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The [[Throwing]] skill denotes how accurate and powerful your character is with thrown weapons. | The [[Throwing]] skill denotes how accurate and powerful your character is with thrown weapons. | ||
| − | Throwing weapons benefit more from [[skill]] than other weapons. Like [[Unarmed Combat]], throwing weapons deal <code>(weapon base damage) + (Throwing skill)</code> base damage due to skill | + | {{skill_aptitudes}} |
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| + | ==Useful Info== | ||
| + | Throwing weapons benefit more from [[skill]] than other weapons. Like [[Unarmed Combat]], throwing weapons deal <code>(weapon base damage) + (Throwing skill)</code> base damage due to skill (as opposed to the usual +2% bonus for regular weapon skills). For example, 10 Throwing would double the base damage of a [[javelin]] (10+10), but the equivalent skill would only increase other weapons by 20%. Note that [[stone]]s get half the usual bonus. | ||
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| + | Throwing weapons are of limited quantity. All throwing implements have a chance to [[mulch]] - i.e., be destroyed - when thrown. When this happens, boomerangs, javelins, and large rocks will deal +33% damage. Javelins that mulch will not penetrate. | ||
| − | + | Unlike proper [[Ranged Weapons]], Throwing is ''not'' affected by [[armour encumbrance]]. | |
| − | ==Weapons== | + | ==List of Throwing Weapons== |
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| − | + | {|class="wikitable" | |
| − | + | ! Name !! Dam !! Delay !! Minimum Delay !! Size !! Mulch % | |
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| − | + | | [[Dart]] || None || 10 || 7 (6 skill) || Any || 8.33% | |
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| − | + | | [[Throwing net]] || None || 10 || 7 (6 skill) || Any || Special | |
| + | |- | ||
| + | | [[Stone]] || 2 || 11 || 7 (8 skill) || Any || 100% | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | [[Boomerang]] || 6 || 13 || 7 (10 skill) || Any || 5% | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | [[Javelin]] || 10 || 15 || 7 (16 skill) || Medium+ || 5% | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | | [[Large rock]] || 20 || 20 || 7 (26 skill) || Large || 4% | ||
| + | |} | ||
Anything not listed above can still be thrown, but it is usually useless to do so, as it will do no damage. | Anything not listed above can still be thrown, but it is usually useless to do so, as it will do no damage. | ||
==Strategy== | ==Strategy== | ||
| − | Throwing is closer to [[Evocations]] than a traditional weapon skill. | + | Throwing is closer to [[Evocations]] than a traditional weapon skill. Since ammunition is so limited, you cannot use Throwing weapons for every fight. However, it can be a very powerful support tool. |
| − | [[Javelin]]s are a key | + | [[Javelin]]s are a key part of any Throwing specialist's arsenal. Javelins [[penetration|penetrate]] through enemies: they can hit enemies in the backlines, and/or hit multiple enemies at 100% damage. At high skill, javelins can deal massive damage to multiple enemies at once, at full [[LOS]] range. More stealthy characters can also appreciate [[dart]]s for their debuff effects. |
| − | Even | + | Even if you have 0 skill, certain items are worth throwing: |
| + | *In the very early game, throwing anything - [[stone]]s, [[boomerang]]s, [[poison]] [[dart]]s - is better than nothing if you have no ranged attack. | ||
| + | *[[Throwing net]]s, [[poison]] [[dart]]s, and [[curare]] darts offer useful effects, but benefit little from the actual Throwing skill, meaning not much skill is required to be effective. In particular, nets prevent enemies from moving and make them vulnerable to [[stab]]s, and [[curare]] slows enemies. It can still be worth training a few levels to increase accuracy and throw speed, but it's not 100% required. | ||
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| + | Throwing implements are more common in [[Shoals]] than [[Swamp]]. If the former branch is in your game, you may want to focus a little more on Throwing. | ||
===Tips & Tricks=== | ===Tips & Tricks=== | ||
