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| − | A '''roguelike''' game is a type of role-playing game named after the genre defining [ | + | A '''roguelike''' game is a type of role-playing game named after the genre defining [[wikipedia:Rogue (video game)|''Rogue'']]. Features that are common to all roguelikes include depth, permanent death, and randomization of content. Basically, expect lots of tactical and strategical options, though ''Crawl'' is more condensed than some others. |
==What is a Roguelike?== | ==What is a Roguelike?== | ||
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===Permadeath=== | ===Permadeath=== | ||
| − | ''Crawl'' autosaves often. So barring cheat options like [[explore mode]], once you die, you die. Your save file is erased. Therefore, everything is a legitimate threat to some extent, and this only abates slightly | + | ''Crawl'' autosaves often. So barring cheat options like [[explore mode]], once you die, you die. Your save file is erased. Therefore, everything is a legitimate threat to some extent, and this only abates slightly as you progress. Things can kill you if you're not careful, even things you wouldn't normally consider dangerous. And yes, you will often die in horrible, random, arbitrary ways. Have fun starting over. Roguelikes are not easy. |
===No Meta Progression=== | ===No Meta Progression=== | ||
| − | ''Crawl'' features 'true' permadeath. Nothing tangible carries over between games - you don't unlock new characters, items, or perks, and nothing from your past game influences your next game. Although [[player ghost]]s are based on previous games, | + | ''Crawl'' features 'true' permadeath. Nothing tangible carries over between games - you don't unlock new characters, items, or perks, and nothing* from your past game influences your next game. The thing that gets better is ''you'', the player, and perhaps a bit of luck. |
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| + | :*<nowiki>*</nowiki> Although [[player ghost]]s are based on previous games, the ghost doesn't transfer loot based on a previous game, it just serves as a challenge. Plus, in an online server, you're just as likely to find another player's ghost. Even on a fresh offline install, there exists a large selection of ghosts (from Stone Soup [[0.22]] onwards). | ||
===Relevant Random Content=== | ===Relevant Random Content=== | ||
| − | While you'll likely encounter the same types of monsters in similar locations, where, when, and if at all are incredibly relevant details. An [[ogre (monster)|ogre]] on D:3 is much scarier than the same ogre just two floors later. What items you get, what [[god]]s appear early | + | While you'll likely encounter the same types of monsters in similar locations, where, when, and if at all are incredibly relevant details. An [[ogre (monster)|ogre]] on D:3 is much scarier than the same ogre just two floors later. What items you get, what [[god]]s appear early on, even which [[branch]]es appear, are random. The dungeon layout is for the most part randomly generated, and even the non-random, handmade [[vault]]s are randomly chosen and placed. This hopefully makes a roguelike addictive, not repetitive or tiresome. |
==Grand Tradition of Roguelikes== | ==Grand Tradition of Roguelikes== | ||
| − | While not a strict requirement, ''Crawl'' follows the grand tradition of roguelikes by being a top down, tile based, turn based... dungeon crawler, being what | + | While not a strict requirement, ''Crawl'' follows the grand tradition of roguelikes by being a top down, tile based, turn based... dungeon crawler, being what computers during ''Rogue'''s creation could handle. This is in stark contrast to many more modern roguelikes (traditionally called ''roguelites''), which have a wide variety of gameplay genres. Limitation breeds ingenuity, so while the format has some flaws (see [[pillar dancing]], luring...), the ASCII gameplay loop is still exciting to play. |
===Characters=== | ===Characters=== | ||
| − | Most CRPGs, including most roguelikes, have roots from D&D's style of character creation. Characters in ''Crawl'' have [[AC]], or armor class (though it reduces damage | + | Most CRPGs, including most roguelikes, have roots from D&D's style of character creation. Characters in ''Crawl'' have [[AC]], or armor class (though it only reduces damage; [[EV]]/evasion and [[SH]]/shield outright stop attacks), three [[attributes]] ([[STR]], [[INT]], [[DEX]]), and a host of high fantasy [[weapon]]s and [[spell]]s. ''Crawl'' is a more distant relative, but the similarities are still present. |
