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Hordes at 19:24, 15 December 2025

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Patrick2011b: /* Innate Abilities */ +Shaggy Fur

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Hordes: explicitly mention "dodging penalty"

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explicitly mention "dodging penalty"

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Hordes: fix recommended Bgs

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 ''This page is about the player [[species]]. For the monster, see [[Troll (monster)]]. If you were looking for monstrous trolls in general, see [[List of trolls]].''
 {{flavour|Trolls are monstrous creatures with powerful claws. They have thick, knobbly skins of any colour from putrid green to mucky brown, which are covered in patches of thick fur.
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 {{Easy}}
-Troll is a simple species to play, although they can be more difficult. With great HP, fast regeneration, high strength, and powerful [[Claws]], Trolls are great at being [[Unarmed Combat]] bruisers, whether wearing heavy [[dragon scales]] or using [[talisman]] forms. With terrible aptitudes in most other skills, they aren't good at much else. As one of the two species big enough for [[large rock]]s, [[Throwing]] is a viable secondary skill.
+Troll is a simple species to play, although they can be difficult. With great HP, fast regeneration, high strength, and powerful [[Claws]], Trolls are great at being [[Unarmed Combat]] bruisers, whether wearing heavy [[dragon scales]] or using [[talisman]] forms. With terrible aptitudes in most other skills, they aren't good at much else. As one of the two species big enough for [[large rock]]s, [[Throwing]] is a viable secondary skill.
 Trolls are one of the strongest species in the early game due to the Claws, high HP, and regen. However, their mid games tend to be weak - despite the +30% HP, Trolls can be flimsy due to the lack of [[AC]] (unable to wear standard-size body armour) and [[EV]] (large size, poor aptitude). [[Shield]]s are recommended to mitigate this.
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 *Like with other species, [[Evocations]] can be a great resource. Trolls don't get any special bonus, but they don't get much of a penalty, either.
-Trolls should not use Unarmed Combat against [[hydra]]s - claws count as edged weapons, so they will cut and re-grow their heads. Viable options include large rocks, [[potion of lignification]] (which meld claws), [[Ice Form]], powerful attack [[wand]]s, or [[god]] abilities. Simply retreating can also work.
+Trolls should not use Unarmed Combat against [[hydra]]s - claws count as edged weapons, so they will cut and re-grow their heads. Viable options include large rocks, [[potion of lignification]] (which meld claws), certain other [[form]]s, powerful [[evocable]]s, or [[god]] abilities. Simply retreating can also work.
 Due to their large size, Trolls get a penalty to EV and the [[Dodging]] skill. Poor [[dexterity]] doesn't help. Nonetheless, it may be necessary to train Dodging to shore up your defenses.
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 *[[Elyvilon]] offers strong panic buttons and the ability to pacify most dangerous opponents with smite-targeting.
 *[[Jiyva]] can be a powerful and interesting god choice for Trolls, as for many other characters. Early altars are very rare, but if you see one, consider giving Jiyva a spin. However, if you cannot access Jiyva in the early dungeon, passing up on any god choices until late Lair will dramatically hurt your chances to win the game.
-*[[Ru]] can be a tempting choice for trolls. By sacrificing skills that you were unlikely to train anyway, you gain access to powerful and useful abilities while your aura of power makes enemies less threatening. Gather the hydras and death yaks together and reveal the annihilating truth to them! Lair has never been easier.
+*[[Ru]] can be a tempting choice for Trolls. By sacrificing skills that you were unlikely to train anyway, you gain access to powerful and useful abilities while your aura of power makes enemies less threatening. Gather the hydras and death yaks together and reveal the annihilating truth to them! Lair has never been easier.
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 {{Easy}}
-Troll is a simple, generally easy, species to play. With great HP, fast regeneration, high strength, and powerful [[Claws]], Trolls are great at being [[Unarmed Combat]] bruisers. With terrible aptitudes in most other skills, they aren't good at much else. As one of the two species big enough for [[large rock]]s, [[Throwing]] is a viable secondary skill.
+Troll is a simple species to play, although they can be more difficult. With great HP, fast regeneration, high strength, and powerful [[Claws]], Trolls are great at being [[Unarmed Combat]] bruisers, whether wearing heavy [[dragon scales]] or using [[talisman]] forms. With terrible aptitudes in most other skills, they aren't good at much else. As one of the two species big enough for [[large rock]]s, [[Throwing]] is a viable secondary skill.
-Trolls are one of the strongest species in the early game due to the Claws, high HP, and regen. However, their mid games tend to be weak - despite the +30% HP, Trolls can be flimsy due to the lack of [[AC]] (unable to wear most body armour) and [[EV]] (large size, poor aptitude). [[Shield]]s are recommended to mitigate this.
+Trolls are one of the strongest species in the early game due to the Claws, high HP, and regen. However, their mid games tend to be weak - despite the +30% HP, Trolls can be flimsy due to the lack of [[AC]] (unable to wear standard-size body armour) and [[EV]] (large size, poor aptitude). [[Shield]]s are recommended to mitigate this.
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 Troll is a simple, generally easy, species to play. With great HP, fast regeneration, high strength, and powerful [[Claws]], Trolls are great at being [[Unarmed Combat]] bruisers. With terrible aptitudes in most other skills, they aren't good at much else. As one of the two species big enough for [[large rock]]s, [[Throwing]] is a viable secondary skill.
-Trolls are one of the strongest species in the early game, due to the Claws and high HP. But, as the game progresses, their low [[AC]] (unable to wear most body armour) and [[EV]] (large size, poor aptitude) can become a big issue. So, despite having +30% HP, Trolls can feel flimsy by the mid game. [[Shield]]s are recommended to mitigate this.
+Trolls are one of the strongest species in the early game due to the Claws, high HP, and regen. However, their mid games tend to be weak - despite the +30% HP, Trolls can be flimsy due to the lack of [[AC]] (unable to wear most body armour) and [[EV]] (large size, poor aptitude). [[Shield]]s are recommended to mitigate this.
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 **They can attack and move normally in [[shallow water]].
 *'''[[Tough Skin]] 1:''' Trolls get +1 [[AC]].
 *'''[[Claws]] 3:''' Trolls have claws for hands, greatly improving their performance in [[unarmed combat]]. Claws deal +6 damage, though they can decapitate [[hydra]]s.
 *'''[[Regeneration (mutation)|Regeneration]] 1:''' Trolls heal very quickly (+0.8 HP/turn).

