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Patrick2011b: bump

2024-02-05T00:31:58Z

bump

Hordes at 22:18, 4 February 2024

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Hordes at 22:16, 4 February 2024

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Hordes: no need for the line break

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no need for the line break

Hordes: consistency

2023-09-04T21:22:49Z

consistency

Hordes: full stop

2023-09-04T21:21:33Z

full stop

Ge0ff at 19:57, 4 September 2023

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Hordes at 23:02, 2 September 2023

2023-09-02T23:02:59Z

Hordes at 23:00, 2 September 2023

2023-09-02T23:00:11Z

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2023-07-14T22:16:02Z

‎Strategy

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 ''This page is about the [[Brand|weapon brand]]. For the removed card, see [[Venom card]].''
 {{flavour|It poisons victims.}}
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 Poison works differently for players and monsters. Each attack from a venom weapon has a 75% chance to do the following, depending on target:
-* '''Players attacking monsters:''' The venom brand deals <code>1 + (4 + 1d8 + 1d<1.5 * dam>)/7</code> "[[Poison#Monster Formula|stacks]]" of poison, for dam = damage from the weapon itself.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|attack.cc|1297}}</ref><ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|monster.cc|3985}}</ref> For example, a 1 damage hit can inflict 1-2 stacks of poison. Monsters can be affected by a max. of 4 stacks at a time. For more detail on poison stacks, see the [[Poison#Monster Formula|Poison]] article.
+* '''Players attacking monsters:''' The venom brand deals <code>1 + (4 + 1d8 + 1d<1.5 * dam>)/7</code> "[[Poison#Monster Formula|stacks]]" of poison, for dam = damage from the weapon itself.<ref>{{source ref|0.31.0|attack.cc|1331}}</ref><ref>{{source ref|0.31.0|monster.cc|4005}}</ref> For example, a 1 damage hit can inflict 1-2 stacks of poison. Monsters can be affected by a max. of 4 stacks at a time. For more detail on poison stacks, see the [[Poison#Monster Formula|Poison]] article.
 * '''Monsters attacking players:''' Inflicts poison equal to <code>4 + 1d8 + 1d(1.5 * dam)</code> HP. There is no stack system - by the time the poison ends, you'll lose the listed amount of HP.

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 * '''Monsters attacking players:''' Inflicts poison equal to <code>4 + 1d8 + 1d(1.5 * dam)</code> HP. There is no stack system - by the time the poison ends, you'll lose the listed amount of HP.
-The base chance to inflict poison is 75%. Poison resistance gives a 66% chance to negate the poisoning entirely (a net 25% to poison); having rPois doesn't reduce the amount of poison otherwise. Poison immune creatures, like the [[undead]] and the [[nonliving]], are completely unaffected by this brand.
+The base chance to inflict poison is 75%. Having poison resistance reduces this chance to 25%; rPois doesn't reduce the amount of poison otherwise. Poison immune creatures, like the [[undead]] and the [[nonliving]], are completely unaffected by this brand.
 ==Strategy==

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 ==Strategy==
-Very strong for the early game, since poison doesn't care much about weapon strength. For reference, a +0 [[dagger]] can inflict maximum poison in 2-3 hits. Daggers, [[short sword]]s, and [[whip]]s of venom are great, moderately common weapons. Even with minimal skill investment, a weapon of venom is effective at killing most early game, non-resistant enemies.
+Very strong for the early game, since poison doesn't care much about weapon strength; a +0 [[dagger]] can inflict max poison in 2-3 hits. Therefore. daggers, [[short sword]]s, [[whip]]s, and other weapons of venom are great early finds. Even with minimal skill investment, venom is effective at killing most non-resistant enemies in early [[Dungeon]].
-However, venom falls off by mid game. While poison is great in [[Spider's Nest|Spider]], in branches like [[Snake]] and [[Swamp]], poison resistance is common. And, since poison damage doesn't care much about weapon strength, it starts to feel weak by [[Vaults]] and [[Depths]].
+However, venom falls off by the mid game. While poison is great in [[Spider's Nest|Spider]], in branches like [[Snake]] and [[Swamp]], poison resistance is common. And, since poison damage doesn't care much about weapon strength, it starts to feel lacking by [[Vaults]] and [[Depths]].
 ===Tips & Tricks===