''Crawl'' also features [[27]] different [[species]] to play, which helps a lot with replayability. A [[Human]] might be the perfectly plain experience, but there's a wide variety of races: from [[Minotaur]]s and [[Troll]]s to gimmicky species like the 8-armed, 8-[[ring]]ed, [[Octopode]], who simply won't fit into most [[armour]]. Each species might be better with certain items, but the RNG could always favor something outside your plans. | ''Crawl'' also features [[27]] different [[species]] to play, which helps a lot with replayability. A [[Human]] might be the perfectly plain experience, but there's a wide variety of races: from [[Minotaur]]s and [[Troll]]s to gimmicky species like the 8-armed, 8-[[ring]]ed, [[Octopode]], who simply won't fit into most [[armour]]. Each species might be better with certain items, but the RNG could always favor something outside your plans. | ||
===Non-existent plot=== | ===Non-existent plot=== | ||
| − | With a few exceptions (such as [ | + | With a few exceptions (such as [[wikipedia:ADOM|''ADOM'']]), a classical roguelike's plot consists of the following: go down into a randomly generated dungeon, reach the final level, and either kill the boss or, more commonly, grab an item and escape. Why do this? Well, in [[wikipedia:NetHack|''NetHack'']], you want to get the Amulet for your god. In ''Crawl'', you want the [[Orb of Zot]] for absolutely no defined reason. [[Xom]] could tell you, but then it'd have to kill you. Other than getting [[rune]]s and the Orb, or unlocking treasure [[trove]]s, there are no quests. Other than a [[shop]] (a glorified menu), there are no dedicated NPCs. |
==Dungeon Crawl compared to other roguelikes== | ==Dungeon Crawl compared to other roguelikes== | ||
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===Post-Spoiler Era=== | ===Post-Spoiler Era=== | ||
| − | ''Crawl'' seems easier, at first glance, but it's not. It is, however, friendlier. At least in DCSS, there are no real [[instadeath]]s. If something kills you, it'll probably be something you at least half-expected: an [[out-of-depth]] monster at an early level, rather than a necklace you put on happening to be an amulet of strangulation. | + | ''Crawl'' seems easier, at first glance, but it's not. It is, however, friendlier. At least in DCSS, there are no real [[instadeath]]s. If something kills you, it'll probably be something you at least half-expected: an [[out-of-depth]] monster at an early level, rather than a necklace you put on happening to be an amulet of strangulation. As of [[0.30]], the only way to die is to run out of HP. |
| − | ''Stone Soup'' not only has a [[tutorial]] and an in-depth manual, but provides extensive information of any monster, item, or other noun you may come across. You can access them all by right clicking their tile (or '''x''' then '''v''' with keyboard controls), or using '''? /''' followed by what you want to search for. The goal is that, unlike | + | ''Stone Soup'' not only has a [[tutorial]] and an in-depth manual, but provides extensive information of any monster, item, or other noun you may come across. You can access them all by right clicking their tile (or '''x''' then '''v''' with keyboard controls), or using '''? /''' followed by what you want to search for. The goal is that, unlike earlier roguelikes, ''Stone Soup'' should be playable without the aid of a guide or wiki. |
===Crusade against Tedium=== | ===Crusade against Tedium=== | ||
| − | The DevTeam of '' | + | The DevTeam of ''Stone Soup'' aims to remove 'tedious' mechanics from the game. For a player with knowledge of the game's spoilers, certain mechanics can serve to waste their time and energy. For example, players in ''NetHack'' (3.4.3) are heavily encouraged to go through Sokoban every game, a puzzle branch with 8 fixed layouts. With solutions easily available outside of the game, the branch gives good rewards: food that can last the entire game, along with helpful guaranteed end loot. ''Stone Soup'' has removed their own (completely random) puzzle branch, the [[Labyrinth]], in [[0.23]]. Meanwhile, [[food]] was continuously targeted by devs, with multiple simplifications and eventual removal. The Labyrinth could be solved with just a few rations, while food itself was mostly just a clock that required opening a menu every few minutes. |
