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		<id>http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Talk:Enfeeble&amp;diff=85577&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Netpet at 01:51, 28 February 2026</title>
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison, Kiku's spell gift...), a universially useful &amp;quot;parting gift&amp;quot; after you swap from hexes. I don't recommend to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble; I believe it's not nearly as good as, say, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/del&gt;OoD&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;]]&lt;/del&gt;, as a L7 killdudes spell. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison, Kiku's spell gift...), a universially useful &amp;quot;parting gift&amp;quot; after you swap from hexes. I don't recommend to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble; I believe it's not nearly as good as, say, OoD, as a L7 killdudes spell. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: So I'm not sure what Hexers can kill things with past Confusing Touch and before Enfeeble (besides Anguish, which requires summon/necro). That's why there is a bias towards Former hexes rather than current.&amp;#160; It is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who haven't. I didn't consider light armour DEX dudes either. ~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: So I'm not sure what Hexers can kill things with past Confusing Touch and before Enfeeble (besides Anguish, which requires summon/necro). That's why there is a bias towards Former hexes rather than current.&amp;#160; It is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who haven't. I didn't consider light armour DEX dudes either. ~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Netpet</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
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		<title>Hordes at 03:02, 30 September 2022</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison, Kiku's spell gift...). I don't recommend to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble; I believe it's not nearly as good as, say, [[OoD]], as a L7 killdudes spell. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison, Kiku's spell gift...)&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;, a universially useful &amp;quot;parting gift&amp;quot; after you swap from hexes&lt;/ins&gt;. I don't recommend to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble; I believe it's not nearly as good as, say, [[OoD]], as a L7 killdudes spell. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: So I'm not sure what Hexers can kill things with past Confusing Touch and before Enfeeble (besides Anguish, which requires summon/necro). That's why there is a bias towards Former hexes rather than current.&amp;#160; It is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who haven't. I didn't consider light armour DEX dudes either. ~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: So I'm not sure what Hexers can kill things with past Confusing Touch and before Enfeeble (besides Anguish, which requires summon/necro). That's why there is a bias towards Former hexes rather than current.&amp;#160; It is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who haven't. I didn't consider light armour DEX dudes either. ~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Hordes: /* Strategy */</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Strategy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison, Kiku's spell gift...). I don't recommend to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble; I believe it's not nearly as good as, say, [[&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;OOD&lt;/del&gt;]], as a L7 killdudes spell. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison, Kiku's spell gift...). I don't recommend to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble; I believe it's not nearly as good as, say, [[&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;OoD&lt;/ins&gt;]], as a L7 killdudes spell. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: So I'm not sure what Hexers can kill things with past Confusing Touch and before Enfeeble (besides Anguish, which requires summon/necro). That's why there is a bias towards Former hexes rather than current.&amp;#160; It is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who haven't. I didn't consider light armour DEX dudes either. ~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: So I'm not sure what Hexers can kill things with past Confusing Touch and before Enfeeble (besides Anguish, which requires summon/necro). That's why there is a bias towards Former hexes rather than current.&amp;#160; It is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who haven't. I didn't consider light armour DEX dudes either. ~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Hordes at 02:59, 30 September 2022</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot; &gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison, Kiku's spell gift...). I don't recommend to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble; I believe it's not nearly as good as, say, [[OOD]], as a L7 killdudes spell. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison, Kiku's spell gift...). I don't recommend to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble; I believe it's not nearly as good as, say, [[OOD]], as a L7 killdudes spell. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: So I'm not sure what Hexers can kill things with past Confusing Touch and before Enfeeble (besides Anguish, which requires summon/necro). That's why there is a bias towards Former hexes rather than current. &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;I didn't consider light armour dudes eitherIt &lt;/del&gt;is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who haven't. &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt; &lt;/del&gt;~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: So I'm not sure what Hexers can kill things with past Confusing Touch and before Enfeeble (besides Anguish, which requires summon/necro). That's why there is a bias towards Former hexes rather than current. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt; It &lt;/ins&gt;is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who haven't. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;I didn't consider light armour DEX dudes either. &lt;/ins&gt;~~&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Talk:Enfeeble&amp;diff=66454&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Hordes at 02:59, 30 September 2022</title>
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				<updated>2022-09-30T02:59:31Z</updated>
		
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 02:59, 30 September 2022&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison). &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;It isn&lt;/del&gt;'t &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;recommended &lt;/del&gt;to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;but yeah &lt;/del&gt;current &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;hex specialists can use them&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;It &lt;/del&gt;is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;haen&lt;/del&gt;'t.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;, Kiku's spell gift...&lt;/ins&gt;). &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;I don&lt;/ins&gt;'t &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;recommend &lt;/ins&gt;to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;; I believe it's not nearly as good as, say, [[OOD]], as a L7 killdudes spell. &lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;: So I'm not sure what Hexers can kill things with past Confusing Touch and before Enfeeble (besides Anguish&lt;/ins&gt;, &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;which requires summon/necro). That's why there is a bias towards Former hexes rather than &lt;/ins&gt;current. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;I didn't consider light armour dudes eitherIt &lt;/ins&gt;is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;haven&lt;/ins&gt;'t. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt; ~~&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Hordes at 02:52, 30 September 2022</title>
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				<updated>2022-09-30T02:52:27Z</updated>
		
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: Capstone means top of class (Noxious Bog for poison). It isn't recommended to train Hexes *just* for Enfeeble, but yeah current hex specialists can use them. It is useful for players who have swapped - not that it isn't for those who haen't.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Talk:Enfeeble&amp;diff=66448&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Pisaster: /* Strategy */ new section</title>
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				<updated>2022-09-29T16:35:35Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Strategy: &lt;/span&gt; new section&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Strategy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I’m not sure I understand the new strategy section. What is meant by capstone? Why former hex specialists and not current hex specialists (by giving irresistible effects it does a good job rounding out the rest of the school, and the blind allows stabs, which complements the common enchanter play style)? Why players who swapped to a different magical means of killing, but not those who have swapped to a light armor physical build (dex weapons)?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Pisaster</name></author>	</entry>

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