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 ==Innate Abilities==
 *Trolls are '''[[Size#Player Sizes|large]]''' species:
-**Like all large creatures, they receive an [[EV]] penalty.
+**Like all large creatures, they receive an [[EV]] and [[Dodging]] penalty.
 **Unlike regular sized species, they can use [[giant club]]s,  [[giant spiked club]]s, and [[large rock]]s.
 **Their bodies do not fit into [[boots]], [[gloves]], [[helmet]]s, or most [[body armour]] (they can only wear [[robe]]s, [[animal skin]]s, [[troll leather armour]], and [[dragon scales]]). In addition, [[buckler]]s are too small for them to use.

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 Troll is a simple, generally easy, species to play. Having great HP, fast regeneration, high strength, and powerful [[Claws]], Trolls are great at being [[Unarmed Combat]] bruisers. With terrible aptitudes in most other skills, they aren't good at much else. As one of the two species big enough for [[large rock]]s, [[Throwing]] is a viable secondary skill.
-In the early game, Troll is one of the strongest species due to having Claws and high HP. But as the game progresses, their low [[AC]] (unable to wear most body armour) and [[EV]] (large size, poor aptitude) can become a big issue. By the time you reach mid-game, Trolls can feel very frail, despite having +30% HP. [[Shield]]s are highly recommended to mitigate this.
+In the early game, Troll is one of the strongest species due to having Claws and high HP. But as the game progresses, their low [[AC]] (unable to wear most body armour) and [[EV]] (large size, poor aptitude) can become a big issue. So, despite having +30% HP, Trolls can feel flimsy by the mid game. [[Shield]]s are recommended to mitigate this.
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 ==Preferred Backgrounds==
-*'''Warriors:''' [[Fighter]], [[Monk]], [[Hunter]]
+*'''Warriors:''' [[Fighter]], [[Gladiator]]
 *'''Zealots:''' [[Berserker]]
 *'''Warrior-Mages:''' [[Warper]]
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 Troll is a simple, generally easy, species to play. Having great HP, fast regeneration, high strength, and powerful [[Claws]], Trolls are great at being [[Unarmed Combat]] bruisers. With terrible aptitudes in most other skills, they aren't good at much else. As one of the two species big enough for [[large rock]]s, [[Throwing]] is a viable secondary skill.
-In the early game, Troll is one of the strongest species due to having Claws and high HP. But, as the game progresses, their low [[AC]] (unable to wear most body armour) and low [[EV]] (large size, poor aptitude) become a bigger issue. Despite having +30% HP, a mid-game Troll can feel very frail. [[Shield]]s are highly recommended to mitigate this.
+In the early game, Troll is one of the strongest species due to having Claws and high HP. But as the game progresses, their low [[AC]] (unable to wear most body armour) and [[EV]] (large size, poor aptitude) can become a big issue. By the time you reach mid-game, Trolls can feel very frail, despite having +30% HP. [[Shield]]s are highly recommended to mitigate this.
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 *Like with other species, [[Evocations]] can be a great resource. Trolls don't get any special bonus, but they don't get much of a penalty, either.
-Trolls should not use Unarmed Combat against [[hydra]]s - claws count as edged weapons, so they will cut and re-grow their heads. Viable options include large rocks, [[potion of lignification]] (which meld claws), [[Ice Form]], powerful attack wands, or [[god]] abilities. Simply retreating can also work.
+Trolls should not use Unarmed Combat against [[hydra]]s - claws count as edged weapons, so they will cut and re-grow their heads. Viable options include large rocks, [[potion of lignification]] (which meld claws), [[Ice Form]], powerful attack [[wand]]s, or [[god]] abilities. Simply retreating can also work.
 Due to their large size, Trolls get a penalty to EV and the [[Dodging]] skill. Poor [[dexterity]] doesn't help. Nonetheless, it may be necessary to train Dodging to shore up your defenses.

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 ==Strategy==
 Beyond Unarmed Combat, Trolls have a couple of options:
-*Their [[Maces & Flails]] is at -1 aptitude, and Trolls are one of a few species that can wield [[giant club]]s.
+*Their [[Maces & Flails]] is at -1 aptitude, and Trolls are one of a few species that can wield [[giant club]]s. Unarmed is generally ''more practical'', since Claws are stronger early game, and it allows use of shield. But weapon use isn't out of the question, namely if you find an amazing [[artefact]].
 *[[Throwing]], as mentioned, is a great support skill. Even at 0 skill, large rocks can pack a punch (but are very slow to throw).
 *With poor [[intelligence]] and magical aptitudes, their casting isn't great. However, it doesn't mean it's impossible. Low-level support spells like [[Blink]], [[Swiftness]], and [[Mephitic Cloud]] can prove to be useful, especially if you're stuck in light armour.