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''This page is about the player [[species]]. For the monster, see [[Ogre (monster)]]. For a list of all monstrous ogres, see [[List of ogres]].''
{{flavour|Ogres are huge, chunky creatures who typically are strong rather than smart, and not nimble at all. Ogres mature almost as quickly as Humans.
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{{flavour|Ogres are huge, chunky creatures who are very strong and robust, but are not nimble at all. They possess a raw talent for magic, but are poor at making use of magical devices. Ogres mature almost as quickly as Humans.
  
Their preferred methods of avoiding beatings are dodging and the use of shields. Many Ogres find it natural to wield some large and blunt weapon. (Countless lethal incidents have taught them to leave most edged weapons be.) While all sophisticated forms of missile combat are too awkward for them, they are good at throwing things, in particular boulders.
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Their preferred methods of avoiding beatings are dodging and the use of shields, but they can also use armours made from magical hides, since these accommodate their large frames. Ogres are proficient at using all types of melee weapons, yet all sophisticated forms of missile combat are too awkward for them. They are, however, good at throwing things, in particular boulders.}}
 
 
Contrary to expectations, Ogres are not reduced to mindless brutes. They possess a raw talent for witchcraft, letting them pick up the basics of spellcasting at an amazing speed. However, the more arcane schools of magic are foreign to them and are only learned at poor rates.}}
 
  
 
==Innate Abilities==
 
==Innate Abilities==
 
*[[Good_mutations#Tough_Skin|Tough Skin 1]]: Ogres have +1 [[AC]].
 
*[[Good_mutations#Tough_Skin|Tough Skin 1]]: Ogres have +1 [[AC]].
*Ogres are [[Size#Player Sizes|large]] creatures. Unlike smaller species, they can use [[giant club]]s and [[giant spiked club]]s, but cannot wear any armour but [[robe]]s, [[cloak]]s, [[hat]]s, [[animal skin]]s, [[troll hide]]s, [[troll leather armour]]s, [[dragon armour|dragon hide]], or [[dragon armour]]. [[Buckler]]s are also too small for them, but they can wield [[shield]]s and [[large shield]]s more easily than normal.
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*Ogres are [[Size#Player Sizes|large]] creatures. Unlike smaller species, they can use [[giant club]]s, [[giant spiked club]]s, and [[large rock]]s, but cannot wear any armour apart from [[robe]]s, [[cloak]]s, [[hat]]s, [[animal skin]]s, [[troll leather armour]], or [[dragon armour]]. [[Buckler]]s are also too small for them, but they can wield [[shield]]s and [[large shield]]s more easily than normal.
*Ogres are large enough to attack at normal speed while standing in [[shallow water]] (though they still move slowly through it).
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*Ogres are large enough to attack normally while standing in [[shallow water]] (though they still move slowly through it).
  
Ogres have a base [[Strength]] of 12, [[Intelligence]] of 7 and [[Dexterity]] of 5 (before Background modifiers) and normal base [[magic points]].
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Ogres have a base [[Strength]] of 11, [[Intelligence]] of 9, and [[Dexterity]] of 4 (before Background modifiers) and normal base [[magic points]].
  
 
==Preferred Backgrounds==
 
==Preferred Backgrounds==
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*Incompatible body armour is replaced with an [[animal skin]] or [[robe]].  
 
*Incompatible body armour is replaced with an [[animal skin]] or [[robe]].  
 
*[[Helmet]]s are replaced with [[hat]]s.
 
*[[Helmet]]s are replaced with [[hat]]s.
*[[Meat ration]]s replace [[bread ration]]s.
 
 
*Any [[Armour]] skill is replaced by [[Dodging]].
 
*Any [[Armour]] skill is replaced by [[Dodging]].
 
*Ogre [[hunter]]s are given a choice of [[large rock]]s instead of [[javelin]]s.
 
*Ogre [[hunter]]s are given a choice of [[large rock]]s instead of [[javelin]]s.
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==Strategy==
 
==Strategy==
As of 0.20, Ogres have had their maces & flails aptitude lowered from +3 to -1, to encourage them to consider other weapon types rather than only giant clubs.  While giant weaponry still has the highest base damage of all melee weapons, it will take more training to get them to a usable level of accuracy and attack delay. Consider other options such as polearms or unarmed - although it is likely that most ogres will still default to giant clubs. 
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*As of 0.20, Ogres have had their maces & flails aptitude lowered from +3 to -1, to encourage them to consider other weapon types rather than only giant clubs.  While giant weaponry still has the highest base damage of all melee weapons, it will take more training to get them to a usable level of accuracy and attack delay.
  
Large rocks are likewise extremely deadly in the hands of a skilled Ogre, but will start out at 20 aut delay. It requires 26 skill to throw a large rock at min delay (7 auts), or 20 skill to throw one in one turn (10 auts).  Their extremely high damage makes this very worthwhile, but keep an eye on how long the action will take when you are around dangerous enemies.
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*Because of their large [[size]] and inability to wear most armour, ogres can have trouble with defenses. However, ogres can utilize large shields with significantly less skill training than most other species.  
  
