Talk:Vehumet - Revision history

Spudwalt: /* Vehumet Gifts */

2014-05-31T18:09:58Z

‎Vehumet Gifts

BlueCrake: What is a Storm spell exactly?

2014-05-30T16:50:02Z

What is a Storm spell exactly?

Spudwalt: /* Vehumet Gifts */

2014-05-30T16:29:20Z

‎Vehumet Gifts

BlueCrake: more questions

2014-05-30T15:06:03Z

MoogleDan: /* Vehumet Gifts */

2014-05-30T14:18:17Z

‎Vehumet Gifts

BlueCrake: Question about spell offers

2014-05-30T12:27:39Z

Question about spell offers

MoogleDan at 12:48, 25 July 2013

2013-07-25T12:48:16Z

Bwijn: Vehumet supported spells +1 ?

2013-07-24T21:57:54Z

Vehumet supported spells +1 ?

Bwijn: clear now, thanks!

2013-02-01T16:56:25Z

clear now, thanks!

CommanderC at 14:29, 1 February 2013

2013-02-01T14:29:41Z

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	:::I'll avoid learning a Vehumet gift right off if I don't plan to use it (like Iskenderun's Mystic Blast if I've already got Throw Icicle or whatever) or if I don't have the spell levels for it. [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt\|talk]]) 18:29, 30 May 2014 (CEST)		:::I'll avoid learning a Vehumet gift right off if I don't plan to use it (like Iskenderun's Mystic Blast if I've already got Throw Icicle or whatever) or if I don't have the spell levels for it. [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt\|talk]]) 18:29, 30 May 2014 (CEST)
	::Thanks, so the Storm spells are Fire Storm, Glaciate and Tornado? So Shatter is not guaranteed? --[[User:BlueCrake\|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake\|talk]]) 18:50, 30 May 2014 (CEST)		::Thanks, so the Storm spells are Fire Storm, Glaciate and Tornado? So Shatter is not guaranteed? --[[User:BlueCrake\|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake\|talk]]) 18:50, 30 May 2014 (CEST)
		+	:::Actually, Vehumet doesn't even guarantee Tornado, IIRC. From what I can remember of my last run with Vehumet, I only got Fire and Ice Storms as the final gift. [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt\|talk]]) 20:09, 31 May 2014 (CEST)

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	:::You're guaranteed to get the storm spells as your last gift (which makes sense, since they're stupidly hard to use), so you can feel free to learn whatever spells seem useful until he gives them to you. Granted, spreading out your elemental skills means it'll take that much longer to get a storm spell castable, but that's a different problem.		:::You're guaranteed to get the storm spells as your last gift (which makes sense, since they're stupidly hard to use), so you can feel free to learn whatever spells seem useful until he gives them to you. Granted, spreading out your elemental skills means it'll take that much longer to get a storm spell castable, but that's a different problem.
	:::I'll avoid learning a Vehumet gift right off if I don't plan to use it (like Iskenderun's Mystic Blast if I've already got Throw Icicle or whatever) or if I don't have the spell levels for it. [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt\|talk]]) 18:29, 30 May 2014 (CEST)		:::I'll avoid learning a Vehumet gift right off if I don't plan to use it (like Iskenderun's Mystic Blast if I've already got Throw Icicle or whatever) or if I don't have the spell levels for it. [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt\|talk]]) 18:29, 30 May 2014 (CEST)
		+	::Thanks, so the Storm spells are Fire Storm, Glaciate and Tornado? So Shatter is not guaranteed? --[[User:BlueCrake\|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake\|talk]]) 18:50, 30 May 2014 (CEST)

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	:It definitely tracks his gifts by the offers he makes, not the offers you accept; if you never accept anything of his, he'll still eventually hit the Storm spells and never offer anything past that. Timeout is also based on the offering, not the accepting. --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan\|talk]]) 16:18, 30 May 2014 (CEST)		:It definitely tracks his gifts by the offers he makes, not the offers you accept; if you never accept anything of his, he'll still eventually hit the Storm spells and never offer anything past that. Timeout is also based on the offering, not the accepting. --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan\|talk]]) 16:18, 30 May 2014 (CEST)
	::Ah, ok thank you. As far as i can see im nowhere guaranteed to get any storm spells from vehumet; so my best chance to get the one I want is to focus on one elemental school from the early game (f.e. fire) on and only spread my elemental skills when i have gotten all the gifts. correct? Also apart from spell levels there is no reason to not learn any spell he offers asap?		::Ah, ok thank you. As far as i can see im nowhere guaranteed to get any storm spells from vehumet; so my best chance to get the one I want is to focus on one elemental school from the early game (f.e. fire) on and only spread my elemental skills when i have gotten all the gifts. correct? Also apart from spell levels there is no reason to not learn any spell he offers asap?
		+	:::You're guaranteed to get the storm spells as your last gift (which makes sense, since they're stupidly hard to use), so you can feel free to learn whatever spells seem useful until he gives them to you. Granted, spreading out your elemental skills means it'll take that much longer to get a storm spell castable, but that's a different problem.
		+	:::I'll avoid learning a Vehumet gift right off if I don't plan to use it (like Iskenderun's Mystic Blast if I've already got Throw Icicle or whatever) or if I don't have the spell levels for it. [[User:Spudwalt\|--spudwalt]] ([[User talk:Spudwalt\|talk]]) 18:29, 30 May 2014 (CEST)

