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BlueCrake: Sif Muna protection from Necromancy?

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Sif Muna protection from Necromancy?

Ion frigate at 06:33, 4 April 2013

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Spudwalt: Created page with "Are weapons of speed really that much more useful than god-blessed weapons? ~~~~"

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Are weapons of speed really that much more useful than god-blessed weapons? [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] 23:31, 3 April 2013 (CEST)

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−	The chapter about Sif Muna mentions, that she will not protect you from Necromancy miscasts. Her own page just says she will protect you from miscasts. Which one is correct?	+	The chapter about Sif Muna mentions, that she will not protect you from Necromancy miscasts. Her own page just says she will protect you from miscasts. Which one is correct? --[[User:BlueCrake\|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake\|talk]]) 18:00, 18 May 2014 (CEST)

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	:Not really; that should probably be removed. Most speed weapons will be doing 90% damage at 7/4 = 1.75x the rate of a normal weapon, for a total damage output of 1.575x that of a normal, unbranded weapon. A weapon of holy wrath does an average of 1.75x damage against vulnerable targets. Technically, if you're considering weapons with a base delay of 6, the speed weapon does more damage. Except that the only worthwhile speed 6 weapons are demon blades and demon tridents, which will bless to eudemon blades and trishulas, whose increased base damage will more than compensate. So yes, an Okawaru/Trog-gifted giant spiked club of speed is actually slightly worse in Pan than a TSO-blessed GSC.		:Not really; that should probably be removed. Most speed weapons will be doing 90% damage at 7/4 = 1.75x the rate of a normal weapon, for a total damage output of 1.575x that of a normal, unbranded weapon. A weapon of holy wrath does an average of 1.75x damage against vulnerable targets. Technically, if you're considering weapons with a base delay of 6, the speed weapon does more damage. Except that the only worthwhile speed 6 weapons are demon blades and demon tridents, which will bless to eudemon blades and trishulas, whose increased base damage will more than compensate. So yes, an Okawaru/Trog-gifted giant spiked club of speed is actually slightly worse in Pan than a TSO-blessed GSC.
	:Obviously the speed weapons will be better against non-unholy targets, and so are of course worth keeping around. Also, since they're artefacts, they might have useful properties that make it worth the small loss of damage against a comparable holy weapon, though that may be situational. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 08:32, 4 April 2013 (CEST)		:Obviously the speed weapons will be better against non-unholy targets, and so are of course worth keeping around. Also, since they're artefacts, they might have useful properties that make it worth the small loss of damage against a comparable holy weapon, though that may be situational. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 08:32, 4 April 2013 (CEST)
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		+	The chapter about Sif Muna mentions, that she will not protect you from Necromancy miscasts. Her own page just says she will protect you from miscasts. Which one is correct?

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 Are weapons of speed really that much more useful than god-blessed weapons? [[User:Spudwalt|--spudwalt]] 23:31, 3 April 2013 (CEST)
 :Not really; that should probably be removed.  Most speed weapons will be doing 90% damage at 7/4 = 1.75x the rate of a normal weapon, for a total damage output of 1.575x that of a normal, unbranded weapon.  A weapon of holy wrath does an average of 1.75x damage against vulnerable targets.  Technically, if you're considering weapons with a base delay of 6, the speed weapon does more damage.  Except that the only worthwhile speed 6 weapons are demon blades and demon tridents, which will bless to eudemon blades and trishulas, whose increased base damage will more than compensate.  So yes, an Okawaru/Trog-gifted giant spiked club of speed is actually slightly worse in Pan than a TSO-blessed GSC.
-:Obviously the speed weapons *will* be better against non-unholy targets, and so are of course worth keeping around.  Also, since they're artefacts, they might have useful properties that make it worth the small loss of damage against a comparable holy weapon. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 08:32, 4 April 2013 (CEST)
+:Obviously the speed weapons *will* be better against non-unholy targets, and so are of course worth keeping around.  Also, since they're artefacts, they might have useful properties that make it worth the small loss of damage against a comparable holy weapon, though that may be situational. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 08:32, 4 April 2013 (CEST)

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	Are weapons of speed really that much more useful than god-blessed weapons? [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] 23:31, 3 April 2013 (CEST)		Are weapons of speed really that much more useful than god-blessed weapons? [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] 23:31, 3 April 2013 (CEST)
−	:Not really; that should probably be removed. Most speed weapons will be doing 90% damage at 7/4 = 1.75x the rate of a normal weapon, for a total damage output of 1.575x that of a normal, unbranded weapon. A weapon of holy wrath does an average of 1.75x damage against vulnerable targets. Technically, if you're considering weapons with a base delay of 6, the speed weapon does more damage. Except that the only worthwhile speed 6 weapons are demon blades and demon tridents, which will bless to eudemon blades and trishulas, whose increased base damage will more than compensate. So yes, an Okawaru/Trog-gifted giant spiked club of speed is actually slightly worse in Pan than a TSO-blessed GSC. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 08:32, 4 April 2013 (CEST)	+	:Not really; that should probably be removed. Most speed weapons will be doing 90% damage at 7/4 = 1.75x the rate of a normal weapon, for a total damage output of 1.575x that of a normal, unbranded weapon. A weapon of holy wrath does an average of 1.75x damage against vulnerable targets. Technically, if you're considering weapons with a base delay of 6, the speed weapon does more damage. Except that the only worthwhile speed 6 weapons are demon blades and demon tridents, which will bless to eudemon blades and trishulas, whose increased base damage will more than compensate. So yes, an Okawaru/Trog-gifted giant spiked club of speed is actually slightly worse in Pan than a TSO-blessed GSC.
		+	:Obviously the speed weapons will be better against non-unholy targets, and so are of course worth keeping around. Also, since they're artefacts, they might have useful properties that make it worth the small loss of damage against a comparable holy weapon. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 08:32, 4 April 2013 (CEST)

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	Are weapons of speed really that much more useful than god-blessed weapons? [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] 23:31, 3 April 2013 (CEST)		Are weapons of speed really that much more useful than god-blessed weapons? [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] 23:31, 3 April 2013 (CEST)
		+	:Not really; that should probably be removed. Most speed weapons will be doing 90% damage at 7/4 = 1.75x the rate of a normal weapon, for a total damage output of 1.575x that of a normal, unbranded weapon. A weapon of holy wrath does an average of 1.75x damage against vulnerable targets. Technically, if you're considering weapons with a base delay of 6, the speed weapon does more damage. Except that the only worthwhile speed 6 weapons are demon blades and demon tridents, which will bless to eudemon blades and trishulas, whose increased base damage will more than compensate. So yes, an Okawaru/Trog-gifted giant spiked club of speed is actually slightly worse in Pan than a TSO-blessed GSC. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 08:32, 4 April 2013 (CEST)