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		<title>Edsrzf: Edsrzf moved page Talk:Reflection (ego) to Talk:Reflection: Not sure why it was disambiguated</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Edsrzf moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/Talk:Reflection_(ego)&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Reflection (ego)&quot;&gt;Talk:Reflection (ego)&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/Talk:Reflection&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Reflection&quot;&gt;Talk:Reflection&lt;/a&gt;: Not sure why it was disambiguated&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Edsrzf</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>BlueCrake: TSO doesn`t care bout reflected poison darts.</title>
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				<updated>2014-07-06T09:32:08Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TSO doesn`t care bout reflected poison darts.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The penance issue has traditionally only come into play with TSO, and only under specific circumstances; reflecting poison attacks at demons has never bothered him. This sounds like a very similar case though. Perhaps TSO's issue has been fixed? Or perhaps Dithmenos is coded differently? It sounds like something we'd need a code diver to really figure out, but it seems as though it's an arbitrary and asymmetrical situation. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan|talk]]) 04:58, 6 July 2014 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:The penance issue has traditionally only come into play with TSO, and only under specific circumstances; reflecting poison attacks at demons has never bothered him. This sounds like a very similar case though. Perhaps TSO's issue has been fixed? Or perhaps Dithmenos is coded differently? It sounds like something we'd need a code diver to really figure out, but it seems as though it's an arbitrary and asymmetrical situation. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan|talk]]) 04:58, 6 July 2014 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::(I`ve now reflected many fire based attacks with my Donald-shield, and dithmenos never mady me feel guilty or anything.) I also took the time and wizmoded a bit: Created a big kobold and gave him poisoned darts, which I then reflected at him, while having TSO as god. No piety change or status message, in several reflected poison shots. I`d say the info is outdated and reflection has been changed. --[[User:BlueCrake|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake|talk]]) 11:32, 6 July 2014 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>BlueCrake</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>MoogleDan at 02:58, 6 July 2014</title>
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				<updated>2014-07-06T02:58:17Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Just reflected a crossbow bolt of fire while being a Dithmenos worshipper. Usualle there is penance for that? My god just accepted the kill. Is the bit about treating it as your attacks in the eyes of the gods still true or is it only Dithmenos turning a blind eye? (Bolt were unbranded, Crossbow was of Flame) --[[User:BlueCrake|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake|talk]]) 01:13, 5 July 2014 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Just reflected a crossbow bolt of fire while being a Dithmenos worshipper. Usualle there is penance for that? My god just accepted the kill. Is the bit about treating it as your attacks in the eyes of the gods still true or is it only Dithmenos turning a blind eye? (Bolt were unbranded, Crossbow was of Flame) --[[User:BlueCrake|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake|talk]]) 01:13, 5 July 2014 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:The penance issue has traditionally only come into play with TSO, and only under specific circumstances; reflecting poison attacks at demons has never bothered him. This sounds like a very similar case though. Perhaps TSO's issue has been fixed? Or perhaps Dithmenos is coded differently? It sounds like something we'd need a code diver to really figure out, but it seems as though it's an arbitrary and asymmetrical situation. --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan|talk]]) 04:58, 6 July 2014 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>MoogleDan</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reflection&amp;diff=29628&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>BlueCrake: /* Penance */ new section</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Penance: &lt;/span&gt; new section&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::The accuracy is reduced *after* the player SH has been tested. --[[User:CommanderC|CommanderC]] 00:45, 17 May 2013 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::The accuracy is reduced *after* the player SH has been tested. --[[User:CommanderC|CommanderC]] 00:45, 17 May 2013 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Penance ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Just reflected a crossbow bolt of fire while being a Dithmenos worshipper. Usualle there is penance for that? My god just accepted the kill. Is the bit about treating it as your attacks in the eyes of the gods still true or is it only Dithmenos turning a blind eye? (Bolt were unbranded, Crossbow was of Flame) --[[User:BlueCrake|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake|talk]]) 01:13, 5 July 2014 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>CommanderC at 22:45, 16 May 2013</title>
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				<updated>2013-05-16T22:45:14Z</updated>
		
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I haven't tried it in Wizard mode, but I've seen it poison attacks strike both demonic and natural opponents while worshiping TSO without any penance. If you can trigger it, however, feel free to change it back. As for the Deflect Missile bit, that would be my mistake. I thought Deflect Missile reduced enemy accuracy instead of boosting player EV. Reducing their to-hit would make things easier to block, no? --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 22:31, 16 May 2013 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I haven't tried it in Wizard mode, but I've seen it poison attacks strike both demonic and natural opponents while worshiping TSO without any penance. If you can trigger it, however, feel free to change it back. As for the Deflect Missile bit, that would be my mistake. I thought Deflect Missile reduced enemy accuracy instead of boosting player EV. Reducing their to-hit would make things easier to block, no? --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 22:31, 16 May 2013 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::The accuracy is reduced *after* the player SH has been tested. --[[User:CommanderC|CommanderC]] 00:45, 17 May 2013 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>CommanderC</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reflection&amp;diff=13783&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>MoogleDan: Questions for CommanderC</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Questions for CommanderC&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;MoogleDan, have you tried it in wizard mode against, for example, a Naga mage? I'm pretty sure this stuff has not changed. Also, you should know that DMsl and RMsl do not improve your blocking ability (SH), only your dodging ability (EV). DMsl/Rmsl are useless for characters with very low EV. --[[User:CommanderC|CommanderC]] 19:19, 16 May 2013 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;MoogleDan, have you tried it in wizard mode against, for example, a Naga mage? I'm pretty sure this stuff has not changed. Also, you should know that DMsl and RMsl do not improve your blocking ability (SH), only your dodging ability (EV). DMsl/Rmsl are useless for characters with very low EV. --[[User:CommanderC|CommanderC]] 19:19, 16 May 2013 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:I haven't tried it in Wizard mode, but I've seen it poison attacks strike both demonic and natural opponents while worshiping TSO without any penance. If you can trigger it, however, feel free to change it back. As for the Deflect Missile bit, that would be my mistake. I thought Deflect Missile reduced enemy accuracy instead of boosting player EV. Reducing their to-hit would make things easier to block, no? --[[User:MoogleDan|MoogleDan]] 22:31, 16 May 2013 (CEST)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>MoogleDan</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>CommanderC: Created page with &quot;MoogleDan, have you tried it in wizard mode against, for example, a Naga mage? I'm pretty sure this stuff has not changed. Also, you should know that DMsl and RMsl do not improve...&quot;</title>
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				<updated>2013-05-16T17:19:10Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;MoogleDan, have you tried it in wizard mode against, for example, a Naga mage? I&amp;#039;m pretty sure this stuff has not changed. Also, you should know that DMsl and RMsl do not improve...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;MoogleDan, have you tried it in wizard mode against, for example, a Naga mage? I'm pretty sure this stuff has not changed. Also, you should know that DMsl and RMsl do not improve your blocking ability (SH), only your dodging ability (EV). DMsl/Rmsl are useless for characters with very low EV. --[[User:CommanderC|CommanderC]] 19:19, 16 May 2013 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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