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{{flavour|A terrible weapon, forged in the fires of Hell.
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"Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit: occidentis telum est."<br>
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"A sword by itself does not slay; it is merely the weapon used by the slayer."
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-Lucius Annaeus Seneca, _Epistulae Morales ad Lucilium_, Letter XXXVII:<br>
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Some arguments in favor of the simple life, l. 30. ca. 65. A.D.<br>
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trans. Richard Mott Gummere, 1917.}}
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{{crawlquote|This weapon falls into the [[Long Blades]] category. It is a one handed weapon.}}
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'''Demon blades''' are one of the best one-handed Long Blades you can find. Although [[double sword]]s deal more damage, demon blades are slightly faster, with roughly the same damage/turn.
  
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Worshippers of [[good]] [[god]]s cannot attack with them without suffering [[penance]]. However, worshippers [[the Shining One]] can convert a demon blade into a [[eudemon blade]], with better stats and the [[holy wrath]] brand. You can reverse the process with [[Kikubaaqudgha]]'s or [[Lugonu]]'s blessing.
  
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{{crawlquote|This weapon falls into the '[[Long Blades]]' category. It is a one handed weapon, and it is better for the dexterous.
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==Strategy==
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Demon weapons are often found on the [[hell knight]]s in the [[Depths]] and the [[Vestibule of Hell]], often with good [[enchant]]ment levels and [[brand]]s.
  
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'''Demon blades''' are one of the better long blades you can still wield with a [[shields|shield]]. Although less powerful than [[double sword]]s, they are easy to find in the late-game off of [[hell knight]]s and usually generate with decent [[brand]]s and [[scroll of enchant weapon|enchantment]] values.
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===Compared to double sword===
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On most species, [[double sword]]s are mostly equivalent to demon blades. If both weapons are at minimum delay, a +0 demon blade is 1% stronger than a +0 double sword against a 0 AC opponent. As the demon blade attacks faster, it is penalized more by [[AC]], though it benefits more from [[slaying]] and [[auxiliary attack]]s.  
  
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Demonspawn also deal slightly more damage while wielding them.  Also, worshipers of [[good]] [[god]]s cannot attack with them without suffering [[penance]]. However, worshipers of [[the Shining One]] can convert a demon blade into a more powerful [[eudemon blade]] of [[holy wrath]] by wielding it and praying at his [[altar]] once they reach max piety. You can also reverse the process at [[Kiku]]'s or [[Lugonu]]'s altars, but this is usually a bad trade.
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Overall, the differences are too small to make an impact. A +9 demon blade is enough to win you the game, as is a +9 double sword. Generally, the sword you get ''first'' should be the sword that you use. (The sword you get first can benefit first from [[scrolls of enchant weapon]]).
  
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For small species ([[Kobold]] and [[Spriggan]]), the demon blade will usually come out ahead, because it does not use the shield slot.
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==History==
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*In [[0.28]], Long Blades lost [[riposte]]. Damage was increased back to pre-riposte levels.
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*In [[0.19]], Long Blades gained riposte. Demon blades were reduced by 1 base damage to compensate.
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*Prior to [[0.14]], demon blades dealt slightly more damage than normal in the hands of [[demonspawn]] characters.
  
 
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Latest revision as of 14:56, 12 February 2024

Version 0.31: This article is up to date for the latest stable release of Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup.
Name Demon blade
Skill Long Blades
Damage 13
Accuracy -1
Base delay (%) 13 (130%)
Min delay 6 at skill 14
Hands 1H
Size Medium
Ranged? No
A terrible weapon, forged in the fires of Hell.

"Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit: occidentis telum est."
"A sword by itself does not slay; it is merely the weapon used by the slayer."

-Lucius Annaeus Seneca, _Epistulae Morales ad Lucilium_, Letter XXXVII:
Some arguments in favor of the simple life, l. 30. ca. 65. A.D.
trans. Richard Mott Gummere, 1917.

This weapon falls into the Long Blades category. It is a one handed weapon.

Demon blades are one of the best one-handed Long Blades you can find. Although double swords deal more damage, demon blades are slightly faster, with roughly the same damage/turn.

Worshippers of good gods cannot attack with them without suffering penance. However, worshippers the Shining One can convert a demon blade into a eudemon blade, with better stats and the holy wrath brand. You can reverse the process with Kikubaaqudgha's or Lugonu's blessing.

Strategy

Demon weapons are often found on the hell knights in the Depths and the Vestibule of Hell, often with good enchantment levels and brands.

Compared to double sword

On most species, double swords are mostly equivalent to demon blades. If both weapons are at minimum delay, a +0 demon blade is 1% stronger than a +0 double sword against a 0 AC opponent. As the demon blade attacks faster, it is penalized more by AC, though it benefits more from slaying and auxiliary attacks.

Overall, the differences are too small to make an impact. A +9 demon blade is enough to win you the game, as is a +9 double sword. Generally, the sword you get first should be the sword that you use. (The sword you get first can benefit first from scrolls of enchant weapon).

For small species (Kobold and Spriggan), the demon blade will usually come out ahead, because it does not use the shield slot.

Demon blade Eudemon blade
Demon blade.png Blessed blade.png
Image
Mundane Demon blade.png
Magical Demon blade2.png
Artifact Demon blade3.png
Unrandarts
"Leech" Demon blade leech.png

History

  • In 0.28, Long Blades lost riposte. Damage was increased back to pre-riposte levels.
  • In 0.19, Long Blades gained riposte. Demon blades were reduced by 1 base damage to compensate.
  • Prior to 0.14, demon blades dealt slightly more damage than normal in the hands of demonspawn characters.
Weapons
Axes Battleaxe • Broad axe • Executioner's axe • Hand axe • War axe
Maces & Flails Club • Demon whip • Dire flail • Eveningstar • Flail • Giant club • Giant spiked club • Great mace • Mace (Hammer) • Morningstar • Sacred scourge • Whip
Long Blades Demon blade • Double sword • Eudemon blade • Falchion • Great sword • Long sword • Scimitar • Triple sword
Polearms Bardiche • Demon trident • Glaive • Halberd (Scythe) • Spear • Trident • Trishula
Ranged Weapons Arbalest • Hand cannon • Longbow • Orcbow • Shortbow • Sling • Triple crossbow
Short Blades Dagger • Quick blade • Rapier • Short sword
Staves Lajatang • Magical staff • Quarterstaff
Throwing Boomerang • Dart • Javelin • Large rock • Stone • Throwing net
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