| − | * [[Large]] species are able to throw [[large rock]]s, which are both plentiful and high damage (20 base damage). They have a much greater reason to train Throwing than the regular-size species. | + | *Javelins can get the [[silver]] brand, which is highly effective against [[chaotic]] enemies (including [[malmutate]]rs, [[the Royal Jelly]], and [[orbs of fire]]). |
| − | * | + | *[[Large]] species ([[Troll]]s and [[Oni]]) are able to throw [[large rock]]s, which are both plentiful and high damage (20 base damage). They have a much greater reason to train Throwing than the regular-size species. |
| + | *Even mage characters will often benefit from throwing in the early dungeon. When attacking sleeping monsters, a hit is almost guaranteed even without any skill in throwing. Therefore, dealing the first ranged hit with a throwing (or ranged) weapon instead of a spell is a useful way to conserve mana. Still, because throwing damage relies on [[strength]], investing a lot of skill as a caster is a weaker choice. | ||
==History== | ==History== | ||
| − | * | + | *Prior to [[0.30]], there was no +33% damage bonus when ammo mulched. |
*Prior to [[0.29]], Throwing [[crosstrain]]ed with [[Slings (skill)]]. Also, [[Hunter]]s and [[Arcane Marksmen]] could start with throwables. | *Prior to [[0.29]], Throwing [[crosstrain]]ed with [[Slings (skill)]]. Also, [[Hunter]]s and [[Arcane Marksmen]] could start with throwables. | ||
| − | * | + | *Prior to [[0.28]], monsters carried significantly more throwing weapons, and throwing weapons were slightly more likely to generate on the floor. |
| − | * | + | *Prior to [[0.27]], monsters consumed throwing ammunition. You could pick up throwing weapons that monsters used, and monsters could mulch them. |
| − | * | + | *Prior to [[0.24]], there were more [[brand]]s for throwing ammunition. Javelins did not penetrate enemies without the [[penetration]] brand. |
| − | * | + | *Prior to [[0.18]], throwing speed worked differently from other weapons. Throwing weapons had a mindelay of 0.5, and were overall faster to throw, but skill had less of an impact on throw speed. |
| − | * | + | *Prior to [[0.17]], throwing speed was penalized by [[armour encumbrance]]. |
| − | * | + | *Prior to [[0.15]], ranged & throwing combat was significantly different. In general, Throwing was less viable. |
| − | * | + | *Prior to [[0.8]], [[Evaporate]] used the Throwing skill. |
| − | * | + | |
| − | * | + | '''Added Weapons''' |
| + | *[[0.24]] - [[Boomerang]]s, [[dart]]s | ||
| + | *[[0.14]] - [[Tomahawk]]s | ||
| + | *[[0.3]] - Javelins, throwing nets | ||
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| + | '''Removed weapons''' | ||
| + | *[[0.24]] - [[Blowgun]]s & [[needle]]s, [[tomahawk]]s | ||
| + | *[[0.15]] - [[Dart]]s | ||
| + | *[[0.14]] - [[Spear]]s, [[dagger]]s, [[club]]s, [[hand axe]]s (which can no longer be thrown) | ||
{{Skills}} | {{Skills}} | ||
[[category:Throwing]] | [[category:Throwing]] | ||
[[Category:Weapon skills]] | [[Category:Weapon skills]] | ||
Latest revision as of 19:06, 17 November 2025
The Throwing skill denotes how accurate and powerful your character is with thrown weapons.
Contents
Aptitudes
| At | Ba | Co | DE | Dg | Ds | Dj | Dr | Fe | Fo | Gr | Gn | Hu | Ko | Mf | Mi | MD | Mu | Na | Op | On | Po | Re | Sp | Te | Tr | VS |
| -1 | 0 | -1 | 0 | -1 | -1 | -2 | -1 | N/A | 0 | -1 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | -2 | -2 | -1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | -1 | 0 | 0 | -1 | -1 |
Useful Info
Throwing weapons benefit more from skill than other weapons. Like Unarmed Combat, throwing weapons deal (weapon base damage) + (Throwing skill) base damage due to skill (as opposed to the usual +2% bonus for regular weapon skills). For example, 10 Throwing would double the base damage of a javelin (10+10), but the equivalent skill would only increase other weapons by 20%. Note that stones get half the usual bonus.
Throwing weapons are of limited quantity. All throwing implements have a chance to mulch - i.e., be destroyed - when thrown. When this happens, boomerangs, javelins, and large rocks will deal +33% damage. Javelins that mulch will not penetrate.
