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Heavy can seem like a good brand on the surface, but it can be ''very'' risky, as it can prevent you from reaching ≤ 1.0 attack delay. Most weapons have a [[minimum delay]] of 0.7. A weapon with delay of 0.7 would now have a delay of 1.05 [[decaAut]]. This represents a 5% chance of a regular speed enemy getting a double-turn of attacks.
 
Heavy can seem like a good brand on the surface, but it can be ''very'' risky, as it can prevent you from reaching ≤ 1.0 attack delay. Most weapons have a [[minimum delay]] of 0.7. A weapon with delay of 0.7 would now have a delay of 1.05 [[decaAut]]. This represents a 5% chance of a regular speed enemy getting a double-turn of attacks.
  
A [[komodo dragon]] can normally hit for up to 45 damage, so with a double-turn, it turns into 90 damage. Many characters heading into [[the Lair]] won't have 90 max HP, others are barely above it. The chance of this actually happening is tiny - the probability of {max roll, getting double turn, max roll again} is extremely low, and [[AC]] / [[EV]] / [[SH]] further reduces that chance. Also, [[guaranteed damage reduction]] will lower max damage against non-spells. Still, attacking above 1.0 delay forces you between two options:
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A [[komodo dragon]] can normally hit for up to 34 damage, so with a double-turn, it turns into 68 damage. The chance of this actually happening is tiny - the probability of {max roll 3 attacks, getting double turn, max roll 3 times again} is incredibly low, and [[AC]] / [[EV]] / [[SH]] further reduces that chance. Also, [[guaranteed damage reduction]] will lower the max damage against non-spells. Still, attacking above 1.0 delay forces you between two options:
*Treat every time you go below ~80 HP vs. a komodo dragon with extreme caution. (Remember that [[Throwing]], [[evocable]]s, etc. let you attack at 1.0 if so desired.)
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*Treat every time you go below ~60 HP vs. a komodo dragon with extreme caution - often forcing consumable use. (Remember that [[Throwing]], [[evocable]]s, etc. let you attack at 1.0 if so desired.)
*Introduce a tiny, but non-zero chance of dying every time you make a swing below ~80 HP vs. a komodo dragon.
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*Introduce a tiny, but non-zero chance of dying every time you make a swing below ~60 HP vs. a komodo dragon.
  
It's important to remember that most dangerous situations in ''Crawl'' involve multiple enemies. Adding a single [[yak]] turns it into max 126 damage. When you consider a whole pack of enemies, things can go sour very quickly. Even if they don't do max damage, a few high damage attacks can end your run, or at least force you to use [[scroll]]s or [[potion]]s. Also note that this applies for almost every 10-speed enemy in the game, not just komodo dragons ([[deep elf annihilator]]s can deal up to 102*2 damage, for instance).
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It's important to remember that most dangerous situations in ''Crawl'' involve multiple enemies. Add a [[yak]] into the picture, and it becomes max 104 damage. When you consider an entire pack of enemies, things can go sour very quickly. Even if they don't do max damage, a few high damage attacks can end your run, or at least force you to use [[scroll]]s or [[potion]]s. Also note that this applies for almost every 10-speed enemy in the game, not just komodo dragons (for instance, [[deep elf annihilator]]s can deal up to 102*2 damage, which can one-shot most characters).
  
 
Weapons that have a minimum delay below 0.7, like [[demon blade]]s, [[demon trident]]s, and all [[Short Blades]], can reach a post-heavy mindelay below 1.0. Though watch out for [[shield]]s, which can bring the delay back up. Also, for weapons that never reach 1.0 delay (e.g. [[hand crossbow]] + any [[shield]]), this point is obviously moot.
 
Weapons that have a minimum delay below 0.7, like [[demon blade]]s, [[demon trident]]s, and all [[Short Blades]], can reach a post-heavy mindelay below 1.0. Though watch out for [[shield]]s, which can bring the delay back up. Also, for weapons that never reach 1.0 delay (e.g. [[hand crossbow]] + any [[shield]]), this point is obviously moot.

