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		<id>http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=Talk:Wizardry&amp;diff=76392&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Hordes at 05:21, 27 November 2023</title>
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				<updated>2023-11-27T05:21:55Z</updated>
		
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 05:21, 27 November 2023&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l4&quot; &gt;Line 4:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I'm pretty sure the formula was &amp;quot;essentially&amp;quot; correct for the versions it pertained to. That is, wiz x 1 = x0.75 RFR, wiz x 2 = x0.66... RFR, and wiz x 3 = x0.50 RFR. Since the cap was x0.50, vehumet was always 2 sources of wizardry. (Of course, the trunk change would make Vehumet's part incorrect.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I'm pretty sure the formula was &amp;quot;essentially&amp;quot; correct for the versions it pertained to. That is, wiz x 1 = x0.75 RFR, wiz x 2 = x0.66... RFR, and wiz x 3 = x0.50 RFR. Since the cap was x0.50, vehumet was always 2 sources of wizardry. (Of course, the trunk change would make Vehumet's part incorrect.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;EDIT - nevermind i &lt;/del&gt;can't do math, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;thats &lt;/del&gt;what i get for being a wiki editor haha [[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 05:46, 27 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;EDIT&lt;/ins&gt;: &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Nevermind, I &lt;/ins&gt;can't do math, &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;that's &lt;/ins&gt;what i get for being a wiki editor haha&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. (For future readers, wiz x3 = 0.6 and not 0.5) &lt;/ins&gt;[[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 05:46, 27 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Hordes at 04:48, 27 November 2023</title>
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				<updated>2023-11-27T04:48:51Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot; &gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I've found the correct formula and added it. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:54, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I've found the correct formula and added it. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:54, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I'm pretty sure the formula was &amp;quot;essentially&amp;quot; correct for the versions it pertained to. That is, wiz x 1 = x0.75 RFR, wiz x 2 = x0.66... RFR, and wiz x 3 = x0.50 RFR. Since the cap was x0.50, vehumet was always 2 sources of wizardry. (Of course, the trunk change would make Vehumet's part incorrect.) [[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 05:46, 27 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I'm pretty sure the formula was &amp;quot;essentially&amp;quot; correct for the versions it pertained to. That is, wiz x 1 = x0.75 RFR, wiz x 2 = x0.66... RFR, and wiz x 3 = x0.50 RFR. Since the cap was x0.50, vehumet was always 2 sources of wizardry. (Of course, the trunk change would make Vehumet's part incorrect.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;:::EDIT - nevermind i can't do math, thats what i get for being a wiki editor haha &lt;/ins&gt;[[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 05:46, 27 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Hordes at 04:47, 27 November 2023</title>
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				<updated>2023-11-27T04:47:21Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 04:47, 27 November 2023&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot; &gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I've found the correct formula and added it. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:54, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I've found the correct formula and added it. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:54, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I'm pretty sure the formula was &amp;quot;essentially&amp;quot; correct for the versions it pertained to. That is, wiz x 1 = x0.75, wiz x 2 = x0.66..., and wiz x 3 = x0.50. Since the cap was x0.50, vehumet was always 2 sources of wizardry. (Of course, the trunk change would make Vehumet's part incorrect.) [[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 05:46, 27 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::I'm pretty sure the formula was &amp;quot;essentially&amp;quot; correct for the versions it pertained to. That is, wiz x 1 = x0.75 &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;RFR&lt;/ins&gt;, wiz x 2 = x0.66... &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;RFR&lt;/ins&gt;, and wiz x 3 = x0.50 &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;RFR&lt;/ins&gt;. Since the cap was x0.50, vehumet was always 2 sources of wizardry. (Of course, the trunk change would make Vehumet's part incorrect.) [[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 05:46, 27 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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	<entry>
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		<title>Hordes at 04:46, 27 November 2023</title>
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				<updated>2023-11-27T04:46:52Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A removal of the wizardry cap was added to trunk today, and this was followed by a discussion on Discord where the wiki was discovered to be wrong on the effectiveness of rings of wizardry. I wasn't able to confirm the correct formula, so I'll just add the CBA for now and make a note in the edit summary in addition to here. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:13, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A removal of the wizardry cap was added to trunk today, and this was followed by a discussion on Discord where the wiki was discovered to be wrong on the effectiveness of rings of wizardry. I wasn't able to confirm the correct formula, so I'll just add the CBA for now and make a note in the edit summary in addition to here. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:13, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I've found the correct formula and added it. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:54, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I've found the correct formula and added it. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:54, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::I'm pretty sure the formula was &amp;quot;essentially&amp;quot; correct for the versions it pertained to. That is, wiz x 1 = x0.75, wiz x 2 = x0.66..., and wiz x 3 = x0.50. Since the cap was x0.50, vehumet was always 2 sources of wizardry. (Of course, the trunk change would make Vehumet's part incorrect.) [[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 05:46, 27 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Hordes</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
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		<title>Patrick2011b: found the formula</title>
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				<updated>2023-11-26T22:54:45Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;found the formula&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:54, 26 November 2023&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A removal of the wizardry cap was added to trunk today, and this was followed by a discussion on Discord where the wiki was discovered to be wrong on the effectiveness of rings of wizardry. I wasn't able to confirm the correct formula, so I'll just add the CBA for now and make a note in the edit summary in addition to here. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:13, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;A removal of the wizardry cap was added to trunk today, and this was followed by a discussion on Discord where the wiki was discovered to be wrong on the effectiveness of rings of wizardry. I wasn't able to confirm the correct formula, so I'll just add the CBA for now and make a note in the edit summary in addition to here. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:13, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:I've found the correct formula and added it. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:54, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Patrick2011b: Discord says the wiki is wrong on what wizardry does</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Discord says the wiki is wrong on what wizardry does&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;A removal of the wizardry cap was added to trunk today, and this was followed by a discussion on Discord where the wiki was discovered to be wrong on the effectiveness of rings of wizardry. I wasn't able to confirm the correct formula, so I'll just add the CBA for now and make a note in the edit summary in addition to here. [[User:Patrick2011b|Patrick2011b]] ([[User talk:Patrick2011b|talk]]) 23:13, 26 November 2023 (CET)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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