Unlike proper Ranged Weapons, Throwing is not affected by armour encumbrance.
List of Throwing Weapons
| Name | Dam | Delay | Minimum Delay | Size | Mulch % |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dart | None | 10 | 7 (6 skill) | Any | 8.33% |
| Throwing net | None | 10 | 7 (6 skill) | Any | Special |
| Stone | 2 | 11 | 7 (8 skill) | Any | 100% |
| Boomerang | 6 | 13 | 7 (10 skill) | Any | 5% |
| Javelin | 10 | 15 | 7 (16 skill) | Medium+ | 5% |
| Large rock | 20 | 20 | 7 (26 skill) | Large | 4% |
Anything not listed above can still be thrown, but it is usually useless to do so, as it will do no damage.
Strategy
Throwing is closer to Evocations than a traditional weapon skill. Since ammunition is so limited, you cannot use Throwing weapons for every fight. However, it can be a very powerful support tool.
Javelins are a key part of any Throwing specialist's arsenal. Javelins penetrate through enemies: they can hit enemies in the backlines, and/or hit multiple enemies at 100% damage. At high skill, javelins can deal massive damage to multiple enemies at once, at full LOS range. More stealthy characters can also appreciate darts for their debuff effects.
Even if you have 0 skill, certain items are worth throwing:
- In the very early game, throwing anything - stones, boomerangs, poison darts - is better than nothing if you have no ranged attack.
- Throwing nets, poison darts, and curare darts offer useful effects, but benefit little from the actual Throwing skill, meaning not much skill is required to be effective. In particular, nets prevent enemies from moving and make them vulnerable to stabs, and curare slows enemies. It can still be worth training a few levels to increase accuracy and throw speed, but it's not 100% required.
Throwing implements are more common in Shoals than Swamp. If the former branch is in your game, you may want to focus a little more on Throwing.
Tips & Tricks
- Javelins can get the silver brand, which is highly effective against chaotic enemies (including malmutaters, the Royal Jelly, and orbs of fire).
- Large species (Trolls and Oni) are able to throw large rocks, which are both plentiful and high damage (20 base damage). They have a much greater reason to train Throwing than the regular-size species.
- Even mage characters will often benefit from throwing in the early dungeon. When attacking sleeping monsters, a hit is almost guaranteed even without any skill in throwing. Therefore, dealing the first ranged hit with a throwing (or ranged) weapon instead of a spell is a useful way to conserve mana. Still, because throwing damage relies on strength, investing a lot of skill as a caster is a weaker choice.
History
- Prior to 0.30, there was no +33% damage bonus when ammo mulched.
- Prior to 0.29, Throwing crosstrained with Slings (skill). Also, Hunters and Arcane Marksmen could start with throwables.
- Prior to 0.28, monsters carried significantly more throwing weapons, and throwing weapons were slightly more likely to generate on the floor.
- Prior to 0.27, monsters consumed throwing ammunition. You could pick up throwing weapons that monsters used, and monsters could mulch them.
- Prior to 0.24, there were more brands for throwing ammunition. Javelins did not penetrate enemies without the penetration brand.
- Prior to 0.18, throwing speed worked differently from other weapons. Throwing weapons had a mindelay of 0.5, and were overall faster to throw, but skill had less of an impact on throw speed.
- Prior to 0.17, throwing speed was penalized by armour encumbrance.
- Prior to 0.15, ranged & throwing combat was significantly different. In general, Throwing was less viable.
- Prior to 0.8, Evaporate used the Throwing skill.
Added Weapons
Removed weapons
- 0.24 - Blowguns & needles, tomahawks
- 0.15 - Darts
- 0.14 - Spears, daggers, clubs, hand axes (which can no longer be thrown)
| Skills | |
|---|---|
| Weapons | Short Blades • Long Blades • Ranged Weapons
Axes • Maces & Flails • Polearms • Staves • Unarmed Combat • Throwing |
| Physical | Fighting • Armour • Dodging • Stealth • Shields |
| Magical | Spellcasting • Invocations • Evocations • Shapeshifting |
| Spell Schools | Air • Alchemy • Conjurations • Earth • Fire • Forgecraft • Hexes • Ice • Necromancy • Summoning • Translocations |