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		<title>Spudwalt: /* Average Aptitudes: Why. */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Average Aptitudes: Why.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Someone else had already written the function, and it seemed interesting to me for the reasons Hordes mentioned (I’d been curious about it even before seeing the function was there). Including Gnolls was just an oversight, I will fix that when I get a chance. I’m not attached to it though if you decide to delete [[User:Pisaster|Pisaster]] ([[User talk:Pisaster|talk]]) 09:26, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Someone else had already written the function, and it seemed interesting to me for the reasons Hordes mentioned (I’d been curious about it even before seeing the function was there). Including Gnolls was just an oversight, I will fix that when I get a chance. I’m not attached to it though if you decide to delete [[User:Pisaster|Pisaster]] ([[User talk:Pisaster|talk]]) 09:26, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:: I'm not opposed to having the function floating around in the wiki's code (it's probably a relic from when skill pages used to list averages), I'm more just wondering what purpose it serves hanging around on the main Aptitude page. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 09:30, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Spudwalt</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aptitude&amp;diff=65948&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Pisaster at 07:26, 13 September 2022</title>
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				<updated>2022-09-13T07:26:50Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Also I assumed that Gnolls were included (largely for safety), and checking Modules:Aptitude doesn't disclude gnolls or anything. It's not like Gn are explicitly included, but an average didn't filter them out yet. --[[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 08:59, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Also I assumed that Gnolls were included (largely for safety), and checking Modules:Aptitude doesn't disclude gnolls or anything. It's not like Gn are explicitly included, but an average didn't filter them out yet. --[[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 08:59, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: Someone else had already written the function, and it seemed interesting to me for the reasons Hordes mentioned (I’d been curious about it even before seeing the function was there). Including Gnolls was just an oversight, I will fix that when I get a chance. I’m not attached to it though if you decide to delete [[User:Pisaster|Pisaster]] ([[User talk:Pisaster|talk]]) 09:26, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Pisaster</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Talk:Aptitude&amp;diff=65935&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Hordes: /* Average Aptitudes: Why. */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Average Aptitudes: Why.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l6&quot; &gt;Line 6:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also, why include Gnolls? Their whole schtick is having arbitrarily-high aptitudes because they're forced to train all skills. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 08:51, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also, why include Gnolls? Their whole schtick is having arbitrarily-high aptitudes because they're forced to train all skills. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 08:51, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Well, for me at least, it's trivia like how &amp;quot;Kobolds were originally creatures from Germanic mythology&amp;quot; are. It's amusing for general data purposes, and close enough to Human where players won't really be mislead. There are also some species trends (high Hexes, boosted by stuff like Vp/Mu/Sp) which are somewhat useful for comparing spell schools in a game design sense (&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;buffing/nerfing&lt;/del&gt;...)&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Well, for me at least, it's trivia like how &amp;quot;Kobolds were originally creatures from Germanic mythology&amp;quot; are. It's amusing for general data purposes, and close enough to Human where players won't really be mislead. There are also some species trends (high Hexes, boosted by stuff like Vp/Mu/Sp) which are somewhat useful for comparing spell schools in a game design sense (&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;can't buff too much when&lt;/ins&gt;...)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Also I assumed that Gnolls were included (largely for safety), and checking Modules:Aptitude doesn't disclude gnolls or anything. It's not like Gn are explicitly included, but an average didn't filter them out yet. --[[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 08:59, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Also I assumed that Gnolls were included (largely for safety), and checking Modules:Aptitude doesn't disclude gnolls or anything. It's not like Gn are explicitly included, but an average didn't filter them out yet. --[[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 08:59, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Hordes: /* Average Aptitudes: Why. */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Average Aptitudes: Why.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also, why include Gnolls? Their whole schtick is having arbitrarily-high aptitudes because they're forced to train all skills. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 08:51, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Also, why include Gnolls? Their whole schtick is having arbitrarily-high aptitudes because they're forced to train all skills. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 08:51, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: Well, for me at least, it's trivia like how &amp;quot;Kobolds were originally creatures from Germanic mythology&amp;quot; are. It's amusing for general data purposes, and close enough to Human where players won't really be mislead. There are also some species trends (high Hexes, boosted by stuff like Vp/Mu/Sp) which are somewhat useful for comparing spell schools in a game design sense (buffing/nerfing...).&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: Also I assumed that Gnolls were included (largely for safety), and checking Modules:Aptitude doesn't disclude gnolls or anything. It's not like Gn are explicitly included, but an average didn't filter them out yet. --[[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 08:59, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Spudwalt: Created page with &quot;==Average Aptitudes: Why.== Why does this table matter, and why would anyone care?  &quot;Average&quot; aptitude (as in, what all other aptitudes are compared to) is canonically 0 -- I...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;==Average Aptitudes: Why.== Why does this table matter, and why would anyone care?  &amp;quot;Average&amp;quot; aptitude (as in, what all other aptitudes are compared to) is canonically 0 -- I...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&amp;quot;Average&amp;quot; aptitude (as in, what all other aptitudes are compared to) is canonically 0 -- I don't see what benefit anyone could get from knowing that the mean Short Blades aptitude of all species currently in the game is 0.308. If you're playing the game, you're going to be looking at your species' aptitude for Short Blades, and judging whether you should use that nice rapier you found based on how your aptitude compares to 0, not how it compares to how good ''everything'' is at Short Blades in general.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, why include Gnolls? Their whole schtick is having arbitrarily-high aptitudes because they're forced to train all skills. [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt|talk]]) 08:51, 13 September 2022 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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