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Slobodan: /* Strategy */

2023-12-20T17:38:20Z

‎Strategy

Hordes at 14:21, 6 November 2023

2023-11-06T14:21:36Z

Hordes: stones' accuracy/speed bonuses are the same

2023-11-06T03:38:07Z

stones' accuracy/speed bonuses are the same

Hordes: why stones feel/felt weak at high skill

2023-10-08T19:04:01Z

why stones feel/felt weak at high skill

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2023-07-21T19:58:12Z

‎Strategy

Ge0ff: /* Strategy */ orc warlord's base damage is 27, stones have 2 base damage, so it should be 29 damage max

2023-07-12T14:45:39Z

‎Strategy: orc warlord's base damage is 27, stones have 2 base damage, so it should be 29 damage max

Hordes: note on monster stones

2023-07-11T04:07:04Z

note on monster stones

Hordes at 14:04, 21 June 2023

2023-06-21T14:04:31Z

Hordes: version bump, slight wording

2023-06-16T17:22:16Z

version bump, slight wording

Hordes at 11:16, 16 June 2023

2023-06-16T11:16:43Z

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 ** This can be used to split up packs. Many monsters will [[shout]] after hearing a noise, waking up the whole pack. However, when a monster shouts, the [[noise]] is projected on ''their'' tile, not yours. Because some monsters only hear that shout, they won't know your actual location. Some monsters will wander towards the shout (then a random direction), others towards the direction of the stone. Therefore, some monsters will be split from the pack. This doesn't work on [[:Category:Herd flag|herd]] animals like [[yak]]s.
 * If you hit an enemy, it will always notice you. If you want a monster to notice you, it's better to throw a stone than to wait around or shout yourself.
 You can largely disregard stones the moment you find a better ranged option.

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 -Emily Dickinson, "How happy is the little Stone". ca. 1865.}}
-'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early character deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the damage bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.
+'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early characters deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the damage bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.
 Stones are always [[mulch]]ed (destroyed) after being thrown.

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 -Emily Dickinson, "How happy is the little Stone". ca. 1865.}}
-'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early character deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.
+'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early character deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the damage bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.
 Stones are always [[mulch]]ed (destroyed) after being thrown.

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   |damage = 2
   |basedelay = 11 (110%)
-  |mindelay = 7 at [[Throwing]] skill 8
+  |mindelay = 7 (at [[Throwing]] skill 8)
 }}
 {{flavour|A small chunk of dense but otherwise unremarkable natural mineral. It can be thrown to cause minor damage.
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 -Emily Dickinson, "How happy is the little Stone". ca. 1865.}}
-'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they are the fastest throwing weapon available.
+'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early character deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.
 Stones are always [[mulch]]ed (destroyed) after being thrown.
 ==Strategy==
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 *Prior to [[0.29]], stones could be used for [[hunting sling]]s, [[fustibali]], and [[Sandblast]]. They were more common, and only [[mulch]]ed 12.5% of the time.
 *Prior to [[0.20]], Sandblast did not require stones to function.
-*Prior to [[0.17]], stones were particulalry useful as an anti-jelly weapon, as jellies would eat most other projectiles and heal by doing so.
+*Prior to [[0.17]], stones were particularly useful as an anti-[[jelly]] weapon, as jellies would eat most other projectiles and heal by doing so.
 *Prior to [[0.11]], [[mulch]]ing a [[large rock]] would create a stack of stones.
 {{weapons}}
 [[Category:Slings]][[Category:Throwing]]

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 * If you can't attack from range, you might as well throw a stone. Stones let you deal some extra damage against [[adder]]s and other melee enemies.
 * Stones create a soft [[noise]] where they land. If you throw a stone at the edge of [[line of sight]], you can quietly attract enemies that were just out of sight.
-** This can be used to split up packs. Many monsters will [[shout]] after hearing a noise, waking up the whole pack. However, when a monster shouts, the [[noise]] is projected on ''their'' tile, not yours. Because some monsters only hear that shout, they won't know your actual location. Some monsters will wander in a random direction, others towards the direction of a stone. Therefore, some monsters will be split from the pack. This doesn't work on [[:Category:Herd flag|herd]] animals like [[yak]]s.
+** This can be used to split up packs. Many monsters will [[shout]] after hearing a noise, waking up the whole pack. However, when a monster shouts, the [[noise]] is projected on ''their'' tile, not yours. Because some monsters only hear that shout, they won't know your actual location. Some monsters will wander towards the shout (then a random direction), others towards the direction of the stone. Therefore, some monsters will be split from the pack. This doesn't work on [[:Category:Herd flag|herd]] animals like [[yak]]s.
-* If you hit an enemy, it will always notice you. If you want a monster to notice you, it's better to throw a stone than to wait around.
+* If you hit an enemy, it will always notice you. If you want a monster to notice you, it's better to throw a stone than to wait around or shout yourself.
 You can largely disregard stones the moment you find a better ranged option.

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 You can largely disregard stones the moment you find a better ranged option.
-Note that stones used by monsters will use the monster's base damage. For example, an [[orc warlord]] will deal up to 34 damage with a stone.
+Note that stones used by monsters will use the monster's base damage. For example, an [[orc warlord]] will deal up to 29 damage with a stone.
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 {{ThrowingMissile
   |name = Stone
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 Stones are useful for a couple of reasons:
 * If you can't attack from range, you might as well throw a stone. Stones let you deal some extra damage against [[adder]]s and other melee enemies.
-* Stones create a soft [[noise]] where they land. If you throw a stone at the edge of [[line of sight]], you can quietly attract enemies that were out of sight.
+* Stones create a soft [[noise]] where they land. If you throw a stone at the edge of [[line of sight]], you can quietly attract enemies that were just out of sight.
 ** This can be used to split up packs. Many monsters will [[shout]] after hearing a noise, waking up the whole pack. However, when a monster shouts, the [[noise]] is projected on ''their'' tile, not yours. Because some monsters only hear that shout, they won't know your actual location. Some monsters will wander in a random direction, others towards the direction of a stone. Therefore, some monsters will be split from the pack. This doesn't work on [[:Category:Herd flag|herd]] animals like [[yak]]s.
 * If you hit an enemy, it will always notice you. If you want a monster to notice you, it's better to throw a stone than to wait around.