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Hordes: /* Strategy */

2025-07-30T11:00:52Z

‎Strategy

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2024-02-14T17:23:54Z

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Hordes: /* Strategy */

2023-07-10T21:37:38Z

‎Strategy

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2023-06-18T15:15:41Z

‎Strategy

Hordes: read flow

2023-06-15T23:57:45Z

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Hordes at 21:01, 15 June 2023

2023-06-15T21:01:35Z

Hordes at 20:59, 15 June 2023

2023-06-15T20:59:50Z

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2023-06-15T20:57:33Z

‎Strategy

Hordes at 20:57, 15 June 2023

2023-06-15T20:57:20Z

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 A whip with a "flat" [[brand]], namely [[venom]] or [[electrocution]], is a powerful weapon in the early game. A whip of of either brand can kill most enemies up to [[Lair]] with minimal skill investment. Without a good brand, you should upgrade to a [[mace]] or better, at least once you get some Maces & Flails skill.
-Note that there is some risk with using whips at 0 skill. Since you attack at 1.1 delay (which is >1.0), monsters have a chance to get an extra turn on you. However, whips are stronger ''on average''. If you need to use a 0 skill weapon in the first place, you'll likely prefer the better performance of a whip. At 2 Maces & Flails skill, whips attack at 1.0 delay, negating this risk entirely.
+Note that there is some risk with using whips at 0 skill. Since you attack at 1.1 delay (which is >1.0), monsters have a chance to get an extra turn on you. However, whips are stronger ''on average'' than a dagger / short sword. If you need to use a 0 skill weapon in the first place, you'll likely prefer the better performance of a whip. At 2 Maces & Flails skill, whips attack at 1.0 delay, negating this risk entirely unless there is an attack speed penalty.
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 ==History==
-Prior to [[0.14]], whips could possess the [[reaching]] brand.
+*Prior to [[0.14]], whips could possess the [[reaching]] brand.
+*In earlier versions of the game, whips did as little as 4 damage and had 12 base delay, which made them close to worthless.
 {{weapons}}
 [[Category:Maces & Flails]]

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 {{weapon
   |name        = Whip
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   |acquirement = 0
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-{{flavour|A long plaited strip of leather. Originally developed for use in disagreements with cattle, this simple weapon is now widely used to settle differences between all sorts of creatures.}}
+{{flavour|A long plaited strip of leather. Originally developed for use in disagreements with cattle, this simple weapon is now widely used to settle differences between all sorts of creatures.
 {{crawlquote|This weapon falls into the '[[Maces & Flails]]' category. It is a one handed weapon.}}

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 At 0 skill, a +0 whip is stronger than a [[short sword]], [[dagger]], or [[club]], but weaker than a [[spear]]. It does not have the stabbing benefits of the former two weapons, but hits harder.
-A whip with a "flat" [[brand]], such as [[venom]] or [[electrocution]], is a powerful weapon in the early game. A whip of electrocution can kill most enemies up to [[Lair]], with minimal skill investment. Without a good brand, you should upgrade to a [[mace]] or better, at least once you get some Maces & Flails skill.
+A whip with a "flat" [[brand]], namely [[venom]] or [[electrocution]], is a powerful weapon in the early game. A whip of of either brand can kill most enemies up to [[Lair]] with minimal skill investment. Without a good brand, you should upgrade to a [[mace]] or better, at least once you get some Maces & Flails skill.
 Note that there is some risk with using whips at 0 skill. Since you attack at 1.1 delay (which is >1.0), monsters have a chance to get an extra turn on you. However, whips are stronger ''on average''. If you need to use a 0 skill weapon in the first place, you'll likely prefer the better performance of a whip. At 2 Maces & Flails skill, whips attack at 1.0 delay, negating this risk entirely.

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 ==Strategy==
-At 0 skill, a +0 whip is stronger than a [[short blade]], [[dagger]], or [[club]], but weaker than a [[spear]]. It does not have the stabbing benefits of the former two weapons, but hits harder.
+At 0 skill, a +0 whip is stronger than a [[short sword]], [[dagger]], or [[club]], but weaker than a [[spear]]. It does not have the stabbing benefits of the former two weapons, but hits harder.
 A whip with a "flat" [[brand]], such as [[venom]] or [[electrocution]], is a powerful weapon in the early game. A whip of electrocution can kill most enemies up to [[Lair]], with minimal skill investment. Without a good brand, you should upgrade to a [[mace]] or better, at least once you get some Maces & Flails skill.

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 At 0 skill, a +0 whip is stronger than a [[short blade]], [[dagger]], or [[club]], but weaker than a [[spear]]. It does not have the stabbing benefits of the former two weapons, but attacks faster.
-There is some risk with using whips at 0 skill. Since you attack at 1.1 delay (which is >1.0), monsters have a chance to double-turn you. However, whips are stronger ''on average''. If you need to use a 0 skill weapon in the first place, you'll likely prefer the better performance of a whip.
+There is some risk with using whips at 0 skill. Since you attack at 1.1 delay (which is >1.0), monsters have a chance to double-turn you. However, whips are stronger ''on average''. If you need to use a 0 skill weapon in the first place, you'll likely prefer the better performance of a whip. At 2 Maces & Flails skill, whips attack at 1.0 delay, negating this risk entirely.
-A whip with a "flat" [[brand]], such as [[venom]] or [[electrocution]], is a powerful weapon in the earlygame. A whip of electrocution can kill most enemies up to [[Lair]], for minimal skill investment.
+A whip with a "flat" [[brand]], such as [[venom]] or [[electrocution]], is a powerful weapon in the earlygame. A whip of electrocution can kill most enemies up to [[Lair]], for minimal skill investment. Without a good brand, you'll want to upgrade to a [[mace]] or better as soon as you gain some Maces & Flails skill.
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