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 ==Strategy==
-In ''Crawl'', Stealth is generally poor as your "main" offensive skill. If sleep-stabbing is the only way you can kill things, and the enemy wakes up, then you have a problem. This means a way to kill awake monsters is necessary, but if you have one, then stealth becomes superfluous. Therefore, "stabber" characters typically use a way to disable foes ([[Hexes]], [[Petrify]], [[Uskayaw]], etc.) instead of just sneaking up to enemies.
+In ''Crawl'', Stealth is generally poor as a "main" offensive skill. If sleep-stabbing is the only way you can kill things, and the enemy wakes up, then you have a problem. This means a way to kill awake monsters is necessary, but if you have one, then stealth becomes superfluous. Therefore, "stabber" characters typically rely on a way to disable foes ([[Hexes]], [[Petrify]], [[Uskayaw]], etc.) instead of using Stealth to sneak up on enemies.
-Instead, stealth is often used as a defensive skill. It can help you avoid dangerous monsters, such as [[Sigmund]], [[orc priest]]s and [[centaur (monster)|centaurs]]. If you've been [[shaft]]ed, stealth can help you avoid encounters on the way back up.
+Instead, stealth is often used as a defensive skill. It can help you avoid dangerous monsters, such as [[Sigmund]], [[orc priest]]s and [[centaur (monster)|centaurs]]. If you've been [[shaft]]ed, stealth can help you avoid encounters on the way back up. Also, Stealth skill increases stab damage and chance to stab, so stabbers will want some amount of it.
-[[Armour encumbrance]] reduces stealth score by a flat amount. [[Plate armour]] reduces it by -214, equal to 14.4 levels of Stealth skill, so its hard for heavy melee brutes to benefit at all from stealth.
+[[Armour encumbrance]] reduces stealth score by a flat amount. [[Plate armour]] reduces it by -214, equal to 14.4 levels of Stealth skill, so its hard for heavy melee brutes to benefit at all from stealth without a set of [[shadow dragon scales]].
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 ==Strategy==
-In ''Crawl'', Stealth is generally poor as your "main" offensive skill. If stabbing is the only way you can kill things, and the enemy wakes up, then you have a problem. You'll need a way to kill awake monsters. But, if you have a way to kill awake monsters, stealth becomes superfluous. If you have a way to stab awake foes ([[Hexes]], [[Petrify]], [[Uskayaw]], etc.), though, then "hex stabber" stealth can be a good way to deal with monsters.
+In ''Crawl'', Stealth is generally poor as your "main" offensive skill. If sleep-stabbing is the only way you can kill things, and the enemy wakes up, then you have a problem. This means a way to kill awake monsters is necessary, but if you have one, then stealth becomes superfluous. Therefore, "stabber" characters typically use a way to disable foes ([[Hexes]], [[Petrify]], [[Uskayaw]], etc.) instead of just sneaking up to enemies.
 Instead, stealth is often used as a defensive skill. It can help you avoid dangerous monsters, such as [[Sigmund]], [[orc priest]]s and [[centaur (monster)|centaurs]]. If you've been [[shaft]]ed, stealth can help you avoid encounters on the way back up.

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 ==Strategy==
-In ''Crawl'', Stealth is generally poor as your "main" offensive skill. If stabbing is the only way you can kill things, and the enemy wakes up, then you have a problem. You'll need a way to kill awake monsters. But, if you have a way to kill awake monsters, stealth becomes superfluous. If you have a way to stab awake foes ([[Hexes]], [[Petrify]], [[Uskayaw]], etc.), though, then stealth can be a good supplement to your offenses.
+In ''Crawl'', Stealth is generally poor as your "main" offensive skill. If stabbing is the only way you can kill things, and the enemy wakes up, then you have a problem. You'll need a way to kill awake monsters. But, if you have a way to kill awake monsters, stealth becomes superfluous. If you have a way to stab awake foes ([[Hexes]], [[Petrify]], [[Uskayaw]], etc.), though, then "hex stabber" stealth can be a good way to deal with monsters.
 Instead, stealth is often used as a defensive skill. It can help you avoid dangerous monsters, such as [[Sigmund]], [[orc priest]]s and [[centaur (monster)|centaurs]]. If you've been [[shaft]]ed, stealth can help you avoid encounters on the way back up.

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 Instead, stealth is often used as a defensive skill. It can help you avoid dangerous monsters, such as [[Sigmund]], [[orc priest]]s and [[centaur (monster)|centaurs]]. If you've been [[shaft]]ed, stealth can help you avoid encounters on the way back up.
-[[Armour encumbrance]] reduces stealth score by a flat amount. [[Plate armour]] reduces score by -214, equal to 14.4 levels of Stealth skill. So it's very hard for heavy melee characters to be stealthy.
+[[Armour encumbrance]] reduces stealth score by a flat amount. [[Plate armour]] reduces it by -214, equal to 14.4 levels of Stealth skill, so its hard for heavy melee brutes to benefit at all from stealth.
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 ''This page refers to the Stealth [[skill]]. For the stat and mechanic, see [[stealth]].''
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 {{skill aptitudes|Stealth}}
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 The '''Stealth''' [[skill]] is a representation of how well your character understands the art of moving silently. Until your adventurer blunders into the [[Dungeon]] and starts killing everything, most monsters spend their time sleeping or wandering about peacefully. Stealth decreases the chance that you are detected, increases the power of [[stab]]bing unweary monsters, and increases the effectiveness of some status-inflicting [[dart]]s.
-For every point of stealth, you gain 15 [[stealth]] score. Note that there's many other factors in determining stealth score, such as [[armour]], [[size]], and [[dexterity]]. This stat is used for detection, but not stabs or darts. Stealth skill (not score) is also directly used to open [[door]]s; each time you open a door, the chance of it making noise is <code>1 / ( (4/3 * [[Stealth]]) + 8 )</code>.
+For every point of stealth, you gain 15 [[stealth]] score. Note that there's many other factors in determining stealth score, such as [[armour]], [[size]], and [[dexterity]]. This score is used for detection, but not stabs or darts. Stealth skill (not score) is also directly used to open [[door]]s; each time you open a door, the chance of it making noise is <code>1 / ( (4/3 * [[Stealth]]) + 8 )</code>.
 {{skill aptitudes|Stealth}}