Ogres make excellent high durability casters - with only -1 in all spell schools and a strong spellcasting aptitude, they are now the best choice for a caster who wants to have very high healthThe ability to mix brute strength with adequate spellcasting is what sets them apart from trolls, who are generally somewhat better at purely physical builds.
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*Large rocks are  extremely deadly in the hands of a skilled Ogre, but will start out at 20 aut delay.  It requires 26 skill to throw a large rock at min delay (7 auts), or 20 skill to throw one in one turn (10 auts)Their extremely high damage makes this very worthwhile, but keep an eye on how long the action will take when you are around dangerous enemies.
  
===Strategy guides===
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*Ogres make excellent high durability casters - with only -1 in all spell schools and a strong spellcasting aptitude, they are now the best choice for a caster who wants to have very high health.  The ability to mix brute strength with adequate spellcasting is what sets them apart from trolls, who are generally somewhat better at purely physical builds. 
*[[Serfuzz's Ogre Hunter guide]]
 
*[[Davion Fuxa's Ogre guide]]
 
  
 
==History==
 
==History==

Revision as of 06:20, 23 August 2018

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This page is about the player species. For the monster, see Ogre (monster). For a list of all monstrous ogres, see List of ogres.

Ogres are huge, chunky creatures who are very strong and robust, but are not nimble at all. They possess a raw talent for magic, but are poor at making use of magical devices. Ogres mature almost as quickly as Humans.

Their preferred methods of avoiding beatings are dodging and the use of shields, but they can also use armours made from magical hides, since these accommodate their large frames. Ogres are proficient at using all types of melee weapons, yet all sophisticated forms of missile combat are too awkward for them. They are, however, good at throwing things, in particular boulders.

Innate Abilities

Ogres have a base Strength of 11, Intelligence of 9, and Dexterity of 4 (before Background modifiers) and normal base magic points.

Preferred Backgrounds

Level Bonuses

Starting Skills and Equipment

Ogres start with the skills and equipment listed for their background, with the following exceptions:

Difficulty of Play

SimpleIntermediateAdvanced

Ogres enjoy a number of advantages over other species, but have an equal amount of disadvantages. They have an immense amount of HP naturally and train Fighting faster than any other species, but their inability to wear most armour coupled with their large size leaves them with miserable AC and EV in the early game. On the plus side, their offenses become powerful once trained, with access to both giant spiked clubs and large rocks. They also make quite solid spellcasters, being fairly unique in that they are a large, +30% hit point race which is adept at learning magic. They learn all schools equally well, and with high spellcasting aptitude, can easily pick up many lower level spells, or train specific schools at only a very minor (-1) aptitude penalty.

Skill aptitudes

The higher the value, the better the aptitude.

Skill Aptitude Skill Aptitude Skill Aptitude
Attack Miscellaneous Magic
Fighting 3 Armour -2 Spellcasting 1
Dodging -1
Maces & Flails -1 Shields 0 Conjurations -1
Axes 0 Stealth -2 Hexes -1
Polearms 0 Summonings -1
Staves 0 Invocations 1 Necromancy -1
Unarmed Combat -1 Evocations -2 Translocations -1
Throwing 0 Shapeshifting -1 Alchemy -1
Fire Magic -1
Short Blades -1 Ice Magic -1
Long Blades -1 Air Magic -1
Ranged Weapons -3 Experience 0 Earth Magic -1

Strategy

  • As of 0.20, Ogres have had their maces & flails aptitude lowered from +3 to -1, to encourage them to consider other weapon types rather than only giant clubs. While giant weaponry still has the highest base damage of all melee weapons, it will take more training to get them to a usable level of accuracy and attack delay.
  • Because of their large size and inability to wear most armour, ogres can have trouble with defenses. However, ogres can utilize large shields with significantly less skill training than most other species.
  • Large rocks are extremely deadly in the hands of a skilled Ogre, but will start out at 20 aut delay. It requires 26 skill to throw a large rock at min delay (7 auts), or 20 skill to throw one in one turn (10 auts). Their extremely high damage makes this very worthwhile, but keep an eye on how long the action will take when you are around dangerous enemies.
  • Ogres make excellent high durability casters - with only -1 in all spell schools and a strong spellcasting aptitude, they are now the best choice for a caster who wants to have very high health. The ability to mix brute strength with adequate spellcasting is what sets them apart from trolls, who are generally somewhat better at purely physical builds.

History

  • Prior to 0.20, ogres had +3 Maces & Flails aptitude, and were much worse with magic skills. In 0.20 they were reworked to make their weapon choice less of a "no-brainer" and allow easier access to magic skills.
  • Prior to 0.16, ogres started with an extra bread ration. Also, ogre hunters and artificers began with a club instead of a short sword.
  • Prior to 0.15, ogres had Saprovore 1 and Fast Metabolism.
  • Prior to 0.13, ogre hunters and artificers began with a short sword instead of a club.
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