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‎"Bad" Effects: new section

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Sinchyon at 07:09, 11 June 2023

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Aargxl at 23:45, 19 July 2019

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Lokkij: Created page with "Wait... what's the difference between interest and amusement? --~~~~"

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Created page with "Wait... what's the difference between interest and amusement? --~~~~"

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Wait... what's the difference between interest and amusement? --[[User:Lokkij|Lokkij]] 18:00, 13 May 2013 (CEST)

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	:: Thanks for clarification + edits to main page! [[User:sinchyon\|sinchyon]] ([[User talk:sinchyon\|talk]]) 15:13, 11 June 2023 (CEST)		:: Thanks for clarification + edits to main page! [[User:sinchyon\|sinchyon]] ([[User talk:sinchyon\|talk]]) 15:13, 11 June 2023 (CEST)
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		+	== "Bad" Effects ==
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		+	I can't find a source for Xom poisoning the player or opening Malign Gateways near them in xom.cc or xom.h. If someone could find one that would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Sinchyon\|Sinchyon]] ([[User talk:Sinchyon\|talk]]) 22:12, 11 June 2023 (CEST)

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	: I also believe you are correct about the weapons. Since Xom gives you a random weapon, it has a 6/7ish chance of not being something you trained for. [[User:Hordes\|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes\|talk]]) 12:23, 11 June 2023 (CEST)		: I also believe you are correct about the weapons. Since Xom gives you a random weapon, it has a 6/7ish chance of not being something you trained for. [[User:Hordes\|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes\|talk]]) 12:23, 11 June 2023 (CEST)
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		+	:: Thanks for clarification + edits to main page! [[User:sinchyon\|sinchyon]] ([[User talk:sinchyon\|talk]]) 15:13, 11 June 2023 (CEST)

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 Not sure if this code [https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/56bf3466789caa7fd4c5900f9da68a0f869b82fd/crawl-ref/source/xom.cc#L971] means Xom can't confuse monsters who are holy AND nonliving or plants, or Xom cannot confuse monsters who are holy or nonliving or plants. Also i cannot find a source for this within the code "if you are training one specific type of weapon, Xom will probably give you a different kind." There is nothing in the code to account for what you are training afaik; he just gives you a random weapon and it probably won't be what you're training given the nature of probability??? -- [[User:sinchyon|sinchyon]] 01:12, 11 June 2023 (CEST)
-: "[[Holiness]]" is the monster's state of being. So "natural" "demonic" and "holy" are each considered a holiness, as is "plant" and "nonliving". Therefore, the code means that Xom can't confuses plants or non-living beings, I'd assume.
+: "[[Holiness]]" is the monster's state of being. So "natural" "demonic" and "holy" are each considered a holiness, as is "plant" and "nonliving". Therefore, the code means that Xom can't confuse plants or non-living beings.
-: I also assume the "if you are training one specific weapon, Xom gives you another" means, since you have a 6/7 chance of ''not'' getting the weapon you trained, Xom ''is'' likely to not give you something actually helpful. It is a true statement. [[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 12:23, 11 June 2023 (CEST)
+: I also believe you are correct about the weapons. Since Xom gives you a random weapon, it has a 6/7ish chance of not being something you trained for. [[User:Hordes|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes|talk]]) 12:23, 11 June 2023 (CEST)

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	: "[[Holiness]]" is the monster's state of being. So "natural" "demonic" and "holy" are each considered a holiness, as is "plant" and "nonliving". Therefore, the code means that Xom can't confuses plants or non-living beings, I'd assume.		: "[[Holiness]]" is the monster's state of being. So "natural" "demonic" and "holy" are each considered a holiness, as is "plant" and "nonliving". Therefore, the code means that Xom can't confuses plants or non-living beings, I'd assume.

−	: I assume the "if you are training one specific weapon, Xom gives you another" means, since you have a 6/7 chance of ''not'' getting the weapon you trained, Xom ''is'' likely to not give you something actually helpful. It is a true statement [[User:Hordes\|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes\|talk]]) 12:23, 11 June 2023 (CEST)	+	: I also assume the "if you are training one specific weapon, Xom gives you another" means, since you have a 6/7 chance of ''not'' getting the weapon you trained, Xom ''is'' likely to not give you something actually helpful. It is a true statement. [[User:Hordes\|Hordes]] ([[User talk:Hordes\|talk]]) 12:23, 11 June 2023 (CEST)