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	--[[User:BlueCrake\|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake\|talk]]) 14:27, 30 May 2014 (CEST)		--[[User:BlueCrake\|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake\|talk]]) 14:27, 30 May 2014 (CEST)
	:It definitely tracks his gifts by the offers he makes, not the offers you accept; if you never accept anything of his, he'll still eventually hit the Storm spells and never offer anything past that. Timeout is also based on the offering, not the accepting. --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan\|talk]]) 16:18, 30 May 2014 (CEST)		:It definitely tracks his gifts by the offers he makes, not the offers you accept; if you never accept anything of his, he'll still eventually hit the Storm spells and never offer anything past that. Timeout is also based on the offering, not the accepting. --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan\|talk]]) 16:18, 30 May 2014 (CEST)
		+	::Ah, ok thank you. As far as i can see im nowhere guaranteed to get any storm spells from vehumet; so my best chance to get the one I want is to focus on one elemental school from the early game (f.e. fire) on and only spread my elemental skills when i have gotten all the gifts. correct? Also apart from spell levels there is no reason to not learn any spell he offers asap?

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	Also when will gift timeout start? When I get a new spell offer or when I learn it?		Also when will gift timeout start? When I get a new spell offer or when I learn it?
	--[[User:BlueCrake\|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake\|talk]]) 14:27, 30 May 2014 (CEST)		--[[User:BlueCrake\|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake\|talk]]) 14:27, 30 May 2014 (CEST)
		+	:It definitely tracks his gifts by the offers he makes, not the offers you accept; if you never accept anything of his, he'll still eventually hit the Storm spells and never offer anything past that. Timeout is also based on the offering, not the accepting. --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] ([[User talk:MoogleDan\|talk]]) 16:18, 30 May 2014 (CEST)

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	In 0.13a/trunk I've been offered [[Sandblast]] by Vehumet as second gift. So Sandblast should be added to the list of Vehumet supported spells. Any objections b/c maybe in [[0.12]] it wasn't yet? -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 23:57, 24 July 2013 (CEST)		In 0.13a/trunk I've been offered [[Sandblast]] by Vehumet as second gift. So Sandblast should be added to the list of Vehumet supported spells. Any objections b/c maybe in [[0.12]] it wasn't yet? -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 23:57, 24 July 2013 (CEST)
	:It's already in there at the bottom of the Given Abilities section! --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] 14:48, 25 July 2013 (CEST)		:It's already in there at the bottom of the Given Abilities section! --[[User:MoogleDan\|MoogleDan]] 14:48, 25 July 2013 (CEST)
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		+	==Vehumet Gifts==
		+	The page says Vehumet will gift me a max of 15 spells. How is that meant? Will he "offer" me up to 15 spells or will he keep offering me spells till i have acepted 15 spells?
		+	Also when will gift timeout start? When I get a new spell offer or when I learn it?
		+	--[[User:BlueCrake\|BlueCrake]] ([[User talk:BlueCrake\|talk]]) 14:27, 30 May 2014 (CEST)

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 == Piety losses ==
 My SpSt of Vehumet has been repeatedly falling back in piety from ****** to *****, I'm wondering why? In the wiki article is no hint at all which decisions are triggering that. It's surely not caused by inactivity (every 320 turns 1 point of piety) loss, no I'm pretty much stabbing and shooting and spell firing! Anybody out there who has qualified (by experience, not by cynism) hints which character doings consume Vehumet piety? Isn't there anything that should be added to the article? -- [[User:Bwijn|Bwijn]] 14:37, 1 February 2013 (CET)
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 == Vehumet supported spells ==
 In 0.13a/trunk I've been offered [[Sandblast]] by Vehumet as second gift. So Sandblast should be added to the list of Vehumet supported spells. Any objections b/c maybe in [[0.12]] it wasn't yet? -- [[User:Bwijn|Bwijn]] 23:57, 24 July 2013 (CEST)

