Zin - Revision history

Oneirical: add blindness to the wrath

2025-12-14T18:53:39Z

add blindness to the wrath

KlinkTheFink: Piety gain for unclean or chaotic monsters only, not evil

2025-09-09T12:54:35Z

Piety gain for unclean or chaotic monsters only, not evil

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2025-03-03T23:39:02Z

‎Strategy

Patrick2011b: +CBA per commit 99f3dc8

2024-06-21T04:29:41Z

+CBA per commit 99f3dc8

Hordes: /* Given Abilities */

2024-03-23T19:26:43Z

‎Given Abilities

Hordes: /* Appreciates */ gold from the initial worship tithe ignores absdepth, so modify the formula

2024-03-11T18:38:30Z

‎Appreciates: gold from the initial worship tithe ignores absdepth, so modify the formula

Hordes: /* Appreciates */ mention donating at 200 piety

2024-03-11T18:28:41Z

‎Appreciates: mention donating at 200 piety

Hordes: /* Appreciates */

2024-03-11T18:26:44Z

‎Appreciates

NormalPerson7: /* Given Abilities */ Add lifesaving chance

2024-03-06T20:35:21Z

‎Given Abilities: Add lifesaving chance

Ge0ff: /* Deprecates */ +note on converting to Zin

2024-01-26T14:04:38Z

‎Deprecates: +note on converting to Zin

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 *1/3 chance: If possible, remove 1-7 random good mutations. Otherwise, reroll from the remaining options.
-*1/2 chance: Recites the Axioms of Law at you, inflicting confusion, sleep, or paralysis (equal chance of each).
+*1/2 chance: Recites the Axioms of Law at you, inflicting blindness, confusion, sleep, or paralysis (equal chance of each).
 *1/6 chance: Makes an extremely loud noise at your current position.

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 **If you are at 200 piety, any piety from donations is saved until you drop below 200 piety.
-Zin also appreciates killing [[evil]] or [[chaotic]] creatures, which has a chance to grant piety.
+Zin also appreciates killing unclean or [[chaotic]] creatures, which has a chance to grant piety.<ref>{{source ref|0.33.1|god-conduct.cc|697}}</ref>
 ==Deprecates==
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 Zin is more subtle than most gods. Instead of killing enemies directly, Zin offers a variety of defensive abilities and buffs. From trapping enemies with Imprison, or debuffing them with Recite, Zin is great for strong characters (and/or strong players) who don't need more combat power, but appreciate tools that can handle the toughest of situations.
-Zin is also useful for the [[extended]] game. With so many [[evil]] monsters, piety is gained quickly. Defensive tools are useful when [[torment]] can make any situation nasty. Zin also blocks [[mutation]]s and [[Hell's mystical force]], which is a nice benefit.
+Zin is also useful for the [[extended]] game. With so many unclean and [[chaotic]] monsters, piety is gained quickly. Defensive tools are useful when [[torment]] can make any situation nasty. Zin also blocks [[mutation]]s and [[Hell's mystical force]], which is a nice benefit.
 In terms of overall god strategy, remember that you can switch amongst Zin, [[Elyvilon]], and [[the Shining One]] without incurring wrath, and you even get some starting piety with your new god choice. And as long as you do not worship an evil or chaotic god at any point later on in the game, you will not incur wrath if you leave any of these three gods. Note that Zin isn't "free" to worship before you find other gods, since Zin takes a tithe.

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 ==Strategy==
-Zin is more subtle than most gods. Instead of killing enemies directly, Zin offers a variety of defensive abilities and buffs. From trapping enemies with Imprison, or debuffing them with Recite, Zin is great for strong characters (and/or strong players) who can sacrifice power for tools that can handle the toughest of situations.
+Zin is more subtle than most gods. Instead of killing enemies directly, Zin offers a variety of defensive abilities and buffs. From trapping enemies with Imprison, or debuffing them with Recite, Zin is great for strong characters (and/or strong players) who don't need more combat power, but appreciate tools that can handle the toughest of situations.
 Zin is also useful for the [[extended]] game. With so many [[evil]] monsters, piety is gained quickly. Defensive tools are useful when [[torment]] can make any situation nasty. Zin also blocks [[mutation]]s and [[Hell's mystical force]], which is a nice benefit.
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 ===Ability Strategy===
 *In spite of the fact that Zin abhors chaos, Recite produces a variety of random effects. Weak effects are always possible, but since Recite is a practically free ability, you might as well use it. It lasts for 3 turns, each turn can produce an effect, and you can do anything (including spells, scrolls, and other "spoken" abilities) during the time.
-*Vitalisation is fairly cheap. It offers a stat boost, poison immunity, and blocks a few statuses. It won't ''cure'' statuses, however, so be proactive and know what inflicts what status. The poison immunity blocks the effects of [[curare]] or a [[hornet]]'s sting.
+*Vitalisation is fairly cheap. It offers a stat boost, poison immunity, and blocks a few statuses. It won't ''cure'' statuses, however, so be proactive and know what inflicts what status. The poison immunity blocks the effects of [[curare]] and the paralytic poison of [[hornet]]s / [[jorogumo]].
 *Imprison is a strong ability whenever you need to get away from a scary monster. Whether it'd be a [[unique]] or just an out of depth monster, the silver walls will allow you to avoid them. Then, you can explore a different area, skip the floor, or even swap branches. Keep in mind that Imprison won't work if you are adjacent to your target. It tries to displace monsters adjacent to your target - if there's no space, it will also fail.
 *Sanctuary is one of the most powerful emergency abilities in the game. Use it when you're surrounded and/or the situation is quickly going pear-shaped. Make sure you have an actual way to escape, lest Sanctuary only delay your death. Note that you can't recast Sanctuary while you already have one still active, and that it costs a hefty 15 piety to invoke.