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 Poison works differently for players and monsters. Each attack from a venom weapon has a 75% chance to do the following, depending on target:
-* '''Players attacking monsters:''' The venom brand deals <code>1 + (4 + 1d8 + 1d<1.5 * dam>)/7</code> "[[Poison#Monster Formula|stacks]]" of poison, for dam = damage from the weapon itself.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|attack.cc|1297}}</ref><ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|monster.cc|3985}}</ref> For example, a 1 damage hit can inflict 1-2 stacks of poison. Monsters can be affected by a max. of 4 stacks at a time.
+* '''Players attacking monsters:''' The venom brand deals <code>1 + (4 + 1d8 + 1d<1.5 * dam>)/7</code> "[[Poison#Monster Formula|stacks]]" of poison, for dam = damage from the weapon itself.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|attack.cc|1297}}</ref><ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|monster.cc|3985}}</ref> For example, a 1 damage hit can inflict 1-2 stacks of poison. Monsters can be affected by a max. of 4 stacks at a time. For more detail on poison stacks, see the [[Poison#Monster Formula|Poison]] article.
 * '''Monsters attacking players:''' Inflicts poison equal to <code>4 + 1d8 + 1d(1.5 * dam)</code> HP. There is no stack system - by the time the poison ends, you'll lose the listed amount of HP.
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 Very strong for the early game, since poison doesn't care much about weapon strength. For reference, a +0 [[dagger]] can inflict maximum poison in 2-3 hits. Daggers, [[short sword]]s, and [[whip]]s of venom are great, moderately common weapons. Even with minimal skill investment, a weapon of venom is effective at killing most early game, non-resistant enemies.
-However, venom falls off by mid game. While poison is great in [[Spider's Nest|Spider]], in [[Snake]] and [[Swamp]], poison resistance is common. And, since poison damage doesn't care much about weapon strength, it starts to feel weak by [[Vaults]] and [[Depths]].
+However, venom falls off by mid game. While poison is great in [[Spider's Nest|Spider]], in branches like [[Snake]] and [[Swamp]], poison resistance is common. And, since poison damage doesn't care much about weapon strength, it starts to feel weak by [[Vaults]] and [[Depths]].
 ===Tips & Tricks===

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 Poison works differently for players and monsters. Each attack from a venom weapon has a 75% chance to do the following, depending on target:
-* '''Players attacking monsters:''' The venom brand deals <code>1 + (4 + 1d8 + 1d<1.5 * melee_dmg>)/7</code> "[[Poison#Monster Formula|stacks]]" of poison.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|attack.cc|1297}}</ref><ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|monster.cc|3985}}</ref> For example, a 1 damage hit can inflict 1-2 stacks of poison. Monsters can be affected by a max. of 4 stacks at a time.
+* '''Players attacking monsters:''' The venom brand deals <code>1 + (4 + 1d8 + 1d<1.5 * dam>)/7</code> "[[Poison#Monster Formula|stacks]]" of poison, for dam = damage from the weapon itself.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|attack.cc|1297}}</ref><ref>{{source ref|0.30.0|monster.cc|3985}}</ref> For example, a 1 damage hit can inflict 1-2 stacks of poison. Monsters can be affected by a max. of 4 stacks at a time.
 :For more detail on poison stacks, see the [[Poison#Monster Formula|Poison]] article.
-* '''Monsters attacking players:''' Inflicts poison equal to <code>4 + 1d8 + 1d(1.5 * melee_damage)</code> HP. There is no stack system - by the time the poison ends, you'll lose the listed amount of HP.
+* '''Monsters attacking players:''' Inflicts poison equal to <code>4 + 1d8 + 1d(1.5 * dam)</code> HP. There is no stack system - by the time the poison ends, you'll lose the listed amount of HP.
 The base chance to inflict poison is 75%. Poison resistance gives a 66% chance to negate the poisoning entirely (a net 25% to poison); having rPois doesn't reduce the amount of poison otherwise. Poison immune creatures, like the [[undead]] and the [[nonliving]], are completely unaffected by this brand.