| − | In the same vein, DCSS also tries to remove 'no-brainers', or completely dominant items/strategies. Balance is not perfect, and not even intentional. For example, species is used as a difficulty slider: a [[Mummy]] is much harder to play than a [[Minotaur]]. Yet ''Crawl'' | + | In the same vein, DCSS also tries to remove 'no-brainers', or completely dominant items/strategies. Balance is not perfect, and not even intentional. For example, species is used as a difficulty slider: a [[Mummy]] is much harder to play than a [[Minotaur]]. Yet ''Crawl'' as a whole is relatively balanced; a single player game has much more leeway with the notion of 'balance', after all. |
| − | On the other hand, ''Stone Soup'' is notorious for its countless removals - regardless of how beloved a feature is. The [[Mountain Dwarf]] was a seemingly benign species, but it was [http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/whisper-farewell-when-you-leave-gimli removed for being too similar] to [[Hill Orc]] and [[Minotaur]] - all 3 were melee and armour focused races. While it would be easy to just not play MD, the | + | On the other hand, ''Stone Soup'' is notorious for its countless removals - regardless of how beloved a feature is. The [[Mountain Dwarf]] was a seemingly benign species, but it was [http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/whisper-farewell-when-you-leave-gimli removed for being too similar] to [[Hill Orc]] and [[Minotaur]] - all 3 were melee and armour focused races. While it would be easy to just not play MD, the developers has decided that the 'fake choice' presented by having similar species hurts the game. In other words, MD existing would detract from "every species feeling distinct or unique". Their removal, as the biggest example, has created a DevTeam and community accepting of dramatic change. But as a free and open source game, you could always play an old version, or one of ''Crawl'''s many [[variants]]. (Though, sacrificing any future changes you may have enjoyed can still be disappointing). |
===Difference in Character Building=== | ===Difference in Character Building=== | ||
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==See Also== | ==See Also== | ||
| − | *Wikipedia on [ | + | *Wikipedia on [[wikipedia:Roguelike|Roguelike]] |
[[Category:Crawl]] | [[Category:Crawl]] | ||
Latest revision as of 11:15, 16 January 2024
A roguelike game is a type of role-playing game named after the genre defining Rogue. Features that are common to all roguelikes include depth, permanent death, and randomization of content. Basically, expect lots of tactical and strategical options, though Crawl is more condensed than some others.
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What is a Roguelike?
Roguelikes, at their core, are games with permanent death and randomly generated content.
Permadeath
Crawl autosaves often. So barring cheat options like explore mode, once you die, you die. Your save file is erased. Therefore, everything is a legitimate threat to some extent, and this only abates slightly as you progress. Things can kill you if you're not careful, even things you wouldn't normally consider dangerous. And yes, you will often die in horrible, random, arbitrary ways. Have fun starting over. Roguelikes are not easy.
No Meta Progression
Crawl features 'true' permadeath. Nothing tangible carries over between games - you don't unlock new characters, items, or perks, and nothing* from your past game influences your next game. The thing that gets better is you, the player, and perhaps a bit of luck.
- * Although player ghosts are based on previous games, the ghost doesn't transfer loot based on a previous game, it just serves as a challenge. Plus, in an online server, you're just as likely to find another player's ghost. Even on a fresh offline install, there exists a large selection of ghosts (from Stone Soup 0.22 onwards).
Relevant Random Content
While you'll likely encounter the same types of monsters in similar locations, where, when, and if at all are incredibly relevant details. An ogre on D:3 is much scarier than the same ogre just two floors later. What items you get, what gods appear early on, even which branches appear, are random. The dungeon layout is for the most part randomly generated, and even the non-random, handmade vaults are randomly chosen and placed. This hopefully makes a roguelike addictive, not repetitive or tiresome.
Grand Tradition of Roguelikes
While not a strict requirement, Crawl follows the grand tradition of roguelikes by being a top down, tile based, turn based... dungeon crawler, being what computers during Rogue's creation could handle. This is in stark contrast to many more modern roguelikes (traditionally called roguelites), which have a wide variety of gameplay genres. Limitation breeds ingenuity, so while the format has some flaws (see pillar dancing, luring...), the ASCII gameplay loop is still exciting to play.