Revision as of 10:07, 22 August 2023

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It deals dramatically more damage, but attacks with it are much slower.

Heavy weapons have +80% base damage, but take 50% longer to swing. This results in an average of +20% physical damage. Compared to brands like flaming and freezing, heavy weapons are reduced less by AC, but receive less benefit from slaying and will activate less auxiliary attacks.

The penalty to attack speed is applied after skill, but before the effects of encumbrance (both shield and armour).

Strategy

Heavy offers a slightly weaker damage boost than flaming or freezing, but has the benefit of being irresistible. In an average situation, heavy is competitive with those brands. It has a clear superiority against high AC. Conversely, it is clearly worse for slaying-reliant weapons, like quick blades. Heavy is also poor for species with strong aux attacks, such as Tengu or Vine Stalker.

In addition, heavy weapons are less impacted by shield/armour encumbrance. For example, lets say armour increases attack delay by +0.1 decaAut:

  • A regular weapon would go from 1.0 -> 1.1 delay, or 10% slower.
  • A heavy weapon would go from 1.5 -> 1.6 delay, or 6.25% slower.

However, using heavy on most weapons introduces a serious risk - see below for details.

Risks of >1.0 attack delay

Heavy can seem like a good brand on the surface, but it can be very risky, as it can prevent you from reaching ≤ 1.0 attack delay. Most weapons have a minimum delay of 0.7. A weapon with delay of 0.7 would now have a delay of 1.05 decaAut. This represents a 5% chance of a regular speed enemy getting a double-turn of attacks.

A komodo dragon can normally hit for up to 34 damage, so with a double-turn, it turns into 68 damage. The chance of this actually happening is tiny - the probability of {max roll 3 attacks, getting double turn, max roll 3 times again} is incredibly low, and AC / EV / SH further reduces that chance. Also, guaranteed damage reduction will lower the max damage against non-spells. Still, attacking above 1.0 delay forces you between two options:

  • Treat every time you go below ~60 HP vs. a komodo dragon with extreme caution - often forcing consumable use. (Remember that Throwing, evocables, etc. let you attack at 1.0 if so desired.)
  • Introduce a tiny, but non-zero chance of dying every time you make a swing below ~60 HP vs. a komodo dragon.

It's important to remember that most dangerous situations in Crawl involve multiple enemies. Add a yak into the picture, and it becomes max 104 damage. When you consider an entire pack of enemies, things can go sour very quickly. Even if they don't do max damage, a few high damage attacks can end your run, or at least force you to use scrolls or potions. Also note that this applies for almost every 10-speed enemy in the game, not just komodo dragons (for instance, deep elf annihilators can deal up to 102*2 damage, which can one-shot most characters).

Weapons that have a minimum delay below 0.7, like demon blades, demon tridents, and all Short Blades, can reach a post-heavy mindelay below 1.0. Though watch out for shields, which can bring the delay back up. Also, for weapons that never reach 1.0 delay (e.g. hand crossbow + any shield), this point is obviously moot.

Tips & Tricks

  • Slow actions can be useful in a turn count speedrun. Each attack takes 1 turn, regardless of how long the swing was. If a regular weapon would take 3 turns to kill an enemy, a heavy weapon would take 2.
In addition, swinging an untrained heavy weapon is a better way to skip time than bread swinging. For example, swinging a scroll takes 1.5 decaauts, but it takes 2.1 decaauts to swing a heavy flail when you have 0 Maces & Flails skill.

History

  • In 0.30, this weapon brand was introduced. It replaced the vorpal brand.
Brands
Melee weapons AntimagicChaosDistortionDrainingElectrocutionFlamingFreezingHeavyHoly wrathPainProtectionReachingSpectralSpeedVampiricVenom
DisruptionDragon slayingReapingSilver
Launchers AntimagicDrainingElectrocutionFlamingFreezingHeavyPenetrationSpeed
Throwing weapons AtropaCurareDaturaDispersalPoisonedSilver