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		+	== Piety losses ==
	My SpSt of Vehumet has been repeatedly falling back in piety from **** to ***, I'm wondering why? In the wiki article is no hint at all which decisions are triggering that. It's surely not caused by inactivity (every 320 turns 1 point of piety) loss, no I'm pretty much stabbing and shooting and spell firing! Anybody out there who has qualified (by experience, not by cynism) hints which character doings consume Vehumet piety? Isn't there anything that should be added to the article? -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 14:37, 1 February 2013 (CET)		My SpSt of Vehumet has been repeatedly falling back in piety from **** to ***, I'm wondering why? In the wiki article is no hint at all which decisions are triggering that. It's surely not caused by inactivity (every 320 turns 1 point of piety) loss, no I'm pretty much stabbing and shooting and spell firing! Anybody out there who has qualified (by experience, not by cynism) hints which character doings consume Vehumet piety? Isn't there anything that should be added to the article? -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 14:37, 1 February 2013 (CET)

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	::That [[Gift Timeout]] is indeed an explanation. The mechanism is clear now. Thank you! - The wording "timeout" is somewhat leading astray, it's more a "gift workout" or "gift repayment". -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 17:56, 1 February 2013 (CET)		::That [[Gift Timeout]] is indeed an explanation. The mechanism is clear now. Thank you! - The wording "timeout" is somewhat leading astray, it's more a "gift workout" or "gift repayment". -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 17:56, 1 February 2013 (CET)
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		+	== Vehumet supported spells ==
		+	In 0.13a/trunk I've been offered [[Sandblast]] by Vehumet as second gift. So Sandblast should be added to the list of Vehumet supported spells. Any objections b/c maybe in [[0.12]] it wasn't yet? -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 23:57, 24 July 2013 (CEST)

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	:When your piety is above the gifting threshold (and your gift timeout is greater than 0), 3 of every 4 points of piety you gain are dedicated to decrease the gift timeout. Those points are not added to your piety pool. (Gifts cost piety) --[[User:CommanderC\|CommanderC]] 15:28, 1 February 2013 (CET)		:When your piety is above the gifting threshold (and your gift timeout is greater than 0), 3 of every 4 points of piety you gain are dedicated to decrease the gift timeout. Those points are not added to your piety pool. (Gifts cost piety) --[[User:CommanderC\|CommanderC]] 15:28, 1 February 2013 (CET)
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		+	::That [[Gift Timeout]] is indeed an explanation. The mechanism is clear now. Thank you! - The wording "timeout" is somewhat leading astray, it's more a "gift workout" or "gift repayment". -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 17:56, 1 February 2013 (CET)

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	My SpSt of Vehumet has been repeatedly falling back in piety from **** to ***, I'm wondering why? In the wiki article is no hint at all which decisions are triggering that. It's surely not caused by inactivity (every 320 turns 1 point of piety) loss, no I'm pretty much stabbing and shooting and spell firing! Anybody out there who has qualified (by experience, not by cynism) hints which character doings consume Vehumet piety? Isn't there anything that should be added to the article? -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 14:37, 1 February 2013 (CET)		My SpSt of Vehumet has been repeatedly falling back in piety from **** to ***, I'm wondering why? In the wiki article is no hint at all which decisions are triggering that. It's surely not caused by inactivity (every 320 turns 1 point of piety) loss, no I'm pretty much stabbing and shooting and spell firing! Anybody out there who has qualified (by experience, not by cynism) hints which character doings consume Vehumet piety? Isn't there anything that should be added to the article? -- [[User:Bwijn\|Bwijn]] 14:37, 1 February 2013 (CET)

−	:When your piety is above the gifting threshold (and ~~you~~ gift timeout is greater than 0), 3 of every 4 points of piety you gain are dedicated to decrease the gift timeout. Those points are not added to your piety pool. (Gifts cost piety) --[[User:CommanderC\|CommanderC]] 15:28, 1 February 2013 (CET)	+	:When your piety is above the gifting threshold (and your gift timeout is greater than 0), 3 of every 4 points of piety you gain are dedicated to decrease the gift timeout. Those points are not added to your piety pool. (Gifts cost piety) --[[User:CommanderC\|CommanderC]] 15:28, 1 February 2013 (CET)