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I wonder if the fire breath is actually a spell or a breath weapon?
 
I wonder if the fire breath is actually a spell or a breath weapon?
:The distinction is blurry and not very meaningful.  Some monsters (including lindwurms and fire dragons) have their breath weapons implemented as a special, non-spell ability, while others (such as iron and golden dragons) have their breath weapons implemented as non-silenceable, "fake" spells.  Antimagic doesn't affect either type: it doesn't affect non-spell abilities, and the "fake spells" tag on casters specifically prevents them from being affected by antimagic.  Honestly it's one of those distinctions that seems like a relic of earlier times; there are a few other such non-spell abilities, like crimson imps' blink and Snorg's berserk.  Personally I wonder why they haven't just been made into spells.
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:The distinction is blurry and not very meaningful.  Some monsters (including lindwurms and fire dragons) have their breath weapons implemented as a special, non-spell ability, while others (such as iron and golden dragons) have their breath weapons implemented as non-silenceable, "fake" spells.  Antimagic doesn't affect either type: it doesn't affect non-spell abilities, and the "fake spells" tag on casters specifically prevents them from being affected by antimagic.  Honestly it's one of those distinctions that seems like a relic of earlier times; there are a few other such spell-duplicating non-spell abilities, like crimson imps' blink and Snorg's berserk.  Personally I wonder why they haven't just been made into spells.
 
:Oh, and you can tell if a monster's breath weapon or what have you is implemented as a spell or not by looking at the wiki page.  If it has the spell template, it's a spell; otherwise, it's an ability.  The bot that compiles monster spells doesn't catch abilities. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate|talk]]) 21:35, 28 March 2014 (CET)
 
:Oh, and you can tell if a monster's breath weapon or what have you is implemented as a spell or not by looking at the wiki page.  If it has the spell template, it's a spell; otherwise, it's an ability.  The bot that compiles monster spells doesn't catch abilities. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate|talk]]) 21:35, 28 March 2014 (CET)

Latest revision as of 21:36, 28 March 2014

I wonder if the fire breath is actually a spell or a breath weapon?

The distinction is blurry and not very meaningful. Some monsters (including lindwurms and fire dragons) have their breath weapons implemented as a special, non-spell ability, while others (such as iron and golden dragons) have their breath weapons implemented as non-silenceable, "fake" spells. Antimagic doesn't affect either type: it doesn't affect non-spell abilities, and the "fake spells" tag on casters specifically prevents them from being affected by antimagic. Honestly it's one of those distinctions that seems like a relic of earlier times; there are a few other such spell-duplicating non-spell abilities, like crimson imps' blink and Snorg's berserk. Personally I wonder why they haven't just been made into spells.
Oh, and you can tell if a monster's breath weapon or what have you is implemented as a spell or not by looking at the wiki page. If it has the spell template, it's a spell; otherwise, it's an ability. The bot that compiles monster spells doesn't catch abilities. -Ion frigate (talk) 21:35, 28 March 2014 (CET)