Characters
Most CRPGs, including most roguelikes, have roots from D&D's style of character creation. Characters in Crawl have AC, or armor class (though it only reduces damage; EV/evasion and SH/shield outright stop attacks), three attributes (STR, INT, DEX), and a host of high fantasy weapons and spells. Crawl is a more distant relative, but the similarities are still present.
Crawl also features 27 different species to play, which helps a lot with replayability. A Human might be the perfectly plain experience, but there's a wide variety of races: from Minotaurs and Trolls to gimmicky species like the 8-armed, 8-ringed, Octopode, who simply won't fit into most armour. Each species might be better with certain items, but the RNG could always favor something outside your plans.
Non-existent plot
With a few exceptions (such as ADOM), a classical roguelike's plot consists of the following: go down into a randomly generated dungeon, reach the final level, and either kill the boss or, more commonly, grab an item and escape. Why do this? Well, in NetHack, you want to get the Amulet for your god. In Crawl, you want the Orb of Zot for absolutely no defined reason. Xom could tell you, but then it'd have to kill you. Other than getting runes and the Orb, or unlocking treasure troves, there are no quests. Other than a shop (a glorified menu), there are no dedicated NPCs.
Dungeon Crawl compared to other roguelikes
Crawl (specifically, Stone Soup) defines itself from its contemporaries with a strong set of design philosophies.
Post-Spoiler Era
Crawl seems easier, at first glance, but it's not. It is, however, friendlier. At least in DCSS, there are no real instadeaths. If something kills you, it'll probably be something you at least half-expected: an out-of-depth monster at an early level, rather than a necklace you put on happening to be an amulet of strangulation. As of 0.30, the only way to die is to run out of HP.
Stone Soup not only has a tutorial and an in-depth manual, but provides extensive information of any monster, item, or other noun you may come across. You can access them all by right clicking their tile (or x then v with keyboard controls), or using ? / followed by what you want to search for. The goal is that, unlike earlier roguelikes, Stone Soup should be playable without the aid of a guide or wiki.
Crusade against Tedium
The DevTeam of Stone Soup aims to remove 'tedious' mechanics from the game. For a player with knowledge of the game's spoilers, certain mechanics can serve to waste their time and energy. For example, players in NetHack (3.4.3) are heavily encouraged to go through Sokoban every game, a puzzle branch with 8 fixed layouts. With solutions easily available outside of the game, the branch gives good rewards: food that can last the entire game, along with helpful guaranteed end loot. Stone Soup has removed their own (completely random) puzzle branch, the Labyrinth, in 0.23. Meanwhile, food was continuously targeted by devs, with multiple simplifications and eventual removal. The Labyrinth could be solved with just a few rations, while food itself was mostly just a clock that required opening a menu every few minutes.
In the same vein, DCSS also tries to remove 'no-brainers', or completely dominant items/strategies. Balance is not perfect, and not even intentional. For example, species is used as a difficulty slider: a Mummy is much harder to play than a Minotaur. Yet Crawl as a whole is relatively balanced; a single player game has much more leeway with the notion of 'balance', after all.
On the other hand, Stone Soup is notorious for its countless removals - regardless of how beloved a feature is. The Mountain Dwarf was a seemingly benign species, but it was removed for being too similar to Hill Orc and Minotaur - all 3 were melee and armour focused races. While it would be easy to just not play MD, the developers has decided that the 'fake choice' presented by having similar species hurts the game. In other words, MD existing would detract from "every species feeling distinct or unique". Their removal, as the biggest example, has created a DevTeam and community accepting of dramatic change. But as a free and open source game, you could always play an old version, or one of Crawl's many variants. (Though, sacrificing any future changes you may have enjoyed can still be disappointing).
Difference in Character Building
Compared to other classical roguelikes, and many CRPGs in general, Crawl places little importance on class (Crawl's backgrounds). There are no special, permanent rules for them. Skills, trained in game, are what really determine your character's specialties.
Gods are another character defining aspect of your character, also picked during the game (for the most part). Adventuring with one of 26 unique gods will earn you piety, with a large variety of special abilities and perks. Almost all gods will get angry if you leave them, so characters completing a regular game will most likely stick to just one.
See Also
- Wikipedia on Roguelike