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 Apparently the latter is a basic description of the mechanic (I assume it's called amusement), while the first explains how we can get/lose interest, thus also changing Xom's amusement. Granted, there is some double-mentioning, but I feel too much of a noob to merge those articles just by my hearsay.
 Secondly, in the interest-part there are tomes mentioned - I guess it's meaning this old stuff which was there for some versions but can now be found only as obsolete articles? If so, we can remove them from the list (seems vaguely outdated anyway)--[[User:Aargxl|Aargxl]] ([[User talk:Aargxl|talk]]) 01:45, 20 July 2019 (CEST)
 Not sure if this code [https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/56bf3466789caa7fd4c5900f9da68a0f869b82fd/crawl-ref/source/xom.cc#L971] means Xom can't confuse monsters who are holy AND nonliving or plants, or Xom cannot confuse monsters who are holy or nonliving or plants. Also i cannot find a source for this within the code "if you are training one specific type of weapon, Xom will probably give you a different kind." There is nothing in the code to account for what you are training afaik; he just gives you a random weapon and it probably won't be what you're training given the nature of probability??? -- [[User:sinchyon|sinchyon]] 01:12, 11 June 2023 (CEST)

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	Secondly, in the interest-part there are tomes mentioned - I guess it's meaning this old stuff which was there for some versions but can now be found only as obsolete articles? If so, we can remove them from the list (seems vaguely outdated anyway)--[[User:Aargxl\|Aargxl]] ([[User talk:Aargxl\|talk]]) 01:45, 20 July 2019 (CEST)		Secondly, in the interest-part there are tomes mentioned - I guess it's meaning this old stuff which was there for some versions but can now be found only as obsolete articles? If so, we can remove them from the list (seems vaguely outdated anyway)--[[User:Aargxl\|Aargxl]] ([[User talk:Aargxl\|talk]]) 01:45, 20 July 2019 (CEST)

−	Not sure if this code [https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/56bf3466789caa7fd4c5900f9da68a0f869b82fd/crawl-ref/source/xom.cc#L971] means Xom can't confuse monsters who are holy AND nonliving or plants, or Xom cannot confuse monsters who are holy or nonliving or plants. -- [[User:sinchyon\|sinchyon]] 01:12, 11 June 2023 (CEST)	+	Not sure if this code [https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/56bf3466789caa7fd4c5900f9da68a0f869b82fd/crawl-ref/source/xom.cc#L971] means Xom can't confuse monsters who are holy AND nonliving or plants, or Xom cannot confuse monsters who are holy or nonliving or plants. Also i cannot find a source for this within the code "if you are training one specific type of weapon, Xom will probably give you a different kind." There is nothing in the code to account for what you are training afaik; he just gives you a random weapon and it probably won't be what you're training given the nature of probability??? -- [[User:sinchyon\|sinchyon]] 01:12, 11 June 2023 (CEST)

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	Apparently the latter is a basic description of the mechanic (I assume it's called amusement), while the first explains how we can get/lose interest, thus also changing Xom's amusement. Granted, there is some double-mentioning, but I feel too much of a noob to merge those articles just by my hearsay.		Apparently the latter is a basic description of the mechanic (I assume it's called amusement), while the first explains how we can get/lose interest, thus also changing Xom's amusement. Granted, there is some double-mentioning, but I feel too much of a noob to merge those articles just by my hearsay.
	Secondly, in the interest-part there are tomes mentioned - I guess it's meaning this old stuff which was there for some versions but can now be found only as obsolete articles? If so, we can remove them from the list (seems vaguely outdated anyway)--[[User:Aargxl\|Aargxl]] ([[User talk:Aargxl\|talk]]) 01:45, 20 July 2019 (CEST)		Secondly, in the interest-part there are tomes mentioned - I guess it's meaning this old stuff which was there for some versions but can now be found only as obsolete articles? If so, we can remove them from the list (seems vaguely outdated anyway)--[[User:Aargxl\|Aargxl]] ([[User talk:Aargxl\|talk]]) 01:45, 20 July 2019 (CEST)
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		+	Not sure if this code [https://github.com/crawl/crawl/blob/56bf3466789caa7fd4c5900f9da68a0f869b82fd/crawl-ref/source/xom.cc#L971] means Xom can't confuse monsters who are holy AND nonliving or plants, or Xom cannot confuse monsters who are holy or nonliving or plants. -- [[User:sinchyon\|sinchyon]] 01:12, 11 June 2023 (CEST)

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	Wait... what's the difference between interest and amusement? --[[User:Lokkij\|Lokkij]] 18:00, 13 May 2013 (CEST)		Wait... what's the difference between interest and amusement? --[[User:Lokkij\|Lokkij]] 18:00, 13 May 2013 (CEST)
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		+	Apparently the latter is a basic description of the mechanic (I assume it's called amusement), while the first explains how we can get/lose interest, thus also changing Xom's amusement. Granted, there is some double-mentioning, but I feel too much of a noob to merge those articles just by my hearsay.
		+	Secondly, in the interest-part there are tomes mentioned - I guess it's meaning this old stuff which was there for some versions but can now be found only as obsolete articles? If so, we can remove them from the list (seems vaguely outdated anyway)--[[User:Aargxl\|Aargxl]] ([[User talk:Aargxl\|talk]]) 01:45, 20 July 2019 (CEST)