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 ==Strategy==
-Very strong for the early game, since poison doesn't care much about weapon strength. For reference, a +0 [[dagger]] can inflict maximum poison in 2-3 hits. Daggers, [[short sword]]s, and [[whip]]s of venom are great, moderately common weapons. even with minimal skill investment, a weapon of venom is effective at killing most early game, non-resistant enemies.
+Very strong for the early game, since poison doesn't care much about weapon strength. For reference, a +0 [[dagger]] can inflict maximum poison in 2-3 hits. Daggers, [[short sword]]s, and [[whip]]s of venom are great, moderately common weapons; even with minimal skill investment, a weapon of venom is effective at killing most early game, non-resistant enemies.
 However, venom falls off by mid game. While poison is great in [[Spider's Nest|Spider]], in [[Snake]] and [[Swamp]], poison resistance is common. And, since poison damage doesn't care much about weapon strength, it starts to feel weak by [[Vaults]] and [[Depths]].

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 * '''Monsters attacking players:''' Inflicts poison equal to <code>4 + 1d8 + 1d(1.5 * melee_damage)</code> HP. There is no stack system - by the time the poison ends, you'll lose the listed amount of HP.
-Poison resistance gives a 66% chance to negate the poisoning entirely, meaning venom has a net chance of 25% to poison. Resistance doesn't reduce the amount of poison otherwise. Poison immune creatures, like the [[undead]] and the [[nonliving]], are completely unaffected by this brand.
+The base chance to inflict poison is 75%. Poison resistance gives a 66% chance to negate the poisoning entirely (a net 25% to poison); having rPois doesn't reduce the amount of poison otherwise. Poison immune creatures, like the [[undead]] and the [[nonliving]], are completely unaffected by this brand.
 ==Strategy==
-Very strong for the early game, since poison doesn't care much about weapon strength. For reference, a +0 [[dagger]] can inflict maximum poison in 2-3 hits. Daggers, [[short sword]]s, and [[whip]]s of venom are great, moderately common weapons; even with minimal skill investment, a weapon of venom is effective at killing most early game, non-resistant enemies.
+Very strong for the early game, since poison doesn't care much about weapon strength. For reference, a +0 [[dagger]] can inflict maximum poison in 2-3 hits. Daggers, [[short sword]]s, and [[whip]]s of venom are great, moderately common weapons. even with minimal skill investment, a weapon of venom is effective at killing most early game, non-resistant enemies.
 However, venom falls off by mid game. While poison is great in [[Spider's Nest|Spider]], in [[Snake]] and [[Swamp]], poison resistance is common. And, since poison damage doesn't care much about weapon strength, it starts to feel weak by [[Vaults]] and [[Depths]].
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 ==History==
-* Prior to [[0.18]], poison resistant monsters were completely immune to the venom brand.
+*Prior to [[0.18]], poison resistant monsters were completely immune to the venom brand.
 ==References==

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 ===Tips & Tricks===
-* Ways to [[kite]] melee enemies are valuable with venom. [[Swiftness]] and [[Blink]] allow you to escape from melee range, allowing the poison to do its work.
+*Against melee enemies, inflicting max poison, then backing off, is a strong tactic - even when considering [[attacks of opportunity]]. Ways to [[kite]] enemies are valuable as a result. [[Swiftness]] and [[Blink]] allow you to escape from melee range, avoiding the extra attacks.
-* Combos well with [[Ignite Poison]], a spell that converts poison into instant fire damage. You can attack a few times with venom, reach max poison stacks, then cast Ignite Poison for 8d13 AC- and EV- ignoring damage.
+*Combos well with [[Ignite Poison]], a spell that converts poison into instant fire damage. You can attack a few times with venom, reach max poison stacks, then cast Ignite Poison for 8d13 AC- and EV- ignoring damage.
 ==History==