring slimes off one at a time, or to quickly wear down a titanic slime creature, should you accidentally allow one to be created. Be very careful around merged slimes; 110 damage is enough to one-shot many necromancers when they first meet slime creatures.
 *[[Conjure Flame]] or [[Freezing Cloud]] also does a number on them in corridors, especially if you've got some way to stall them in the clouds.
 *You probably don't want to [[Polymorph]] a larger slime creature, unless you like the idea of suddenly fighting two [[storm dragon]]s, a [[glowing orange brain]], a [[ghost moth]], and a [[great orb of eyes]]. A merged slime creature has an 80% chance of splitting and having each resulting slime polymorphed separately. The final number of creatures depends on size: