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 ==Strategy==
 The lack of healing potions is a great hindrance (especially early on, though it remains significant for the entire game), as it removes one of your main emergency options. There are a few ways to compensate:
-*[[God]] choice - [[Elyvilon]] and [[Ru]] offer immediate ways to heal. Potions of curing and heal wounds from [[Gozag]]'s Potion Petition can restore Vine Stalkers' health too.
+*[[God]] choice - [[Elyvilon]] and [[Ru]] offer immediate ways to heal. Healing effects from [[Gozag]]'s Potion Petition can restore Vine Stalkers' health too.
 *High [[stealth]] - Vine Stalkers have great stealth aptitudes, allowing them to escape from encounters both early and late game. This allows you to find a safe place to recover.

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 ==Strategy==
-The lack of healing potions is a great hindrance, especially in the early game, as it removes one of your main emergency options. It remains significant for the entire game, though. There are a few ways to compensate:
+The lack of healing potions is a great hindrance (especially early on, though it remains significant for the entire game), as it removes one of your main emergency options. There are a few ways to compensate:
 *[[God]] choice - [[Elyvilon]] and [[Ru]] offer immediate ways to heal. Potions of curing and heal wounds from [[Gozag]]'s Potion Petition can restore Vine Stalkers' health too.
 *High [[stealth]] - Vine Stalkers have great stealth aptitudes, allowing them to escape from encounters both early and late game. This allows you to find a safe place to recover.

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 ''This page refers to the player [[species]]. For the monster, see [[Vine stalker (monster)]].''
 {{flavour|Limber in shape, Vine Stalkers are anthropomorphic masses of thick vines. They possess a once-humanoid core, parasitised moments before death by the magical vines. Lacking any other discernible features, their faces are dominated by the disproportionate, vicious maw with which they disrupt and devour the magical energies of their foes.

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-In spite of their [[Spriggan]]-sized [[HP]] pools, lack of healing potions, and unimpressive defensive aptitudes, Vine Stalkers are actually quite durable. They have innate [[spirit shield]], an MP-stealing bite, and the regeneration of a [[Troll]], all with full access to armour. These allow Vine Stalkers to sustain combat for a decent time. However, they are still vulnerable to sudden spikes of damage.
+In spite of their [[Spriggan]]-sized [[HP]] pools, lack of healing potions, and unimpressive defensive aptitudes, Vine Stalkers are actually quite durable. With innate [[spirit shield]], an MP-stealing bite, the regeneration of a [[Troll]], and no armour limitation, they can sustain combat for a fair bit of time. However, Vine Stalkers are still vulnerable to sudden spikes of damage. Otherwise, their aptitudes are decent across the board (except for Armour/Dodging), so they can do well in most roles.
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 ==Strategy==
-The lack of healing potions is a great hindrance in the early game, removing one of the outs towards early [[adder]]s and the like. It's still a significant drawback for the entire game. There are a few ways to compensate:
+The lack of healing potions is a great hindrance, especially in the early game, as it removes one of your main emergency options. It remains significant for the entire game, though. There are a few ways to compensate:
-* [[God]] choice - gods like [[Elyvilon]] and [[Ru]] offer immediate ways to heal. Potions of curing and heal wounds from [[Gozag]]'s Potion Petition can restore Vine Stalkers' health too.
+Vine Stalkers are fairly versatile. Apart from a knack for [[Stealth]] and a general weakness in defensive skills, Vine Stalkers have no real aptitude issues. The following builds ''are not the only way to play'', but have a few synergies with Vine Stalkers:
-* High [[stealth]] - Vine Stalkers have high stealth, allowing them to escape from encounters both early and late game. This allows you to find a safe place to recover.
+*Stabber / [[Short Blades]] user: High stealth makes it easier to stab and avoid foes. Even against foes you can't stab, Short Blades are still decent weapons, due to the added damage from your bite. The faster you attack, the more bite attacks you make per turn, and Short Blades are fast weapons. [[Uskayaw]] is a strong god choice, giving you many opportunities to stab via irresistible [[confusion]] and [[paralysis]].
 *Melee + caster hybrid: Their bite can be used to recover lost MP.

