Talk:Formicid (monster) - Revision history

Spudwalt: /* not quite obsolete */ new section

2014-04-28T21:31:22Z

‎not quite obsolete: new section

Bwijn: Very instructive information, thanks!

2013-12-17T17:54:24Z

Very instructive information, thanks!

Ion frigate at 23:40, 16 December 2013

2013-12-16T23:40:47Z

CommanderC at 16:54, 16 December 2013

2013-12-16T16:54:47Z

Ion frigate: Created page with "Just a question: I've noticed that the knowledge bots and similar sources seem to "clip" HP ranges: for instance, formicid drones have 4 "base" HP and 6 "extra" HP per HD. Wi..."

2013-12-16T14:59:38Z

Created page with "Just a question: I've noticed that the knowledge bots and similar sources seem to "clip" HP ranges: for instance, formicid drones have 4 "base" HP and 6 "extra" HP per HD. Wi..."

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Just a question: I've noticed that the knowledge bots and similar sources seem to "clip" HP ranges: for instance, formicid drones have 4 "base" HP and 6 "extra" HP per HD. With 4HD, this gave 16-40 HP, as one would expect, but with 6HD, it gives 26-58, instead of the expected 24-60. Is it just clipping the extreme improbability (total chance is something like 1/3500 for 25, 26, 59, or 60 HP), or is there actually something subtle in the code that prevents the extreme values from occurring? -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate|talk]]) 15:59, 16 December 2013 (CET)

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	:::Very instructive information! We should ask the overall maintainer to introduce the 'thank you' procedure, just like big wikipedia recently (this autumn) did. It provides some positive feedback /spirit. I'd surely use it often to thank e.g. CommandeC for this creative approach of stochastical implementations. -- 18:54, 17 December 2013 (CET)		:::Very instructive information! We should ask the overall maintainer to introduce the 'thank you' procedure, just like big wikipedia recently (this autumn) did. It provides some positive feedback /spirit. I'd surely use it often to thank e.g. CommandeC for this creative approach of stochastical implementations. -- 18:54, 17 December 2013 (CET)
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		+	Okay, these guys aren't quite obsolete yet, considering I just ran into one. It's probably a shapeshifter, considering it's part of a Xom vault, but that means it's still possible to encounter and fight formicids. [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt\|talk]]) 23:31, 28 April 2014 (CEST)

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	::Good to know. I definitely agree the stochastically determined values make more sense, I was just curious as to what was happening. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 00:40, 17 December 2013 (CET)		::Good to know. I definitely agree the stochastically determined values make more sense, I was just curious as to what was happening. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 00:40, 17 December 2013 (CET)
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		+	:::Very instructive information! We should ask the overall maintainer to introduce the 'thank you' procedure, just like big wikipedia recently (this autumn) did. It provides some positive feedback /spirit. I'd surely use it often to thank e.g. CommandeC for this creative approach of stochastical implementations. -- 18:54, 17 December 2013 (CET)

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	:Those extreme cases can occur, but they are uncommon. The hp ranges reported by the knowledge bots (and my program which is just a fork of them) are the minimum and maximum hp values observed in a sample of 1000 monsters of the specified type. When I wrote the program which updates our pages, I decided to keep this algorithm, because the information it provides is more useful than showing the theoretical hp ranges. --[[User:CommanderC\|CommanderC]] ([[User talk:CommanderC\|talk]]) 17:54, 16 December 2013 (CET)		:Those extreme cases can occur, but they are uncommon. The hp ranges reported by the knowledge bots (and my program which is just a fork of them) are the minimum and maximum hp values observed in a sample of 1000 monsters of the specified type. When I wrote the program which updates our pages, I decided to keep this algorithm, because the information it provides is more useful than showing the theoretical hp ranges. --[[User:CommanderC\|CommanderC]] ([[User talk:CommanderC\|talk]]) 17:54, 16 December 2013 (CET)
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		+	::Good to know. I definitely agree the stochastically determined values make more sense, I was just curious as to what was happening. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 00:40, 17 December 2013 (CET)

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	Just a question: I've noticed that the knowledge bots and similar sources seem to "clip" HP ranges: for instance, formicid drones have 4 "base" HP and 6 "extra" HP per HD. With 4HD, this gave 16-40 HP, as one would expect, but with 6HD, it gives 26-58, instead of the expected 24-60. Is it just clipping the extreme improbability (total chance is something like 1/3500 for 25, 26, 59, or 60 HP), or is there actually something subtle in the code that prevents the extreme values from occurring? -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 15:59, 16 December 2013 (CET)		Just a question: I've noticed that the knowledge bots and similar sources seem to "clip" HP ranges: for instance, formicid drones have 4 "base" HP and 6 "extra" HP per HD. With 4HD, this gave 16-40 HP, as one would expect, but with 6HD, it gives 26-58, instead of the expected 24-60. Is it just clipping the extreme improbability (total chance is something like 1/3500 for 25, 26, 59, or 60 HP), or is there actually something subtle in the code that prevents the extreme values from occurring? -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 15:59, 16 December 2013 (CET)
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		+	:Those extreme cases can occur, but they are uncommon. The hp ranges reported by the knowledge bots (and my program which is just a fork of them) are the minimum and maximum hp values observed in a sample of 1000 monsters of the specified type. When I wrote the program which updates our pages, I decided to keep this algorithm, because the information it provides is more useful than showing the theoretical hp ranges. --[[User:CommanderC\|CommanderC]] ([[User talk:CommanderC\|talk]]) 17:54, 16 December 2013 (CET)