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 ==History==
 *Prior to [[0.27]], Sanctuary provided a [[holy word]] effect inside it.
 *Prior to the removal of the [[food]] system in [[0.26]], Zin forbid eating the flesh of monsters with [[Monster intelligence|human intelligence]], [[holy]] beings, and cannibalism. Species with high hunger costs, namely [[Troll]]s, were more difficult to play as a result.

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 *'''Vitalisation''' - Temporarily gives you the Vit status. While active, it gives full poison immunity, protects you from sickness, confusion, petrification, and stat drain, and boosts all your stats by <code>[[Invocations]]/3</code>. Lasts for <code>60 + 2d10</code> turns, regardless of skill.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|god-abil.cc|1240}}</ref> (1-2 Piety)
 '''[[Piety|Piety level ***]]''': "Devout"
-*'''Imprison''' - Temporarily creates a silver-walled prison around an enemy, pushing away monsters adjacent to the target, if applicable. It will fail if you are adjacent to the monster, or if there is no space to push adjacent monsters. Duration depends on [[Invocations]] skill. Strong monsters may break themselves out before the effect ends on its own (chance of doing so depends on monster's [[HD]]). (5 MP, 4-6 Piety)
+*'''Imprison''' - Temporarily creates a silver-walled prison around an enemy, pushing away monsters adjacent to the target. It will fail if there is no space to push an adjacent monster to, or if you are adjacent to the monster. Duration depends on [[Invocations]] skill. Strong monsters may break themselves out before the effect ends on its own (chance of doing so depends on monster's [[HD]]). (5 MP, 4-6 Piety)
 '''[[Piety|Piety level ****]]''': "Orthodox"
 *No new abilities.

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 :For tithes, base piety gain = <code>gold_taken * 141 / (40 + 2 * absolute_depth)</code>,<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|god-prayer.cc|219}}</ref> but this can be modified:
 :*If the gold was obtained from the [[Orcish Mines]], the piety is halved.
-:*For the gold taken upon worship, and any gold from a [[scroll of acquirement]], the tithe's effect is reduced. This gold is only "worth" <code>10 * log2(gold_taken / 10)</code> gold for piety purposes (max. 50 gold).
+:*For the gold taken upon worship, and any gold from a [[scroll of acquirement]], the tithe's effect is reduced. Gold from these sources is instead worth <code>30 * log2(gold_taken / 10)</code> piety (max. 150 piety). If the tithe was reduced this way, ignore the Orcish Mines penalty entirely.
 :*Zin knows if you try to save gold piles before worship ("Zin ignores your late donation.").
 *You may also donate half your current gold. The piety from donations = <code>(gold) * ln(gold) / 200</code>, which always gives less piety than a tithe of the same amount.<ref>{{source ref|0.30.1|god-abil.cc|238}}</ref> Piety is not given right away; it is distributed over a lengthy period of time. You'll receive an indication of what Zin's opinion towards you will be once the piety is fully distributed.

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 **One time big donations are more efficient than multiple small ones. For example, five donations of 100 gold would give 8-12 piety, but one donation of 500 gold would give 15-16 piety.
 **Late-game converts can buy their way from 0* to 6* for ~3600 gold donated.
 Zin also appreciates killing [[evil]] or [[chaotic]] creatures, which has a chance to grant piety.

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 ==Given Abilities==
 '''[[Piety|Piety level -]]''': "Anchorite"
-*Zin may protect you from a fatal instance of damage. The chance increases with piety. (Passive, no cost)
+*Zin may protect you from a fatal instance of damage. The chance increases linearly from 10% at 0 piety to 28% at maximum. (Passive, no cost)
 *Zin may protect you from the effects of [[Hell]]'s mystical force. The chance increases with piety, up to 50% at maximum. (Passive)
 *Zin may protect you from mutation at a <code>(piety/1.6)</code>% chance, increasing up to 100% at 160 piety (******). (Passive)

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 *You use unclean or [[chaotic]] magic or items.
-If you use any [[talisman]], you will be excommunicated.
+If you use any [[talisman]], you will be excommunicated. Also, Zin won't let you join while you're transformed.
 Zin will forgive accidental transgressions, i.e. performing a forbidden action via an unidentified item.