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 Vine Stalkers are fairly versatile. Apart from a knack for [[Stealth]] and a general weakness in defensive skills, Vine Stalkers have no real aptitude issues. The following builds ''are not the only way to play'', but have a few synergies:
-*Stabber / [[Short Blades]] user: High stealth makes it easier to stab and avoid foes. Against foe you can't stab, Short Blades are still decent weapons, due to the added damage from your bite. The faster you attack, the more bite attacks you make per turn, and Short Blades are fast weapons. [[Uskayaw]] is a strong god choice, giving you many opportunities to stab through irresistible [[confusion]] and [[paralysis]].
+*Stabber / [[Short Blades]] user: High stealth makes it easier to stab and avoid foes. Against foes you can't stab, Short Blades are still decent weapons, due to the added damage from your bite. The faster you attack, the more bite attacks you make per turn, and Short Blades are fast weapons. [[Uskayaw]] is a strong god choice, giving you many opportunities to stab via irresistible [[confusion]] and [[paralysis]].
 *Melee + caster hybrid: Their bite can be used to recover lost MP.

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 ==Innate Abilities==
 *'''[[Fangs]] 2:''' Vine Stalkers possess a [[auxiliary attack|bite]] attack.
-**'''[[Antimagic]] Bite''': Vine Stalkers' bite is 2.5x more likely to activate, deals more damage, and inflicts [[antimagic]] on enemies (which makes their spells less likely to be cast). Each bite also has a chance to restore MP, depending on damage inflicted and your current MP percentage. You don't need to inflict the antimagic status to restore MP; even if a target has no spells, you can restore MP. Unlike antimagic weapons, there is no penalty to your maximum MP.
+**'''[[Antimagic]] Bite''': Vine Stalkers' bite is 2.5x more likely to activate, deals more damage, and inflicts [[antimagic]] on enemies (which makes their spells less likely to be cast). Each bite also has a chance to restore MP, depending on damage inflicted and your current MP percentage. You don't need to inflict the antimagic status to restore MP, so even if a target has no spells, you can recover MP. Unlike antimagic weapons, there is no penalty to your maximum MP.
 {{crawlquote|'''Damage done''': Fangs_level×2 + XL/3<br>'''Drained MP''': 1dDamage_done × (1.25 - MP/MaxMP)}}
 *'''[[No Potion Heal]] 2:''' Vine Stalkers cannot restore HP with [[potion]]s.

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 ''This page refers to the player [[species]]. For the monster, see [[Vine stalker (monster)]].''
 {{flavour|Limber in shape, Vine Stalkers are anthropomorphic masses of thick vines. They possess a once-humanoid core, parasitised moments before death by the magical vines. Lacking any other discernible features, their faces are dominated by the disproportionate, vicious maw with which they disrupt and devour the magical energies of their foes.
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 *'''[[No Potion Heal]] 2:''' Vine Stalkers cannot restore HP with [[potion]]s.
 **This includes the health effects of [[potions of ambrosia]], but does not prevent ambrosia's MP regen or the [[status effect]] removal provided by [[potions of curing]].
 *'''[[Spirit shield]]:''' Vine Stalkers share incoming damage between their HP and MP.
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 *+5 [[willpower]] per level.
 *Upgrade to [[Fangs]] 3 at level 8.
 ==Starting Skills and Equipment==
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 ==History==
-*In [[0.31]], Vine Stalkers will get the Regeneration mutation at level 1.
+*Prior to [[0.31]], Vine Stalkers only gained the Regeneration mutation at level 4.
 *Prior to [[0.28]], Vine Stalkers' Regeneration 1 would provide +1 HP/turn.
 *Prior to [[0.27]], Vine Stalkers would reach Regeneration 2 at level 12. However, each level of Regeneration provided +0.4 HP/turn.
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 *Vine Stalkers were added in [[0.14]].
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